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1 minute ago, Pip's Invitation said:

There are orders of magnitude fewer posts about the Bears firings than the Vikings and Dolphins firings. Because expected or because nobody cares anymore?

I think it's a lack of caring. Even the most loyal of Bears fans are just over it at this point. No reason to have hope or give them any of your time. 

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So far, I have read that the Bears have requested interviews with:

  • Leslie Frazier
  • Nathaniel Hackett
  • Todd Bowles
  • Brian Daboll
  • Doug Peterson
  • Byron Leftwich
  • Matt Eberflus

Interesting that Harbaugh, McDaniels, and Flores are not listed.

 

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25 minutes ago, 3nOut said:

So far, I have read that the Bears have requested interviews with:

  • Leslie Frazier
  • Nathaniel Hackett
  • Todd Bowles
  • Brian Daboll
  • Doug Peterson
  • Byron Leftwich
  • Matt Eberflus

Interesting that Harbaugh, McDaniels, and Flores are not listed.

 

 

In the case of Harbaugh, he doesn't have an agent who might be leaking this news.

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1 hour ago, 3nOut said:

So far, I have read that the Bears have requested interviews with:

  • Leslie Frazier
  • Nathaniel Hackett
  • Todd Bowles
  • Brian Daboll
  • Doug Peterson
  • Byron Leftwich
  • Matt Eberflus

Interesting that Harbaugh, McDaniels, and Flores are not listed.

 

Flores news just came out. And a request for Quinn. 

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1 hour ago, 3nOut said:

So far, I have read that the Bears have requested interviews with:

  • Leslie Frazier
  • Nathaniel Hackett
  • Todd Bowles
  • Brian Daboll
  • Doug Peterson
  • Byron Leftwich
  • Matt Eberflus

Interesting that Harbaugh, McDaniels, and Flores are not listed.

 

Such an uninspiring list. 

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13 hours ago, 3nOut said:

So far, I have read that the Bears have requested interviews with:

  • Leslie Frazier
  • Nathaniel Hackett
  • Todd Bowles
  • Brian Daboll
  • Doug Peterson
  • Byron Leftwich
  • Matt Eberflus

Interesting that Harbaugh, McDaniels, and Flores are not listed.

 

No Roman is such a joke. Doubt Harbaugh would be mentioned by anyone yet. 

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14 hours ago, flapgreen said:

Right. These morons don't even have a damn GM yet. 

 

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Bears requested permission to interview Patriots’ director of scouting Eliot Wolf for their GM job, per source.

 

 

They might end up with two ex-Packers - Wolf as GM and Hacket as HC.  Eliot Wolf is Ron Wolf's son, was in line for the Packers GM job but left Green Bay in 2018 when they chose Brian Gutekunst over him. Had the job in Cleveland for a year or two, then took a big step down to become an assistant in NE.

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1 hour ago, CletiusMaximus said:

 

 

They might end up with two ex-Packers - Wolf as GM and Hacket as HC.  Eliot Wolf is Ron Wolf's son, was in line for the Packers GM job but left Green Bay in 2018 when they chose Brian Gutekunst over him. Had the job in Cleveland for a year or two, then took a big step down to become an assistant in NE.

There's no reason to start interviewing head coaches before they hire a GM. But I'll admit I do like the list of GM candidates they're looking at so far. 

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Never hire a coach before the GM. We used to do that with the Jets. Totally disrupts the chain of command and leads to an organization in constant personnel battles and disarray. That's just a bad move. 

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2 hours ago, InDitkaWeTrust said:

This only works if they bring in a cap guru like Khan at the GM position.  Harbaugh will want to control most of the personnel decisions and he will end up butting heads with a traditional GM candidate.

Agreed. Maybe even elevate Champ to GM. 

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  • flapgreen changed the title to ***Chicago Bears Thread*** Packers lost. Nothing else matters
On 1/22/2022 at 8:15 PM, flapgreen said:

Word from the inside is the whole search has been a complete cluster. No direction. Just random 

Any time you have a candidate list THAT BIG, it seems like you have no idea what you are looking for.  I get checking our all sorts of options, but some of that needs to be done in the background before you start the interview process so you can be ready to start hiring somewhat quickly.  The Giants made a good hire, maybe not the only right one, but were able to do it long before the Bears are even considering making an offer and they lose out on what seems to be a good candidate.  Couple that With the Colts Assistant GM removing his name from consideration and I think we lost two of the more experienced guys on that list.

I have no faith in the the process, but i still have hope whoever they do pick can rise to the job and improve the team.

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It's like a game of musical chairs with clowns on crutches limping around in a circle(jerk) to some out of tune hymn about suffering and regret until eventually a drawn out and too slow turntable stylus scratches the "music" off and the Bears are left standing around to hire the dumbest and ugliest clown they can find. 

