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Societal standards are skewed toward an unhealthy weight for men. Like it or not, you’re almost certainly obese. Perhaps more importantly, central adiposity (big stomach) is associated with a host of chronic diseases.
This is true, but there is plenty of data showing BMI correlates to health and disease. Moreover, on a population level, BMI tends to underestimate body fat, not overstate it, as implied by people attributing high BMIs to excess muscle mass/big frame/etc.
Oh, for sure. Was just agreeing that a lot of muscle mass can mess up the raw #s.
Your BMI has to be over 40 in CA to qualifyI just went to a website California has to see if you're eligible. There was a question about health conditions, one of which was "obesity". I would be considered "obese" by the standard BMI chart that is widely accepted. I did not check that I was obese, maybe I should have. Wonder if that would have changed anything. I don't consider myself overly obese. I could stand to lose 15-20 pounds, maybe more... but by no means am I a huge fat slob.
Because it is a different virus?
He’s 6’6” and weighs 251 pounds. We’ve got a couple guys in the last two pages who weigh about the same, yet scoff at the idea of being obese, despite being half a foot shorter.
Who scoffed at it? I literally called myself obese in the post you replied to and decided to pile on for no reason whatsoever. Your bedside manner sucks.
Fair enough, but there’s plenty non-comedic BMI denial and mockery of what constitutes a healthy weight, so it’s hard to know who’s joking.
You said “everyone thinks I’m crazy when I tell them I’m obese”, and you’d “look like a crack addict” at a healthy weight. Then you went on to give the standard (generally inapplicable) excuse why BMI is “stupid”. I’m not trying to get in a p!ssing match with you, or anyone, but suffice it to say, I strongly disagree regarding the utility of BMI.
That situation really is ridiculous. And it is what happens when they open up things to do big of a portion of the population at once. Of course, where I am we have the opposite — very narrow groups of people who qualify, but then a bunch of IL a-holes finding excuses to jump the line......
If there's one thing I've learned from BMI discussions on this forum, it's that 99% of the adult male population is build like Ray Lewis. It's just that I never see any of those guys because they all live everyplace except the places that I live, visit, or see on television.
I thought he was quite a bit heavier than that. Plus he's in his late 50s, so likely at least an inch shorter than his playing days.
There’s extensive discussion up thread regarding the prevalence of conditions which place one at increased risk of covid complications: it’s well over 50% of the population. This is one of the reasons the idea of “opening up” early was never a good idea, as you can’t realistically sequester all those people and their loved ones.
Per the CDC vaccination tracker, SD has the 3rd highest 1st dose vaccination rate at 22.5%. Their efficiency is also good at 78%. ND is also doing well at 21.4% and 87% (2nd highest).
Yeah, we're actually doing pretty well with regard to vaccinations. But we (not me personally, my state) handled the rest of the pandemic so poorly that I can't really begrudge anybody for taking a shot. We earned that.
Amen. This is why I've rejected out of hand all the calls to "protect the vulnerable!" Who's truly not vulnerable for sure?
At this point, absolutely. Also need mobile vaccination efforts to get into areas where people struggle with transportation -- door-to-door if necessary.
My state's done the same thing and IIRC it's around 50-60% of the population that qualifies under the 1B criteria above. I got in line on 1/27 and expect to have my appointment 3rd or 4th week of the month, give or take. Seems like shots happen within a week of that, so I'm expecting to get mine at the very end of the month or early April.
Opening it up to a giant share of the population without the volume of doses to meet demand (weeks and weeks ago) is the reason some states seem chaotic for folks who want a vaccine.
Did you read this?
The article looks like a political squabble to me. The PM starts saying that the pandemic is over a few weeks ahead of an election. The public health guys think that's irresponsible and threaten a fourth lockdown and tell that to a friendly reporter.
Then you also get to defend against our Russian friends
That’s cause all us fat ####s crushing a +30 BMI wanna get out and get jiggy wit it.
Obesity + high blood pressure (controlled or uncontrolled) alone is probably more than half.
You’re probably to the point where South Dakota starts dropping in the rankings for % vaccinated. As you get to more of the open groups, you’ll see which states don’t care or believe in vaccinations. Your county probably isn’t too rural in comparison to the rest of the state, but a lot of the state will be fighting to convince people to get the shot very soon.
One would think a state like CT (somewhat small, good density, not very rural, lots of commuters into NYC via train) would end up being very high on vaccination penetration.Biff84 said:
It is still a coronavirus that spreads through droplets and aerosols. Kids will carry it home if exposed. There is evidence of that happening, as well as kids who have long-hauler complications from it. The faster we get to a place where the vaccines are deemed safe for kids, the better.parasaurolophus said:
Wonder what changed.worrierking said:
I am guessing supply is starting to ramp up. They said Pfizer/Moderna would deliver 220mil by the end of March. They have a lot of doses to send out to pronto if they will reach that.
No reasonable person says it NEVER happens.
Data shows that transmission to/from kids is different, or only how they are not getting as sick?
These are good points. Are we quite sure kids don't spread COVID in numbers in a 'naive' 2019 school environment?
