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He's a buy right now, but he could also land in a situation where it's a bad team, bad qb, or both.
Bad QB, bad offense, or both would be my only concern. Juju seems like a decent talent, but he does need to land in an average or above average situation to be a difference maker. Not sure you could put him in Detroit and expect anything more than 30 other wideouts can provide.JohnnyU said:
KC would be a great landing spot obviously. They really don't have a WR2 in my mind. Hardman isn't it.
Or maybe he realizes that he’s not going to get a better offer from another team, which somehow I doubt.
Agreed, but it almost feels like he doesn't want to be a FA coming out of last offseason, and the results. I would have thought him to be on the other end of the 'prima donna WR' spectrum than he's been. Seems like he's just Mr. "here, there, money, contract, situation.... whatever."
As much as many folks like to bash him, maybe he just likes Pittsburgh and his teammates, and isn't motivated by money
Don't get me wrong, not intending to bash at all. It's admirable. It's also frustrating as a FF owner to own a young, talented WR who is selfless - or maybe not as self interested.As much as many folks like to bash him, maybe he just likes Pittsburgh and his teammates, and isn't motivated by money
I've seen others with this perspective. I don't agree with it. Guys don't get 111 receptions for 1400 yards because of someone else. JMHO, there's a lot better explanations for JJSS stats slipping post AB (though he did have 97 receptions in 2019), and Ben Roethlisburger aging quickly is at the top of the list for me.
I think it’s a bit of recency bias. While he may have peaked already, I think he’s being undervalued these days.
Oh, it's totally recency bias, perceived as validating concerns raised when AB left. He's struggled with injuries, and had a maddening 1/3 share as Roethlisberger's arm slowly turned into a noodle, and an offense trending toward run first as a consequence. Regardless of whether he's labeled a WR1/WR2, he's a guy who proved he's capable of 100 receptions. I don't buy he needs Uberstar WR on the other end of the formation to do it. He just needs the right offense, the right QB, and a desire to be there.
It wasn't just that. AB's departure, lack of a running game/bad offensive line, injuries and horrible offensive play calling were all factors in JuJu's decline in production as well as Ben's aging.
Totally agree, that’s why I said list and forgot to include OL issues you mention in my next post. Main point was I don’t view JJSS as some guy who requires a WR1 to be good.
Got a lot of blowback for this take when I called it last year when many were predicting upside of his 1,400-yard season thinking he was a legit top WR.
Fair points - many #2 WRs thrive when they have a dominant WR alongside them to take away pressure. Only a few have proven to thrive even if they're the only game in town (e.g., Adams, Hopkins, Evans (pre-Godwin), Thomas).
Had a look at PFF data. This year was obviously a wash, but in 2020 he ranked 194th out of 200 WRs in terms of average depth per target (ADOT). In 2019 and 2018 (the latter being his monster year) he was in the 150s, and in his rookie year of 2017 he was 129th. So yes, he's always been more of a slot/underneath guy.
Did he run mostly the same type of routes in college? If not, then why did they change him?
I didn't really follow him in college, so others may have a better view on this. Perhaps with Brown already in the fold, JuJu might have filled a more complementary role as a slot guy and just excelled there.
Yeah. What other names are out there? Minshew? Huntley? Is Cousins a possibility? Garoppolo I guess.
No I don't. I'd like to see it but often don't get what I want. I think the additions to the QB room will be through the draft instead of bringing in a third vet to compete with Haskins and Rudolph. I don't know a fellow Steeler fan who likes it, but Rudolph should be the heavy odds on favorite to at least open the season.
Bad year to be drafting a QB IMO. Even the so called top QBs like Corral. Pickett, Willis, Howell, Ridder aren't a sure thing, no one is in this draft. I like Pickett the best. Besides, they don't have the draft capital to move up and would be foolish to offer up future 1sts to move up in this year's draft for a QB. They are better off trying to get Trubisky. The Bears didn't use him right and is usually a terrible place for a young QB.
I'd say there are no sure thing QB's in any draft and a lot changes from what we think today on some of these QB's and what they might be.
Will be an immediate asset to a winning team, IMO. Still very young, he’s got good hands, runs clean routes. Terrific possession receiver. Would fit in great on the Niners, and would give Lance a reliable underneath target.
