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This post isn't remotely accurate.WiDDoW_MaKeR said:
Not familiar with your legal work, here or outside the board. Would love to read more than just snarky pot shots.
Umm, no clue what you are talking about. Do you somehow think I like the Cowboys? Or that this - Goodell being a train wreck - is a surprise to me now?espnespn said:I seem to remember a player recently got suspended because an "independent report" (that was edited by the NFL before actually being released, and the NFL refused to say what they changed) said that player was "generally aware" of some equipment violation.
But all the Salty Haters were overjoyed that Brady got railroaded by Goodell. Now the same thing is probably going to happen to your favorite team, and I can't stop laughing. I think the Cowboys should also lose some draft picks because Jerry Jones was at least "generally aware" of Zeke's shenanigans.
http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2015/08/19/judge-berman-takes-aim-at-brady-being-generally-aware-in-wednesdays-hearing/
"Tom Curran of CSN New England reports that Berman “nodded vigorously” when NFLPA lawyer Jeffrey Kessler said that “player policies say you can’t be punished for being ‘generally aware,'” and that the judge later said that “general awareness” does not “relate to the Jan. 18 [AFC Championship] game.”
Daniel Kaplan of SportsBusiness Journal adds that Berman called it a “quantum leap” to go from Brady being “generally aware” of ball deflation to NFL Commissioner Roger Goodell’s reference to a “scheme” in his ruling on Brady’s suspension appeal."
Easy people. Not a noob with 140 posts, been here for years. I thought I would finally start posting this year, I enjoy the banter in these threads. As far as contributing "less than zero"...again, take it easy. I would agree that my post was in no way contributing anything to this thread. I probably should have just said that there are so many opinions, by experts and non experts, that this topic is getting grating. And so far, nobody is right or wrong...this situation is just totally stupid.
Hopefully the NFLPA lawyers didn't graduate from the The Rocco Clubbo School of Typewriter Maintenance.
Was just coming to post that. 2:15 EST - This ruling likely is Zeke's last chance from what I'm reading, as the 5th circuit en-banc? is out of the question now that he's choosing the NY path? Not sure if I'm right or interpreting the lingo correctly.
Motion to recall mandate was denied but en banc review is still on the table but odds are against it.
But here's the thing, what domestic violence? I know that there was a police investigation, and this investigation took place as a result. But I haven't seen anywhere where it explained what actually/allegedly happened. The only thing I've seen is "multiple accounts of violence during he week of...". But what did he do, exactly?
I actually agree with JIMGET here. Wallach’s blown sunshine for Zeke the entire time, getting our FF hopes up. He’s like Zeke’s Fake News arm. At some points acting like NFL didn’t have a leg to stand on, but all I’ve seen of him is a swing-and-miss takes on how the case would go.
He's not the only one, I've seen half the "legal experts" taking Zeke's side and half not. At least he's giving up info and reasoning, and one of the few whose trying to make sense of document after document. CBS also has a few legal experts that are pro Zeke winning as well. We are only posting the half that think Zeke could win as some in here are curious about his chances for this year.
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... how does he think he can win this? This was basically thrown out already, so you just change venue and play musical chairs? I initially thought he requested an en banc hearing.
He actually won his first bid for a TRO. However, it was vacated based on jurisdictional issues. The same arguments he used to secure his first TRO should be good for the second try as well. However, this is a different judge who has guidance from the 2nd Court of Appeals (Brady decision) and the 2 judges who have already sided with Zeke based on "fundamental fairness". Attorneys who like his chances put them at better than 50%. Some as high as 75% so I think its worth his time to try.
How do they manage to get the courts to act so quickly in these NFL matters? NYC courts are generally so backed up.
It is definitely worth his time to try for a TRO. Although, financially speaking, if he is able to put the suspension off until next year, 6 games of his 2018 salary will cost him more than 6 games of his 2017 salary.
Nothing special about the NFL. Courts usually try to schedule hearings for injunctive relief fairly quickly.
He wont the first injunction, from what I gather it was thrown out because he filed prematurely without exploring all avenues of appeal first?
well yes that's the whole point of a TRO - but was speaking more generally with this and Brady.
This is summed up pretty well. Fingers crossed for us Zeke owners who could use him this year.
In this case it was an emergency hearing. To get one your case needs to meet certain criteria. Not sure about the exact list of criteria but I am assuming certain dollar amounts must be involved or certain parties needing immediate relief in a labor dispute.
That's another thing. I had my cell phone taken away for texting in court and had to pay a $25 fine to get it back - why are these jerks allowed to live tweet.
This is how I see it playing out too. Hope that Goodell gets some form of punishment down the road - in this life or another.
Zeke was never even arrested. The police don't have to worry about whether they will be able to find him guilty beyond a reasonable doubt in court in order to arrest him. They responded to the seen, they were given her account of what happened. Her own friend was able to prove that she was lying.... as she had just sent her a text asking her to lie about what happened when the police came.
The money involved should be irrelevant. The question is usually how quickly does the Court need to act to prevent harm that cannot be reversed and, to some extent, how quickly did you act in bringing it to the Court's attention. And it may be impacted by how long the other side wants/needs to be able to respond. So something could be filed on Monday but the other side will ask for a day to file a brief, submit a certification, or even just travel to be able to appear in Court.
Nothing you just said supports a conclusion that Elliott is not guilty of domestic violence. Only that the legal standard of guilty beyond a reasonable doubt cannot be met.
Inconsistent information means that the accusers story wasn't backed by the evidence. Which is a polite way of saying that she wasn't telling the truth. Elliot's information certainly wouldn't matter, because he is the one being accused. All that they would need is for her story to be backed up by the evidence. Clearly, it wasn't. Especially since she clearly asked one of her friends to lie to the police when they showed up, and her friend turned that evidence over to the police.
Yeah, and nothing that you can say would prove that you also aren't guilty of domestic violence. What's your point?
Correct, but the NFL has slandered him by sending out a letter for the entire world to see that states that he beat that girl.
Which was the point of my original post. lol.... We aren't currently in a discussion about the NFL personal conduct policy. We are talking about the actual domestic violence accusation.
You can go back to my first reply to you to see my point: you're wrong to suggest no charges filed = not guilty.