*reverse jinx*

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  • flapgreen changed the title to ***Chicago Bears Thread*** Finalizing Deal with Poles as GM
5 minutes ago, ChiefD said:

Hope he take Bieniemy with him.

I should clarify this. I think Bieniemy needs to get a HC gig this offseason. I would like it to happen so the Chiefs can bring in some fresh voices to the offensive room.

He's been here a long time and I think Andy Reid would benefit from some fresh perspective also. 

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2 minutes ago, dhockster said:

Just curious, since you are a Chiefs fan, what is the negative about Bieniemy?

My theory is this:

1. He doesn't interview well. He's had plenty of chances to wow people during the interview process and hasn't even gotten an offer as far as we know.

2. I don't think he calls plays well. I'm fairly confident Reid gave him the keys to the offense several times this year in terms of calling plays, and you can pretty much tell when it happens. It's no coincidence to me the offense got remarkably better the last few weeks as we have gotten to playoff time.  Chiefs fans have noticed it even during certain games when the offense looks like total crap. And then all of a sudden they start to click. Has to be Reid taking it back over.

Reid does this from time to time to try and get his guys hired.

 

 

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Just now, ChiefD said:

 

Reid does this from time to time to try and get his guys hired.

 

 

The Bears are the perfect example. Reid gave Nagy just enough play calling experience to get him a HC job. Which as Bears fans know, turned out to be a bad hire.

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22 minutes ago, ChiefD said:

The Bears are the perfect example. Reid gave Nagy just enough play calling experience to get him a HC job. Which as Bears fans know, turned out to be a bad hire.

So have the Bears learned nothing about taking KC guys by now getting a GM from KC?    I think KC inflates value of coach/GM types (especially coaches) because they have elite players on offense.  They won't be able to take those elite guys with them so much of how they win won't translate.  

 

I have no idea if this GM had anything to do with getting those elite guys (maybe he was the reason why) but even so guys like Mahomes, Hill, and Kelce don't grow on trees even if you can identify when they do.  

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1 minute ago, Gally said:

So have the Bears learned nothing about taking KC guys by now getting a GM from KC?    I think KC inflates value of coach/GM types (especially coaches) because they have elite players on offense.  They won't be able to take those elite guys with them so much of how they win won't translate.  

 

I have no idea if this GM had anything to do with getting those elite guys (maybe he was the reason why) but even so guys like Mahomes, Hill, and Kelce don't grow on trees even if you can identify when they do.  

Poles has been a finalist at multiple places over the last year and the Vikings were definitely hiring him, if the Bears didn't. This is one hire that I don't think it mattered where he was at. 

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1 minute ago, flapgreen said:

Poles has been a finalist at multiple places over the last year and the Vikings were definitely hiring him, if the Bears didn't. This is one hire that I don't think it mattered where he was at. 

So if he were with the Jets or Lions he would be highly sought after? :)

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1 minute ago, flapgreen said:

Poles has been a finalist at multiple places over the last year and the Vikings were definitely hiring him, if the Bears didn't. This is one hire that I don't think it mattered where he was at. 

Makes you wonder if he made the decision or if the Bears offered him a lot more.  Looking at the rosters it's pretty close in terms of talent overall.  I have no idea how the cap situations compare but I think I would rather take over the Vikes situation but that's probably because I am a Vikes fan...hahaha

 

It all boils down to your Fields thoughts.   If you are a believer then probably going to the Bears makes sense for building purposes.  I think Cousins is better now but not sure  how much longer that will be.  Plus the cap hit for Cousins is pretty bad.  

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6 minutes ago, Gally said:

So have the Bears learned nothing about taking KC guys by now getting a GM from KC?    I think KC inflates value of coach/GM types (especially coaches) because they have elite players on offense.  They won't be able to take those elite guys with them so much of how they win won't translate.  

 

I have no idea if this GM had anything to do with getting those elite guys (maybe he was the reason why) but even so guys like Mahomes, Hill, and Kelce don't grow on trees even if you can identify when they do.  

I take it you didn't like the Nagy hire.  We got Terry Shea as offensive coordinator from KC and he was amazing!

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1 minute ago, yoman said:

I take it you didn't like the Nagy hire.  We got Terry Shea as offensive coordinator from KC and he was amazing!

I actually thought Nagy was a good hire at the time but he since proved that not to be the case.

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58 minutes ago, The Tick said:

OK, step 1 done.  I have no idea if this is a "good" hire or not, but it's step 1 in whatever the Bears are next.

Well he's got a lot of experience with a winning franchise and he's worked for a bunch of good personnel guys. But yeah who knows. 

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If it really is down to Eberflus, Caldwell and Quinn I’m highly in favor of Quinn. Caldwell is close to 70 and so uninspiring. Eberflus is interesting but I’d prefer the guy with the experience of being a head coach. I like that Quinn had some success and was so close to winning a title. Makes me think he will be laser focused in his second chance. I think Quinn would be a very good hire. 

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