Twitter permanently bans Trump

[timschochet 33,373]

This subject is being fiercely debated this morning, as the family of the woman that President Trump is falsely accusing Joe Scarborough of murdering is demanding that Twitter takes action and delete the tweets in question. Should they?

Edited January 9 by timschochet

[The Commish 13,441]

no.  They should sue the #### out of him though.

[timschochet 33,373]

1 minute ago, The Commish said:

no.  They should sue the #### out of him though.

Such a lawsuit would drag out in court forever and do little good. 

[Rich Conway 3,600]

Were I the boss of Twitter, I don't think I would censor such statements.  However, for provable false statements, I would consider implementing a feature that highlights such tweets (and retweets) as false.

[Cjw_55106 5,022]

No....unless they are going to do it to everyone. Yes, I understand that they can do what they want as a private company. 

[SoBeDad 2,250]

No, but members of the Republican party should speak up. But they won't. #BeBest.

Edited May 26, 2020 by SoBeDad

[SaintsInDome2006 47,463]

No. For one thing Trump is in the midst of this humanitarian disaster and is trying to spin his way out of it. He desperately wants to use this to claim censorship and Class-A ####storm, I think Dorsey knows this.

Secondly leaders of countries are public officials, we need to "see" what they are doing.

But there's no question what Trump has done and is doing is violating every letter and ounce of spirit in the user T&C.

What the President of the UNITED STATES is doing to the Klausutis family is disgraceful, both to him personally and us as a country, the world sees what our leader is doing, that is who he is, let them see it.

Edited May 26, 2020 by SaintsInDome2006

[Challenge Everything 428]

19 minutes ago, timschochet said:

Such a lawsuit would drag out in court forever and do little good. 

It may drag out but that is no reason to not follow through on such a lawsuit. The lawsuit would also help highlight defamatory statements and also highlight other statements Trump has made. It may bring others out of the woodwork to stand up to him. The first one through the wall always gets bloody but there has to be a first.

[supermike80 1,431]

Of course not

[Joe Summer 9,489]

Depends on what Trump says. If it's provably false, then it should be deleted.

But if it's just thinly-veiled accusations and opinions, then he shouldn't be treated any differently than any other blowhard on social media.

[Juxtatarot 11,207]

Honestly I think editing and deleting would do more harm than good by leading to more conspiracy theories.

[belljr 10,777]

I think they should do it for everyone

[Drunken Cowboy 1,375]

2 minutes ago, Joe Summer said:

Depends on what Trump says. If it's provably false, then it should be deleted.

But if it's just thinly-veiled accusations and opinions, then he shouldn't be treated any differently than any other blowhard on social media.

I think the problem with this is it would imply un-deleted was confirmed. 

[Drunken Cowboy 1,375]

It is still shocking to me that his supporters allow him to get away with the constant lying. His tweets about Lamb this weekend are not as horrible as the Scarborough ones, but they are really easy to prove are lies. I just can't imagine how someone can swallow this stuff. 

[The General 24,239]

Pretty torn here. It lets people see he's a lunatic. On the other hand many people can't separate the truth from his trolling / his deranged mind.

I'll go with surrounding posts that are fabrications, conspiracy theory, etc in a giant red box or something to obviously flag them.

[Summer Wheat 732]

If the started censoring They would have to shut down Twitter as half the stuff on it is lies BS and gossip anyway.

[Sinn Fein 33,971]

It is obviously a slippery slope, and I would just leave it as - Twitter should treat Trump (or any blue check) the same as everyone else.

 

If Trump sends a tweet that violates the terms and conditions of Twitter, then it should be dealt with by Twitter - otherwise twitter opens themselves up to lawsuits claiming discrimination for disparate treatment.

 

(I offer no opinion on whether his latest tweets (or any tweets) violate the TOS because I have no idea what the TOS are).

 

The reality is Trump drives clicks/eyeballs to twitter, which in turn drive ad-revenue to Twitter - so of course there are different rules for people like Trump.

[whoknew 8,761]

22 minutes ago, Sinn Fein said:

It is obviously a slippery slope, and I would just leave it as - Twitter should treat Trump (or any blue check) the same as everyone else.

 

If Trump sends a tweet that violates the terms and conditions of Twitter, then it should be dealt with by Twitter - otherwise twitter opens themselves up to lawsuits claiming discrimination for disparate treatment.

 

(I offer no opinion on whether his latest tweets (or any tweets) violate the TOS because I have no idea what the TOS are).

