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dutch said:
Joe censors this board and has made it clear that certain types of posting arre off limits, twitter is entitled to the same right and as a Twitter follower I am glad they are making the attempt to make the person occupying the oval office adhere to be the guidelines theyve set.
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The problem is that you cant sensor opinions. Trump would only have to phrase things in a way to get around it. 

And joe has already stated the moderation around here is hard and not always worth the hassle. 

And I'm also replying to this as if you censor trump, every verified user needs to be censored as well. 

 
dutch said:
Joe censors this board and has made it clear that certain types of posting arre off limits, twitter is entitled to the same right and as a Twitter follower I am glad they are making the attempt to make the person occupying the oval office adhere to be the guidelines theyve set.
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Hypothetical: If Trump posted here how many timeouts would he have by now?

 
Max Power said:
The problem is that you cant sensor opinions. Trump would only have to phrase things in a way to get around it. 

And joe has already stated the moderation around here is hard and not always worth the hassle. 

And I'm also replying to this as if you censor trump, every verified user needs to be censored as well. 
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They didn’t censor Trump. They put a note saying he is full of it on this. 

Perfectly acceptable.

 
There was an error in Twitter's fact check of Trump's vote-by-mail tweets, underscoring the challenge social media platforms face trying to arbitrate truth. 

It was corrected after an elections professional notified the company (and me) about the mistake.https://t.co/bQmfZc8pBm pic.twitter.com/6IoeSzlXpq 

— Dustin Volz (@dnvolz) May 27, 2020

 
It makes the Left look soooo weak!

They can't beat him themselves so they call in "big tech" to help out.

Of all the tweets they could speak out on...they pick the one concerning, mail in voting.

No fact checking on Schiff during his constant lying about Russian collusion.
No fact checking on the Chinese bots about the COVID-19 numbers

Trump mentions mail in voting.....it's "bring all guns to bear"

It is so obvious, it's laughable.

 
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The General said:
He made clearly false statements. If you want to dispute that you have an issue with the truth.
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Like the endless list of all the false statements Schiff and the Democrats made about Russian collusion?

 
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Opie said:
Perfectly acceptable that he is fact-checked by Twitter by using CNN and the WAPO as the "fact-checkers"?

...hardly.
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Yes...its perfectly acceptable that he gets fact checked as long as those facts are done with, you know, facts.  Doesn't matter if its from Fox or WashPo (who does quite well with fact checks despite Trump's complaints).

 
Opie said:
It makes the Left look soooo weak!

They can't beat him themselves so they call in "big tech" to help out.

Of all the tweets they could speak out on...they pick the one concerning, mail in voting.

No fact checking on Schiff during his constant lying about Russian collusion.
No fact checking on the Chinese bots about the COVID-19 numbers

Trump mentions mail in voting.....it's "bring all guns to bear"

It is so obvious, it's laughable.
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The left?  

I think the fact that being fact checked bothers him so much...makes Trump weak (not just look weak...but actually makes him weak).

Who called on "big tech" to help anyone?

Well, his tweets on mail in voting have been false...so yes, those got checked.

Ahh...whataboutism is always a great defense.

 Obvious is the deflection Trump and his supporters continue to use on this...

 
Max Power said:
The problem is that you cant sensor opinions. Trump would only have to phrase things in a way to get around it. 

And joe has already stated the moderation around here is hard and not always worth the hassle. 

And I'm also replying to this as if you censor trump, every verified user needs to be censored as well. 
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The flip side of that argument is you're basically saying the Government should be able to freely use private social media to deliver propaganda to the American people. 

