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My dad has been sick for a few weeks.  My mom called me today to say he was about to die.  I said some final words to him and he could hear me but was unable to respond.  He passed a short time later.

Not to derail anything, but we had our baby last night! She's doing amazingly well. Due to the hospital's pandemic policies, I had to leave her right after my wife was released from recovery. I can't

On a positive note, my wife gave birth to our first child this morning!! We were expecting our daughter to be born in the first week of April, which does not align very well if this hospital sees a ma

4 hours ago, fatguyinalittlecoat said:

I just realized that “a vaccination” is an anagram for “I can vacation.”

 

Lol.

But on a serious note you can still totally spread it to everybody. I mean you could be vaccinated and one of your friends could be vaccinated. You could still get it from your friend and then go to the grocery store and spread it to everybody there. 

Nobody would even know because you would all be fine, but still we dont know what effects there could be in 37 years from that completely unobservable super spreading event. 

Better stay home til march of 2022 just to be safe. 

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3 hours ago, Pip's Invitation said:

First shot today (Moderna). No side effects other than mild soreness in the injection area. Second dose March 29. 

Congrats

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Update: two older kids show no symptoms at all and youngest no longer shows a hint of any symptoms. My cough went away. Wife has improved with her minor breathing issues. 

For her and myself, I can't say it was directly a result but I did get some pills that have vitamin C, zinc, elderberry, ginger, vitamin D, turmeric, and echinacea. Started it the same night as I began to have my cough. 

I also got the kids a kids version with Elderberry, vitamin c and zinc to go along with their normal vitamins. 

All in all it looks like we will navigate this as a family with a sum total of one throw up from my daughter, one night of minor coughing from me, my wife’s asthma acting up slightly and my youngest seeming a little tired for a day. 

I am convinced that the mortality rates are even lower than they think on this because there has to be many who have had this and never had aclue they were sick at all, let alone had rona. If not for mu daughter being sent home from school and essentially us needing to get her tested to get back we would not have suspected anything. How many more people are the same and not counted in the figures because they never tested? Not to mention how many deaths are added as caused by rona when something else, say cancer or even a car accident, simply because they tested positive. It is amazing how much damage this novel virus has done... imagine something that was mildly deadly... civilization would collapse. 

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7 hours ago, Scoresman said:

How are they going to find out how long the vaccines work other than “wait until people who were vaccinated first start getting COVID again”. 

There are people who are part of the Phase 4 trial that will continue to be tested for COVID and antibodies. 

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9 hours ago, Chadstroma said:

I am convinced that the mortality rates are even lower than they think on this because there has to be many who have had this and never had a clue they were sick at all, let alone had rona. If not for my daughter being sent home from school and essentially us needing to get her tested to get back we would not have suspected anything. How many more people are the same and not counted in the figures because they never tested?

It's not common knowledge, but the same is true of the various strains of seasonal influenza.  Asymptomatic carriers far outnumber those who actually get a serious case of influenza.

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24 minutes ago, Doug B said:

It's not common knowledge, but the same is true of the various strains of seasonal influenza. Contagious asymptomatic carriers far outnumber those who actually get a serious case of influenza.

Asymptomatic transimission rates aren't settled science and many believe they are very low.

 

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Just now, parasaurolophus said:
31 minutes ago, Doug B said:

It's not common knowledge, but the same is true of the various strains of seasonal influenza. Contagious asymptomatic carriers far outnumber those who actually get a serious case of influenza.

Asymptomatic transmission rates aren't settled science and many believe they are very low.

For influenza or for COVID?

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So what happens if you travel overseas post 2 shots and still test +?  I've heard a few anecdotal stories that say it's possible to test + like this, but not how this is handled. 

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6 minutes ago, Doug B said:

For influenza or for COVID?

Well both arent settled as far as %, but flu is what my comment was directed at since thatvis what your comment was about.

So while serological studies show that the number of people that had the virus asymptomatically definitely outweigh the number of people that fall ill, we dont know their role in spreading and it is likely quite low since their levels of shedding are quite low. 

