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Government Response To The Coronavirus (16 Viewers)
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Dickies
Footballguy
Perhaps, but I doubt it. I’m specifically referring to the reporting that is saying people who show up at the border are either not being offered vaccines before being let in or are refusing vaccines and being let in anyways. Seems reckless and easily remedied.
djmich
Footballguy
GoBirds
Footballguy
You would think that would be the least complicated, absolute no brainer, wouldn’t you?
Navin Johnson
Footballguy
Yeah, as a citizen who just re-entered the country, I was required to submit proof of vaccination and a negative test. This should be the floor for non-citizens. Guy in front of me at check-in had a Mexican passport and it didn't look like he got thru. Held the window for 30 minutes. Check-ins are a ##### right now internationally.
Stealthycat
Footballguy
AAABatteries
Footballguy
IvanKaramazov
Footballguy
If somebody from Mexico wants to enter the US, get vaccinated, get a job, and mind his own business otherwise, he's welcome to take the place of a natural-born anti-vaxx citizen. I'd rather live next door to the Mexican guy.
Max Power
Footballguy
Stealthycat
Footballguy
wow how very patriotic of you ! illegally living in a country you're not a citizens is better for you than your own countrymen who don't want to take a shot
wow - that's probably the lowest thing I've ever read on this forum, truly
AAABatteries
Footballguy
Max Power
Footballguy
Stealthycat
Footballguy
-fish- at one point said he'd buy me a gun to get my shot and I agreed
never heard from him though ... I guess that deal fell through
hey, i can be bought, I just need more than a lottery ticket or free donuts
Max Power
Footballguy
Navin Johnson
Footballguy
Shula-holic
Footballguy
Just ask for extended pandemic unemployment benefits, with the booster, and rent forgiveness in perpetuity. That stuff is the baseline on what the government is giving out.
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whoknew
Footballguy
I think your position is way worse than his. He's looking to the character/actions of the person. You are only judging them on the accident of their birth location - that they were born within some man-made lines on a map.
Shula-holic
Footballguy
So the guy who is essentially being replaced from his home is worse in this scenario? I'm vaxxed but good lord.
whoknew
Footballguy
Ivan didn't say he would kick the anti-vaxxer out. He said he'd rather live next to the Mexican guy. You know, if given the choice.
Rich Conway
Footballguy
No, honestly it's because I find that often politicians didn't actually say what "the other side" says they said. Simple as that. I don't think what Harris said during the debate re: vaccines was problematic in any way, and it absolutely wasn't what the right has claimed she said.
Shula-holic
Footballguy
I'm fine with Ivan, and people can feel the way they want to feel. In fact, I'd make the same statement but instead of the non vaccinated citizens, I'd prefer we ship out the folks sitting at home collecting federally subsidized unemployment instead of taking the $15/hour jobs that people can't hire for. At least I know the Mexicans crossing the border would be happy to work. But here is the sentence referenced, and the phrase "to take the place of" is pretty straightforward.
If somebody from Mexico wants to enter the US, get vaccinated, get a job, and mind his own business otherwise, he's welcome to take the place of a natural-born anti-vaxx citizen.
KarmaPolice
Footballguy
I never saw you agree to that, fwiw. I saw the offer and a comment from you on the lines of "if I thought you were serious...". Maybe I missed something though?
GoBirds
Footballguy
KarmaPolice
Footballguy
It's not cheap or safe for most to get into the country. Maybe a perk, but I don't think a free covid vax would be high on the priority list for reasons people would come here.
Like a lot of things, it would have been a no-win situation. They could have done that from day one, but I am guessing there would have been reactions like "oh, give vaccinations to illegals before your citizens!". Now they could do it because we are beyond the point where people that want one could get one, but still it would probably be spun as flip flopping because they didn't do that from the start.
the rover
Footballguy
for one, it was his entire family that had to get vaccinated and for two he never agreed.
Doug B
Footballguy
... and over again :(
@Ministry of Pain, this one is local to you, I think. It's on your local Fox affiliate:
Desert_Power
Footballguy
I’ll talk from a personal experience as an owner of a daycare/preschool. We have had 4 covid positive teachers and or kids in our preschool since March 2020. It has not spread to anyone and others in the school. Stats show little kids DONT spread it and have an immune system that minimizes covid.
Navin Johnson
Footballguy
God I love the anti-vax crowd. Apparently anecdotes are good enough to establish absolutes but not good enough to refute them.
God you are dead wrong. I’m vaccinated and we paid bonuses to all our employees to get vaccinated. I’m giving you a personal experience and real life statistics support what I’m saying. But you keep living in your world...God I love the anti-vax crowd. Apparently anecdotes are good enough to establish absolutes but not good enough to refute them.
Navin Johnson
Footballguy
No I didn’t. I gave everyone a personal experience which is supported by statistics. Not sure how you came to absolute conclusion..
Navin Johnson
Footballguy
Apparently, the number of GOP State Reps in Texas out with COVID is now up to 10. They have to quarantine for two weeks preventing the quorum needed to pass voter suppression laws for the time being.
Insein
Footballguy
BladeRunner
Footballguy
parasaurolophus
Footballguy
...God I love the anti-vax crowd. Apparently anecdotes are good enough to establish absolutes but not good enough to refute them.
GoBirds
Footballguy
GoBirds
Footballguy
Stealthycat
Footballguy
no, he's looking at a shot (not character and actions ) and its not illegal to not get the shot
its one of the worst things I've read to be honest
I'm shocked at how vile and hateful and mean people have become over this shot - its horrible, its awful
The Z Machine
Footballguy
GoBirds
Footballguy
moleculo
Footballguy
Not really. Anti-shot folks are being criticized for their (in)actions - the shot is free and readily available. It's not like anti-vaxxers were born with brown skin, on the wrong side of an arbitrary border, want to marry people of their own gender, etc.
Insein
Footballguy
"The Leader is good. The Leader is great. We surrender our will as of this date!"
Stealthycat
Footballguy
Stealthycat
Footballguy
illegally here people chose to come, they choose breaking our national laws, endangering their children along the way, bringing who knows how many variants of covid ... they intentionally left their home country behind, their countrymen, threw all their national pride out the window etc ... all that is choice don't say it isn't
judge me based on my decision to not take a non-FDA approved shot but welcome the above instead with open arms
and that's defended on here - just wow, floors me, it really does
but I see the hate everyday, the bullying, the pressure, the discrimination ............ if we could point that towards abortion we could stop hundreds of thousands of babies being killed in the womb every year - what a great thing that'd be huh ?
Sand
Footballguy
AAABatteries
Footballguy
Yeah, I definitely don't agree with this as I'm not seeing that the defendent will be in a forced non-distancing situation.
This makes me curious - are they requiring that inmates get the vaccine?
Navin Johnson
Footballguy
I don't think it is ethical to force it on inmates, although segregating the prison population would be an interesting study
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