Banger
Footballguy
Ironically, mexicans are 83% christian which is a HIGHER percentage than in the US. It's race plain and simple though they won't admit it
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The Commish
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SaintsInDome2006
Footballguy
Trump just stated that there is another caravan on its way, and it's bigger and badder than all the ones that have come before.
Banger
Footballguy
Ned
Footballguy
TobiasFunke
Footballguy
The bolded is false. There was a deal in place, the Senate passed it 100-0. Trump torpedoed it at the last minute because Rush and Ann Coulter called him a wimp.
As for your questions- why do all your questions put the burden on the Dems even though Trump openly admitted he was the one taking action to shut down the government? Why doesn't Trump just sign a CR and then try to cut a deal for the wall in exchange for Dem immigration priorities in separate legislation? He's the president. He's the one who single-handedly made the decision to shut down the government, by his own admission. He's the one who has bragged about his ability to work with Congress and make deals hundreds of times. He's also the one who promised that someone else would pay for the wall. Why are you letting him abandon his central campaign promises so readily?
Stealthycat
Footballguy
its gotta be something they all agree on sure
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-immigration-mexico/mexico-prepares-for-arrival-of-next-central-american-migrant-caravan-idUSKCN1P406O
SaintsInDome2006
Footballguy
The General
Footballguy
Trump headed to the border to fight them off himself.
Going to tie his big clown tie around his head like Rambo and deal with this once and for all.
Stealthycat
Footballguy
the bolded is true
both sides seem to be stumbling fools on what to do now .... these are the leaders, and they have no clue what to do. Its like a Mike Anderson team seeing a shift from zone to man to man .... absolutely stunned with no idea what to do.
didn't he do that yesterday? Didn't he ask Pelosi if he signed the budget to get past the partial shutdown would she then work on border security/wall and she said no, never no no no a wall
Trump drew a line
Pelosi/Schumer have drawn a line
now what ?
Banger
Footballguy
god, I hope it's not as bad as the last one where we had to have the military at the border...that was horrendous...we somehow survived it though...I don't know if the country would be able to fight off another one though...could be the end.
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The General
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Dude. How many times have you been given links about bipartisan deals that were there that Trump screwed up?
whoknew
Footballguy
Why does he wear his ties like that?
I mean - I guess there are a billion "why does Trump do ________" questions. And they all are answered with, "Because he's a cruel idiot."
knowledge dropper
Footballguy
Ignoramus
Footballguy
The General
Footballguy
How does he do anything in regard to his appearance?
He's delusional. It's honestly one of his strongest attributes.
whoknew
Footballguy
The General
Footballguy
Godsbrother
Footballguy
I may have missed it but I didn't see where Schumer said anything about a wall.
You may want to check out PolitiFact: https://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/statements/2019/jan/09/donald-trump/trump-democrats-reverse-border-wall-position/
Banger
Footballguy
dgreen
Footballguy
But like I said, I think a lot of these Christians value their Republican/American labels more than their Christian label. I assume these Mexicans are more likely to be Democrats than Republicans. They certainly aren't Americans. And, are they even real Christians. I mean, they're probably Catholics!
The General
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Don Quixote
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TobiasFunke
Footballguy
Now the guy with no leverage who only needs the money because he utterly failed to accomplish his central campaign promise and who is proposing a project that a wide majority of Americans don't want and who has already admitted that he bears total responsibility for the shutdown comes to his senses and finally governs as if he is the President of the United States instead of the president of the red states.
But that only happens if the minority of Americans who still support both him and his preposterous wall idea (i.e. you) do the same.
Banger
Footballguy
well first he needs to make sure he has the proper shoes to address his bone spurs in his feet as well as make sure he has proper arch support. You really can't fight effectively without proper foot attire....unfortunately for America he would've won the Vietnam war if not for those damn bone spurs....
Banger
Footballguy
of course they don't....they just look for reasons to spin and create false narratives. If they listened they wouldn't be supporters.
The Commish
Footballguy
Does it bother you that the GOP is refusing this approach simply because they believe the government shutdown is their "leverage" in this "negotiation"?