 

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2 minutes ago, parasaurolophus said:
16 minutes ago, Doug B said:

For influenza or for COVID?

Well both arent settled as far as %, but flu is what my comment was directed at since thatvis what your comment was about.

So while serological studies show that the number of people that had the virus asymptomatically definitely outweigh the number of people that fall ill, we dont know their role in spreading and it is likely quite low since their levels of shedding are quite low

I see. I agree with you and will strike through the word 'contagious' above. "Silent spreading" is still possible, but it's a much reduced risk compared to transmission from symptomatic people.

My point for Chadstroma should have been just that a good number of "stealth influenza" cases are out there every year, and COVID kind of acts the same way from a top-of-the-mountain view.

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4 minutes ago, DallasDMac said:

Texas cementing its ranking as most inept state at handling pandemics.

I was just coming in here to commend Texas for protecting its economy, businesses and jobs.

Everybody knows the risk, conduct yourself accordingly.

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2 minutes ago, TripItUp said:

I was just coming in here to commend Texas for protecting its economy, businesses and jobs.

Everybody knows the risk, conduct yourself accordingly.

So, never leave the house? That's really the only realistic option now that everyone can pack stores to capacity without any requirement to mask up. Hunker down and have everything delivered I guess.

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57 minutes ago, DallasDMac said:

So, never leave the house? That's really the only realistic option now that everyone can pack stores to capacity without any requirement to mask up. Hunker down and have everything delivered I guess.

Long before this pandemic, one of my favorite sayings was, "If you're scared, stay home"... it fits perfectly now.

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Biden: "We're now on track to have enough vaccine supply for every adult in America by the end of May."

 

:towelwave:
 

 

see you in hell, covid 

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7 minutes ago, Capella said:

Biden: "We're now on track to have enough vaccine supply for every adult in America by the end of May."

 

:towelwave:
 

 

see you in hell, covid 

Yea, except if states start acting like Texas, we are going to be back up to January numbers before then.

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1 minute ago, Leeroy Jenkins said:

Yea, except if states start acting like Texas, we are going to be back up to January numbers before then.

Maybe, and that’s crazy Texas is doing that but there’s a lot of vaccinated people and people who have already had it. 

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Retail Industry Leaders Association opposes Texas mask rule ending: 

Will "unfairly put retail employees back in the role of enforcing guidelines still recommended by the CDC...could also jeopardize the safety of pharmacies and grocers that are gearing up as vaccination centers"

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28 minutes ago, Capella said:

Biden: "We're now on track to have enough vaccine supply for every adult in America by the end of May."

 

:towelwave:
 

 

see you in hell, covid 

Yep, this is fantastic news.  We've already gotten a nice uptick in vaccination rates -- hopefully we can really get the floodgates open here soon.

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16 minutes ago, IvanKaramazov said:

Yep, this is fantastic news.  We've already gotten a nice uptick in vaccination rates -- hopefully we can really get the floodgates open here soon.

We can knock this thing out for all intents and purposes this spring if we dont mess it up like Texas is trying to do. Why potentially give back all of the recent progress when we are so close???

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17 minutes ago, Leeroy Jenkins said:

We can knock this thing out for all intents and purposes this spring if we dont mess it up like Texas is trying to do. Why potentially give back all of the recent progress when we are so close???

Red state. Political. Wants to be the first to go maskless. 
 

Some more people will die in the short-term but I doubt it affects this thing being kicked in the face by the summer. 

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I'm here to say masks must apparently work. So my youngest daughter is in pre-k and multiple kids in her class have tested positive for covid. So we waited 1 week and then went and got her tested. Came back negative. So either masks really do make a difference (and she is great about wearing them, especially for a 5 year old) or she's just so damn beautiful that this ugly virus can't touch her. Either way, I'm relieved. ;)

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1 hour ago, Leeroy Jenkins said:

Yea, except if states start acting like Texas, we are going to be back up to January numbers before then.

Texas opened the flood gates. By the end of next week half the states will have significantly decreased restrictions and the other half will be demanding it. It’s the summer of 2020 all over again. Good thing we will have all that vaccine that’s no one will want because they think the pandemic is over.