 

The reality is Trump drives clicks/eyeballs to twitter, which in turn drive ad-revenue to Twitter - so of course there are different rules for people like Trump.

 

This.

[knowledge dropper 6,444]

35 minutes ago, Summer Wheat said:

If the started censoring They would have to shut down Twitter as half the stuff on it is lies BS and gossip anyway.

End of thread.  

[SaintsInDome2006 47,463]

7 minutes ago, knowledge dropper said:

End of thread.  

You do agree that the slurs about Klausitis by the President are lies, BS & gossip then apparently. I think it's worse but I'll take it.

[knowledge dropper 6,444]

2 minutes ago, SaintsInDome2006 said:

You do agree that the slurs about Klausitis by the President are lies, BS & gossip then apparently. I think it's worse but I'll take it.

 I don’t know as much about the case as our President who has all levels of law enforcement data at his disposal.  

[SaintsInDome2006 47,463]

1 minute ago, knowledge dropper said:

 I don’t know as much about the case as our President who has all levels of law enforcement data at his disposal.  

You can take Lori Klausutis's husband's word for it.

[knowledge dropper 6,444]

3 minutes ago, SaintsInDome2006 said:

You can take Lori Klausutis's husband's word for it.

Fainted, hit her head on the desk and died in Morning Joe’s office?

Sounds plausible.  

[The Commish 13,441]

1 hour ago, timschochet said:

Such a lawsuit would drag out in court forever and do little good. 

I don't really care how long it drags out...a point should be made and an example set.  I don't care if it moves the needle with his minions or not.

[SaintsInDome2006 47,463]

1 minute ago, knowledge dropper said:

Fainted, hit her head on the desk and died in Morning Joe’s office?

Sounds plausible.  

With a heart condition it is, very. - You're accusing Lori Klausitis of an affair as well, yes?

[The Commish 13,441]

1 hour ago, SoBeDad said:

No, but members of the Republican party should speak up. But they won't. #BeBest.

yeah...this ship sailed.  Reason #11098234 I feel the party bailed on me and left me in the dust in their sprint to Trumpism.

[knowledge dropper 6,444]

1 minute ago, SaintsInDome2006 said:

With a heart condition it is, very. - You're accusing Lori Klausitis of an affair as well, yes?

Not at all.  It’s not unheard of for 28 year olds have this type of issue.  Very tragic.  

[SaintsInDome2006 47,463]

Just now, knowledge dropper said:

Not at all.  It’s not unheard of for 28 year olds have this type of issue.  Very tragic.  

No, it's not. My cousin died of having a hole in his heart. His whole family had to have surgery to repair it. Yes, it is a thing.

[knowledge dropper 6,444]

5 minutes ago, SaintsInDome2006 said:

No, it's not. My cousin died of having a hole in his heart. His whole family had to have surgery to repair it. Yes, it is a thing.

So does my son

[The Commish 13,441]

7 minutes ago, SaintsInDome2006 said:

No, it's not. My cousin died of having a hole in his heart. His whole family had to have surgery to repair it. Yes, it is a thing.

There are several common genetic anomalies that cause these sorts of things.  Is the argument that there aren't?

[TLEF316 4,929]

The fact that this is even being discussed is so unbelievably sad.

Abraham Lincoln sat in that office.

[SaintsInDome2006 47,463]

15 minutes ago, knowledge dropper said:

So does my son

Thank you, and my sincere best regards. We lost a 2nd cousin, my uncle's son and a daughter, in their 20s, and my aunt through the course of it.

Now imagine the rage this family must feel, the absolute powerlessness at the cruelty, of the world's most powerful man blasting out sheer lies to his 80 million+ followers about their daughter and wife and aunt not only being murdered but being in an affair. Imagine the nieces and nephews reading this sick crap one day, maybe hearing about it at school. This will never, ever go away.

Edited May 26, 2020 by SaintsInDome2006

[The General 24,239]

52 minutes ago, knowledge dropper said:

1 hour ago, Summer Wheat said:

If the started censoring They would have to shut down Twitter as half the stuff on it is lies BS and gossip anyway.

End of thread.  

It's pretty crazy that every few days we can't differentiate between our POTUS and some bot/troll account.

[Challenge Everything 428]

41 minutes ago, knowledge dropper said:

Fainted, hit her head on the desk and died in Morning Joe’s office?

Sounds plausible.  

Deplorable statement.

[knowledge dropper 6,444]

1 minute ago, Challenge Everything said:

Deplorable statement.

How so?

