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Yeah... My issue is that I don't see a top of round 2 pick bargain that makes sense. Other teams should want these guys more than Chicago. Worst case is to grab CB King or OT Robinson. Although JuJu or Cook could be interesting too...
Who are you tied in with at the 49ers that is giving you this inside info that they would have stayed pat and not of traded with anyone else?
So you're saying Pace should've passed on a guy he really likes in hopes of getting the one pick next year???
Of course they could have traded with someone else. Chicago must have thought they were going to, obviously. I just think the Bears made a knee jerk head scratching move when they need a lot more help on their team.
This will be interesting. I was hoping they would take Adams round one and grab Keizer in 2 if available.
The Bucs moved up for Roberto Aguayo in the second round last year.BusterTBronco said:
A move like this isn't knee-jerk. They have been considering this scenario for months.
I don't think anybody cares about the 3rd round picks that much. What is disappointing is that many of us don't think Trubisky is a franchise QB after 13 starts and 2 years where he couldn't beat out a non-NFL QB.Giving up third round picks is too much for a franchise qb.Sure.
Who took over your account? So now this is a thoughtful and well run organization that is implementing a master plan for total football domination? They signed Mike Glennon to a $45M contract with $18.5M guaranteed as a bridge QB for Mitchell Trubisky, a 13 game starter with mediocre numbers and tape in those games, and gave up multiple picks to move up ONE SPOT to get him!
Doesn't matter what me or you think about Trubisky. Have to trust Pace knows his stuff. Last year's draft says he does.
So it's no big deal because the Bears haven't been good at evaluating talent in the 3rd and 4th rounds of the draft? All the more reason to accumulate picks, not give them away like jelly beans to move one spot.
We suck at drafting so let's just give the picks away. Bet John Fox was behind that.
Never said they were a well run organization. Said they didn't make the decision at the last second. Everyone knew Garrett was going first. The Bears had to be thinking about this move we'll ahead of time. I want them to get a qb. Didn't care how they did it. We'll see what happens.
I think the majority of fans are willing to give him a chance. I feel that most people are happy to have a QB, they just don't like what they had to give up to get him.
It would be nice if the city of Chicago could actually get behind a qb for once. They never have. I actually feel bad for most QBs coming here. Fans and local media blow
I think Chicago fans will be behind Trubisky more than you think. Remember, the back up QB is always the most popular player on the team. It will be even more true this season. If Glennon isn't great the fans will be calling for Trubisky. If the Bear's waited until the second round or even traded back in the first to get their QB you wouldn't see as much pressure on getting the rookie on the field.
I think it is hilarious that they are trying to prove the Bears didn't give up much by showing the terrible draft picks the Bears have made in the third and fourth rounds in the past.
I agree, I think that is the stupidest point that some people try and make in order to defend them giving up those picks. If that's how we're going to think then why ever have 3rd round picks. Might as well not have a 6th or 7th either since starters rarely come from those rounds as well. Lets only use the 1st and 2nd round picks every year and see if they can build a team that way. Bunch of goof balls.
100% agree. But f___ it, lets see what we have. Pace hitched his horse and an all or nothing roll is worth it right now. Worst case we celebrate a starting QB in 2017
That's not the argument. The argument is it's worth this risk, due to the less likelihood of getting a perennial pro Bowler in the 3rd, to get a franchise qb. That's why first rounders are worth more.
This is not what the justification for giving up 3rd round picks for a franchise qb is. What about the teams who give up multiple firsts for a QB? Does that mean 1st round picks are worthless because most of them wash out? No. That's not the point. The Chiefs are a very well run organization that's made a lot of great picks over the years. They just gave up a ton to get Mahomes. Do you think they're dumb? Did they make a terrible choice? Their good track record gives them the benefit of the doubt, thought. The Bears don't get that benefit from most people. Doesn't mean it was a bad move.
I take it you haven't seen the people who were showing the Bear's past 3rd round picks in order to prove that they Bears really didn't give up much. To me that's a poor argument.
That's the other factor. How much effort does Glennon give knowing he's only there for this year? Do the players show him respect? Locker room issues galore. They'll have to start MT at some point.
The biggest difference is the Chiefs moved up 17 spots. The Bears moved one spot and took a guy that would have likely been available with no movement. Was it 100% that he would be there? No, but it was more probable that he would be there than it is he becomes a pro-bowler. I find it hard to believe that any scouting department would have had Trubiski so much higher than any other QB. If a team has Mitch #1, cool. If they have him #1 and a big gap to #2, they are likely incompetent.
For a guy who's been claiming we can't know everything that's going on behind the scenes, you're pretty sure of yourself on this behind the scenes scenario.
I really do not think the Bears are competing for the #1 pick next year.
What?!? Chiefs moving up a long way giving up a ####load was OK but Bears giving up a couple thirds because they only moved up one spot to get the top qb in the draft wasn't? And how do you know any team is incompetent because of how they have QBs rated?
Does that not sound like common sense to you? Everyone knew the consensus #1 pick. The Bears traded up immediately to the #2 pick. You can't possibly think they hadn't considered that until right after Garrett was picked.
Their terrible coaching staff doesn't mean they shouldn't ever draft a qb. But that's definitely a big concern. They need a new coach definitely.
I like the fact that Pace made a signature move. He is a young, respected GM with a historic franchise who could have done the safe thing and sat tight for the BPA (which in his opinion still could have been Trubisky) or moved down to accumulate pics and maybe ended up with Watson. But he gambled and hitched his cart to this horse. I hope he's right. And if he is, he's going to be seen as a genius. But I just don't think he is.