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2 hours ago, playin4beer said:

Long before this pandemic, one of my favorite sayings was, "If you're scared, stay home"... it fits perfectly now.

There was absolutely no reason to lift the mask mandate. You can easily open businesses and leave the mandate in place. Removing the mask restriction at this time is just out and out stupid. There is no reason for it other than the fact Abbott is a moron. And you seem to confuse the words "scared" and "smart." When science and infectious disease experts are all on the the same side of the argument, I feel pretty confident in my point of view.

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2 hours ago, ffmail4me said:

I'm here to say masks must apparently work. So my youngest daughter is in pre-k and multiple kids in her class have tested positive for covid. So we waited 1 week and then went and got her tested. Came back negative. So either masks really do make a difference (and she is great about wearing them, especially for a 5 year old) or she's just so damn beautiful that this ugly virus can't touch her. Either way, I'm relieved. ;)

I think some people may be immune... 

My sister has two daughters and lives in a small one bedroom apartment. They are on top of each other. Both girls got it. My sister did not and one of the daughters had been kissing her bf and he didn't get it... 

Or maybe they did and had no symptoms? I don't remember if she said they got tested or not. 

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1 hour ago, Chadstroma said:

I think some people may be immune... 

My sister has two daughters and lives in a small one bedroom apartment. They are on top of each other. Both girls got it. My sister did not and one of the daughters had been kissing her bf and he didn't get it... 

Or maybe they did and had no symptoms? I don't remember if she said they got tested or not. 

I have a really close friend that somehow didn't get it (tested negative 3 times) after his wife and twin daughters were all positive. The twins are schooling from home, the wife teaching from home and he's working from home. It's a small ranch house and they are on top of each other 24x7. 

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10 hours ago, culdeus said:

So what happens if you travel overseas post 2 shots and still test +?  I've heard a few anecdotal stories that say it's possible to test + like this, but not how this is handled. 

My 6 week trip turns into 7...8.....

This has absolutely crossed my mind :lol: 

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12 minutes ago, DallasDMac said:

‘RIP Texas’ trends after Gov. Abbott lifts COVID-19 mask mandate, reopens state 100%

The rest of the nation seems to recognize the idiocy of the move. Abbott doing whatever he can to deflect attention from the issues the state is dealing with.

Expect Mississippi is doing the same. And South Dakota that never had them.  Oh and Montana, Iowa and North Dakata. But yeah, Twitter.  

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So where would you count a state that publicly encouraged to wear them but not pass a state mandate

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10 hours ago, Penguin said:

I have a really close friend that somehow didn't get it (tested negative 3 times) after his wife and twin daughters were all positive. The twins are schooling from home, the wife teaching from home and he's working from home. It's a small ranch house and they are on top of each other 24x7. 

Yep same for me and my son. Wife got it. Didn't isolate. We never got it. I tested negative and recently got antibody test and that was negative also.

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10 hours ago, DallasDMac said:

‘RIP Texas’ trends after Gov. Abbott lifts COVID-19 mask mandate, reopens state 100%

The rest of the nation seems to recognize the idiocy of the move. 

My personal sense is that the rest of the nation is still mentally stuck in January (or November maybe) and hasn't fully grasped how big a deal widespread vaccination is.  If I were governor of a state with a mask mandate and various lockdown orders -- both of which I strongly supported a few months ago -- I would not be lifting them yet, but I'd be making plans to do so in the near future.  If I were suddenly made governor of a state that didn't have those measures in place, I wouldn't bother spending political capital on them at this point. 

I'm seeing a lot of this stuck-in-two-months-ago mindset in my corner of academia at the moment.  This is the time of year when we need to seriously firm up our plans for the upcoming fall semester.  Under normal circumstances that's completely routine and no big deal at all, but I'm hearing lots of chatter along the lines of "What is fall going to be like?"  It seems like it should pretty obvious to everyone that the fall semester is going to be mostly or entirely normal, but that's not obvious at all to a lot of people, because they're looking at case counts right now and not really thinking ahead to what case counts are going to look like six months from now.

