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They will eventually get paid. It's the federal contractors that won't get paid nor will they get paid for the time it's shut down.
Good point. But if the shutdown takes place and lasts for any amount of time it is trouble for these employees.
This illustrates one of the many reasons why government shutdowns are so stupid.
That's true especially this time of year. This doesn't affect me any longer but the last two I went through the federal employees I worked with openly rooted for a shutdown and called it a free vacation. It's pretty messed up
This has historically been true but Trump hasn’t always followed historical practices. Has he given any indication about whether he would sign or veto such a law?
As this plays out, keep in mind that last February Dems supported for a bipartisan plan that offered $25 billion for the wall in exchange for a legislative DACA fix and shuffling of enforcement priorities. Trump and the GOP turned it down because it didn't do enough to choke off legal immigration:
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Jump cut to Baron sitting daddy down to tell him he can't shut down the federal government because he broke one of his toys.
Thing is...he wants what, 5 billion? Dems offered 1.5?
Not sure I agree. Trump wants the media to spend more time talking about the shutdown to distract them from his legal and political problems regarding Mueller's probe and indictment talk.
While that's definitely true, he might want to stay off the golf course or that will be what the media talks about.
Has Devos tripped over her teats trying to give him education funds?Trump is asking every agency for money to build the wall.
Good luck with that.
Because lack of money is only an excuse. The real reason the wall won’t be built is because most politicians, both Democrat and Republican, know that it’s a terrible idea. It’s jusr that, mostly on the Republican side, they’re afraid to tell you that.
Or like Sarah Sanders said yesterday they will get the money elsewhere by going through the seat cushions of various other agencies.
Nope, any tiny chance he had evaporates on Friday. Zero chance once the new blue congress gets together in January.
I was listening to a republican (here in MI, can’t remember who) on npr who was talking about different options to fund the wall. The one he mentioned was, as he put it, a “buy a brick” idea where anyone who wanted to fund the wall could- us citizens, corporations, he even said they could model the site to take pesos as well so if anyone in Mexico wanted to donate.....god this is going to bother me, I’ll see if I can dig it up when I get out of work and figure out who said this carp.
It will. But hopefully the simplistic and silly solution of a wall on our southern border will not.
I suggested in another thread those commemorative bricks with your name and a message. Those always sell like hotcakes.
I was listening to the 538 podcast on Monday and they talked about the wall. They said that an actual wall is super unpopular. And they could not understand why Trump keeps pushing it - especially when he's already metaphorically built a wall by cutting back immigration so significantly. They think his supporters are fine with the moves he's already taken and don't need him to actually build a wall.
Same as the "Ill release the FISA" stuff. He wants the talking point/narrative and nothing more. Something to rally the base around when things look bad elsewhere.
It's plain and simple. It was his loudest rally cry during the campaign. And it still gets the red-hats fired up at his rallies. He hates admitting to failure. That's why he never does, even when he fails miserably. This wall nonsense has been thrown in everyone's face for three years now. Complete with lie transformation of Mexico is paying to they're still kind of paying for it. It's impossible for Trump to walk this back or pretend he was misquoted. The wall is a humungous failure on his biggest promise. And that's after already being slapped in the nose and failing on healthcare reform.
His two biggest campaign promises are yet to be delivered, although not entirely his fault. 1) Building the wall and 2) Locking her up.
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It is entirely his fault that he promised something (the wall) that he had virtually no control over. (And, it's entirely his supporters' fault for believing him and for continuing to believe him after 2 years of inaction.)
And third being replacing Obama care with something much better. That's a whole lotta fail. 0-3
Do you think these are going to happen? They didn't happen with the GOP controlled everything, now they don't control everything and he has to deal with the Dems. What do you put his chances for delivery at?
Very low thanks mainly to the non-cooperation of Congress to help get the wall accomplished. Same with Obamacare repeal.
Yes. That's our political system. When you think something is an awful idea, you don't cooperate.
because then you couldn't see through it and you'd get hit in the head with bags of drugs being thrown over the wall. plus it would ruin the aesthetics.