 
Max Power said:
Did you miss the post a couple up? Twitter has admitted it was an error now. 
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Their corrections don't negate the main point that Trump lied. The edit they made was to correct their assertion that Nebraska votes entirely by mail, Nebraska does not vote entirely by mail so they changed the language they used in that section to read:

"Five states already vote entirely by mail and and all states offer some form of mail-in absentee ballot voting, according to NBC news."
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Trumps statement about rigged elections, election fraud etc. due to vote by mail are predominantly false, and intended to exert undue influence on opinion to give him unfair advantage in the next election. He needs to be held accountable for such dishonesty, better for Twitter to call him out on it, even if sloppily at first, than to let it go unchallenged.

 
Jackstraw said:
The flip side of that argument is you're basically saying the Government should be able to freely use private social media to deliver propaganda to the American people. 
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With CNN, FOX, MSNBC we really don`t need social media to deliver propaganda the American people.  They do a pretty good job on their own.

 
They didn't censor him

And I have zero issue blocking disabling censoring people they feel breaks their terms of service.  (I.e influencing elections)

I don't care who it is

 
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Da Guru said:
With CNN, FOX, MSNBC we really don`t need social media to deliver propaganda the American people.  They do a pretty good job on their own.
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Look you can quibble with the other two but I see this argument as basically a both sides argument to let Fox off the hook. I mean you are actively less informed watching them. I know what I sewe with my own two eyes and Fox is atrocious. Borderline kabuki theater. 

 
Opie said:
So....I guess that everything Twitter DOESN'T 'fact check"....should be taken as the truth?
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Twitter and other social media platforms will be haunted by the authority U.S. Code § 230....something they will all regret....guaranteed.

Good job, Twitter...you may as well shut down right now.

Not being a Twitter user....I couldn't care less but it will be fun to watch them try to backtrack.

 
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Max Power said:
Mass scale mail in ballots will increase the risk of fraud. 
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Yes, but cases of actual fraud involving mail in ballots are extremely rare. And many states, like California have used absentee ballots for decades and Republicans were the ones who used it the most with almost no instances of voter fraud. 

 
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squistion said:
Yes, but cases of actual fraud involving mail in ballots are extremely rare. And many states, like California have used absentee ballots for decades and Republicans were the ones who used it the most with almost no instances of voter fraud. 
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Did California just mail all ballots out or did they require someone to request a ballot to be mailed?

 
Max Power said:
Mass scale mail in ballots will increase the risk of fraud. 
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I don't understand this mindset.  I have ONLY voted by mail for 23 years now.  That's our only option in Oregon.  I have never heard a single resident here even once complain about fraud or hold any dubious beliefs about using a mail-in ballot to vote.  It's actually quite enjoyable.  I get my ballot, sit down with a cup of coffee, read all the materials they send with it and vote accordingly.  

How is taking time off work, waiting in a line and doing it in a booth better than that?   

 
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sho nuff said:
The left?  

I think the fact that being fact checked bothers him so much...makes Trump weak (not just look weak...but actually makes him weak).

Who called on "big tech" to help anyone?

Well, his tweets on mail in voting have been false...so yes, those got checked.

Ahh...whataboutism is always a great defense.

 Obvious is the deflection Trump and his supporters continue to use on this...
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Ahh...whataboutism ....the points that consistently expose the hypocrisy of the Left  and they always fail to confront.

 
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Opie said:
Ahh...whataboutism ....the points that consistently expose the hypocrisy of the Left  and they always fail to confront.
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You haven't actually exposed any hypocrisy...just claims that someone else was lying and complaints that they weren't fact checked (and someone pointed out earlier one of the complaints  you had was actually fact checked)

 
sho nuff said:
You haven't actually exposed any hypocrisy...just claims that someone else was lying and complaints that they weren't fact checked (and someone pointed out earlier one of the complaints  you had was actually fact checked)
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Sure....no hypocrisy here.    :coffee:

 
hxperson said:
If social media companies lose their liability shield, could that extend to FBG being liable for anything libelous anyone posts on these boards?
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I don't see very much "fact checking" going on around here....just a lot of time-outs.

But....If so....Good-bye forum....and thank you, Twitter.

 
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