Old people, health care workers, and other folks who used to be "high risk" that we worried about a lot, are now way down in the "basically zero risk" category.  We're not quite there yet, but it won't be long at all before people like us -- late-40s or early-50s, basically good health -- are the highest-risk people remaining.  And honestly, there's little justification for continuing to shut down society on our account.     

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7 minutes ago, IvanKaramazov said:

My personal sense is that the rest of the nation is still mentally stuck in January (or November maybe) and hasn't fully grasped how big a deal widespread vaccination is.  If I were governor of a state with a mask mandate and various lockdown orders -- both of which I strongly supported a few months ago -- I would not be lifting them yet, but I'd be making plans to do so in the near future.  If I were suddenly made governor of a state that didn't have those measures in place, I wouldn't bother spending political capital on them at this point. 

I'm seeing a lot of this stuck-in-two-months-ago mindset in my corner of academia at the moment.  This is the time of year when we need to seriously firm up our plans for the upcoming fall semester.  Under normal circumstances that's completely routine and no big deal at all, but I'm hearing lots of chatter along the lines of "What is fall going to be like?"  It seems like it should pretty obvious to everyone that the fall semester is going to be mostly or entirely normal, but that's not obvious at all to a lot of people, because they're looking at case counts right now and not really thinking ahead to what case counts are going to look like six months from now.

Old people, health care workers, and other folks who used to be "high risk" that we worried about a lot, are now way down in the "basically zero risk" category.  We're not quite there yet, but it won't be long at all before people like us -- late-40s or early-50s, basically good health -- are the highest-risk people remaining.  And honestly, there's little justification for continuing to shut down society on our account.     

There is a huge difference between planning to lift restrictions and doing so now. Being close to doing so safely makes it even dumber to doing it prematurely. 

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7 hours ago, Drunken Cowboy said:

I am scheduled for Thursday afternoon 

:hifive: 

Our state announced an expansion of vaccines to essential workers yesterday, and I had found out Monday that we are considered essential. Jumped onto Walgreen's site and luckily found an appointment for Thursday. Almost feel guilty for how quickly I am getting it. 

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3 minutes ago, Kilgore Trout said:

:hifive: 

Our state announced an expansion of vaccines to essential workers yesterday, and I had found out Monday that we are considered essential. Jumped onto Walgreen's site and luckily found an appointment for Thursday. Almost feel guilty for how quickly I am getting it. 

Yeah, I am also NC. Pretty much the same story 

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1 hour ago, IvanKaramazov said:

My personal sense is that the rest of the nation is still mentally stuck in January (or November maybe) and hasn't fully grasped how big a deal widespread vaccination is.  If I were governor of a state with a mask mandate and various lockdown orders -- both of which I strongly supported a few months ago -- I would not be lifting them yet, but I'd be making plans to do so in the near future.  If I were suddenly made governor of a state that didn't have those measures in place, I wouldn't bother spending political capital on them at this point. 

I'm seeing a lot of this stuck-in-two-months-ago mindset in my corner of academia at the moment.  This is the time of year when we need to seriously firm up our plans for the upcoming fall semester.  Under normal circumstances that's completely routine and no big deal at all, but I'm hearing lots of chatter along the lines of "What is fall going to be like?"  It seems like it should pretty obvious to everyone that the fall semester is going to be mostly or entirely normal, but that's not obvious at all to a lot of people, because they're looking at case counts right now and not really thinking ahead to what case counts are going to look like six months from now.

Old people, health care workers, and other folks who used to be "high risk" that we worried about a lot, are now way down in the "basically zero risk" category.  We're not quite there yet, but it won't be long at all before people like us -- late-40s or early-50s, basically good health -- are the highest-risk people remaining.  And honestly, there's little justification for continuing to shut down society on our account.     

I feel like now that we have multiple vaccine options and will have enough supply for the entire adult population before summer, that it is irresponsible to lift mandates, when we are so close and some have sacrificed so much to get to this light at the end of the tunnel.  

While percentages are looking better vs the winter, we actually had an uptick in cases and deaths again this week, and as far as gross infections per day, that is still up.

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