The Commish
Footballguy
Worth pointing out that the last two "huge" caravans have netted less than 10 total people being allowed across the border
Banger
Footballguy
and they all went on the being mass murderers and rapists while carrying drugs over the border, right?Worth pointing out that the last two "huge" caravans have netted less than 10 total people being allowed across the border
The Commish
Footballguy
Then this doesn't rest in the laps of Congress like you claim. Congress did their job...they came to agreement on how to move forward. Now it's on Trump. He either needs to agree or convince the other two groups that his idea is better. So far he's done neither. The ball is completely and squarely in his court. If you'll remember, he's on record saying that ONLY he can fix these sorts of things....time to step up, no?
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Mr. Joe Bryant called me out on this yesterday when I did a
emoji for a reply only.No banned alias here.
Banger
Footballguy
the wall is a metaphor....and when Mexico was supposed to pay for it it didn't mean that they were actually going to pay for it and besides I didn't even say what I said. It's all fake news, the media is out to get me.
We're pulling out of Syria today and we defeated ISIS our boys and girls are coming home...well when I said today and I meant we're staying indefinitely and I never said ISIS was defeated...FAKE NEWS!
I could go on and on and on and on and on.....
Banger
Footballguy
trade wars are easyWe've gone a long way from. "I alone can fix this!" to "The buck stops with everybody."
SaintsInDome2006
Footballguy
I wonder if sometimes when he's alone in the White House if Trump feels a sharp kick in the ### and he turns around no one's there.
The General
Footballguy
The minute super genius Trump said "I'll own the shutdown" this was a done deal. He botched this thing so badly. Either on purpose or because he's not capable of doing this, which is worse?
When he did his masterful negotiations in the business world his go to move was to not pay people, let them sue, lie, declare bankruptcy, stiff his contractors, on and on.
What did you think was going to happen when he tried to run the government?
Sammy3469
Footballguy
The General
Footballguy
Yup. Doesn't work out so well.
I'm no bankruptcy expert but isn't it all laid out by government regulations?
Trump couldn't even scam his way out of paying all his debts without having the Feds bail him out
Skoo
Footballguy
There's always a tweet:
Kyle GriffinVerified account @kylegriffin1 6m6 minutes ago
Q: Does the buck stop with you over this shutdown?
Trump: "The buck stops with everybody."
Donald J. Trump✔@realDonaldTrump
Leadership: Whatever happens, you're responsible. If it doesn't happen, you're responsible.
2:01 PM - Nov 8, 2013
joffer
Footballguy
you could check the thread before posting this for the nth time. just a thought.
Kyle GriffinVerified account @kylegriffin1 6m6 minutes ago
Q: Does the buck stop with you over this shutdown?
Trump: "The buck stops with everybody."
ericttspikes
Footballguy
Maybe they're listening to the representatives of ALL the border districts in Congress who don't want a wall?
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/trumps-border-wall-every-congressperson-along-southern-border-opposes-border-wall-funding-2019-1-8/
Dickies
Footballguy
knowledge dropper
Footballguy
Just declare a national emergency and construct a military grade fence on the southern boarder. The fence can be similar to the Eastern Front in WWI. Protect it with drones. Problem solved for less than a billion.
The supermajority (60% of states) that swept Trump into office during the landslide of 2016 will be happy.
The supermajority (60% of states) that swept Trump into office during the landslide of 2016 will be happy.
Sammy3469
Footballguy
The General
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SWC
Bromigo
and quite frankly most mexicans that i have interacted with are honest work ridiculously hard all for their family to make something better for them and actually practice christian values and observe the churchs rules like its their job now hey that is just the mexcians that i have worked with but to me those mexicans seemed to be prettygreat old school americans take that to the bank bromigos
He is definitely going to declare an emergency and attempt to take the money from the military budget. It's his only off ramp. He's painted himself into a corner and he's exhausted every other measure. He has nowhere to go and there's a zero chance that congress is funding his medieval wall. So he'll declare an emergency. It'll be challenged and go to court. Government will reopen. He'll lose badly in court. And he'll claim that he didn't cave and fought for his base.
Banger
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