[[scooter] 14,071]

3 minutes ago, knowledge dropper said:

4 minutes ago, Challenge Everything said:

Deplorable statement.

How so?

For the same reason that a Trump supporter might say it was deplorable if someone used the phrase "died at Trump's apartment" to describe someone who died in one of the apartment units owned by Trump Inc.

[knowledge dropper 6,444]

16 minutes ago, [scooter] said:

For the same reason that a Trump supporter might say it was deplorable if someone used the phrase "died at Trump's apartment" to describe someone who died in one of the apartment units owned by Trump Inc.

Wasn’t it a fact?

[SaintsInDome2006 47,463]

37 minutes ago, knowledge dropper said:

Wasn’t it a fact?

The plausible part, yes. It sounded sarcastic but I’m guessing you’re saying you weren’t.

Edited May 26, 2020 by SaintsInDome2006

[Ilov80s 29,262]

3 hours ago, timschochet said:

Such a lawsuit would drag out in court forever and do little good. 

and would guarantee that Trump would tweet about it for years. Just what every family wants, a President publicly harassing them about their dead daughter for 2 years. 

[Ilov80s 29,262]

1 hour ago, SaintsInDome2006 said:

With a heart condition it is, very. - You're accusing Lori Klausitis of an affair as well, yes?

Sergei Grinkov died at 28 due to an unknown birth defect. He was a multi-time Olympic champion and seemingly as healthy as any 28 year old on the planet. It's rare but absolutely happens. 

[Ilov80s 29,262]

3 hours ago, timschochet said:

This subject is being fiercely debated this morning, as the family of the woman that President Trump is falsely accusing Joe Scarborough of murdering is demanding that Twitter takes action and delete the tweets in question. Should they?

He should have his account suspended.

[SaintsInDome2006 47,463]

18 minutes ago, Ilov80s said:

Sergei Grinkov died at 28 due to an unknown birth defect. He was a multi-time Olympic champion and seemingly as healthy as any 28 year old on the planet. It's rare but absolutely happens. 

Thank you. Klausutis was 28, and my cousin was 28 going on 29.

Edited May 26, 2020 by SaintsInDome2006

[Ilov80s 29,262]

3 hours ago, Cjw_55106 said:

No....unless they are going to do it to everyone. Yes, I understand that they can do what they want as a private company. 

He violates their terms and conditions regularly. He is not being treated like everyone else, he has been given a free pass by Twitter. 

[Ilov80s 29,262]

1 hour ago, knowledge dropper said:

 I don’t know as much about the case as our President who has all levels of law enforcement data at his disposal.  

Even if he has actual inside info from LEAs, there couldn't possibly be a worse way of handling it. 

[sho nuff 16,582]

30 minutes ago, Ilov80s said:

Even if he has actual inside info from LEAs, there couldn't possibly be a worse way of handling it. 

Inside info..indicating guilt...yet we see no arrest?  
He has no inside info...just a way to deflect from actually criticizing the awful behavior.

[giantcookie 149]

https://twitter.com/Cernovich/status/1265364430717456386

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Trump hasn't accused Joe Scarborough of murder. He's just asking questions, same as Joe and Jake and Maddow do every day. "Is Trump a Russian spy? Has General Flynn committed treason? Do they all pee on each other in hotels? Who knows? We're just looking into it!"

 

[Ilov80s 29,262]

2 minutes ago, sho nuff said:

Inside info..indicating guilt...yet we see no arrest?  
He has no inside info...just a way to deflect from actually criticizing the awful behavior.

I am sure he doesn't and I agree that this is just something he saw on TV and he doesn't like Joe so it gives him ammo. Plus it makes for a nice distraction. However, sometimes LEO will be pretty sure about a certain case but not have the evidence to issue a warrant. I was just saying, even one actually believes Trump knows something here, in no way does that excuse his horrible tweets. 

[Ilov80s 29,262]

1 minute ago, giantcookie said:

https://twitter.com/Cernovich/status/1265364430717456386

 

He is the President of the United States, not a talk tv show host. 

[giantcookie 149]

1 minute ago, Ilov80s said:

He is the President of the United States, not a talk tv show host. 

He isn't tweeting anything untruthful, just asking questions buddy.

[giantcookie 149]

4 hours ago, timschochet said:

This subject is being fiercely debated this morning, as the family of the woman that President Trump is falsely accusing Joe Scarborough of murdering is demanding that Twitter takes action and delete the tweets in question. Should they?

Your post should be censored and fixed, so your entire thread isn't based on a lie. Trump is asking questions, not accusing him of murder.