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***Official 2020 Election General*** (2 Viewers)
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Footballguy
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Footballguy
As your self-appointed Philly beat writer, I just got back from the Convention Center. Tons of news vans
Trump supporters are right in front of the CC. A few Trump/Pence signs and one handwritten Stop The Steal. A woman was screaming into a bullhorn, but I couldn't understand her.
Count Every Vote on the other side and spilling down the cross street. Different clergy are speaking. Selling a lot of Count Every Vote sweatshirts. This crowd is larger. but neither is super huge. The sides aren't "interacting" just doing their thing.
Trump supporters are right in front of the CC. A few Trump/Pence signs and one handwritten Stop The Steal. A woman was screaming into a bullhorn, but I couldn't understand her.
Count Every Vote on the other side and spilling down the cross street. Different clergy are speaking. Selling a lot of Count Every Vote sweatshirts. This crowd is larger. but neither is super huge. The sides aren't "interacting" just doing their thing.
Yankee23Fan
Fair Tax!
I"m sorry but this is too much:
John Santucci @Santucci
12m
Vibe in the President’s inner circle this morning is a bit of a stalemate. Many discussions of what to do next & they are splitting into two roads. (1) what legal challenges are possible (2) dusting off the plans for a “Trump TV” like network should this end
ohn Santucci @Santucci
8m
On life after, anger at Fox / Murdoch family cannot be understated. Should he lose, Trump wants to destroy Fox - aides believe they can steal hosts Hannity & Carlson. Sources believe Trump will never admit he lost should we get there - instead stick with “rigged” “fraud” “stolen”
John Santucci @Santucci
12m
Vibe in the President’s inner circle this morning is a bit of a stalemate. Many discussions of what to do next & they are splitting into two roads. (1) what legal challenges are possible (2) dusting off the plans for a “Trump TV” like network should this end
ohn Santucci @Santucci
8m
On life after, anger at Fox / Murdoch family cannot be understated. Should he lose, Trump wants to destroy Fox - aides believe they can steal hosts Hannity & Carlson. Sources believe Trump will never admit he lost should we get there - instead stick with “rigged” “fraud” “stolen”
pantherclub
Footballguy
Capella
Footballguy
pantherclub
Footballguy
Yankee23Fan
Fair Tax!
Another small PA report - Biden now up by just under 10K
Boston
Footballguy
Capella
Footballguy
Bottomfeeder Sports
Footballguy
This is a non sequitur. I didn't say anything about what this election means to you, to me, to anyone. I said that the GOP is seldom punished for misbehavior and even when it is it is short lived. While Trump seems to be being voted out in a narrow fashion (at least in key electoral battleground states) the GOP otherwise won more than they lost this time around. I don't want to belabor this point any more, but I think expecting that voters would punish the GOP for additional antics between now and 1/20 is just not likely. No matter how new and abhorrent. The GOP getting away with type of stuff is normal. It is not what I want. If I am wish casting I'm hoping for the future results you and @mr roboto asserted. I want to be wrong. I want a new normal where the uncompromising, "winning", "all is fair" behavior is punished for a change. I just don't see it. Sorry to be a killjoy, to be a pessimist at this moment. Let us pray that you are right and this time is different. Please! Pretty please! A cherry on top!
Capella
Footballguy
He doesn’t have the money. Somebody could fund it for him and brand his name on it I guess.
2Squirrels1Nut
Footballguy
I don't think his normal lenders will be interested in giving him any more money now that he can't help them.
Chaz McNulty
Footballguy
This would be awesome! But if they release those two from their contracts early, they should make him take Laura Ingraham and Judge Judy also. That would be a fair exchange.
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ConnSKINS26
Footballguy
Right. The modern Republican Party has shown over and over it has no qualms about weakening and outright attacking foundational rights and institutions of this democracy. No, it’s never been perfect. But they’ve done their damnedest to turn it into a joke, a banana republic. It wasn’t just Trump at all, it was the entire party, and they got their constituents on board, no matter the cost. This isn’t just going to go away with Trump, and they have not been held accountable for this at all—they pretty much held steady or gained everywhere that isn’t the presidency, despite everything. Things are not just going to “go back to normal” (maybe for some of you, if you’re privileged enough to be able to stop caring again) now. And that’s setting aside their current narrative that this is essentially a coup, an illegal and stolen election. If they don’t let that go in a matter of days, it’s going to be even worse than I’ve already alluded to. American politics, and the dynamic between the Republican Party and all of our institutions, is forever changed.
Insein
Footballguy
fatguyinalittlecoat
Footballguy
He should start by telling all his supporters not to vote in the Georgia Senate runoffs. That’ll show’em!
gianmarco
Footballguy
Is that supposed to be a negative?
You still have to request a mail in ballot and take time to get it done.
And there's a pandemic.
What are you trying to accomplish with this post?
Long Ball Larry
Footballguy
ConnSKINS26
Footballguy
Wasn’t he the one posting yesterday that if this keeps up, Pandora’s Box will be open and democracy will be doomed bc everyone will be able to vote in huge droves by mail every election? Or am I mixing him up with someone else
Alex P Keaton
Footballguy
2Squirrels1Nut
Footballguy
2Squirrels1Nut
Footballguy
El Floppo
Footballguy
I think his main points have been skepticism at the projected percentage of remaining votes changing and being so heavily skewed to democrats. I don't recall anything about mail-in votes...but I'm not a regular here, so grains of salt and all
skol asylum
Footballguy
Yep. Downright embarrassing and not more than a little frightening. Tribalism lives on.
Nick Vermeil
Footballguy
ConnSKINS26
Footballguy
Yes. He’s changed the Republican Party forever, but he personally will be irrelevant other than some wacko cultists very soon. Look at Romney. He disappeared completely for a while. They welcomed him back like a favored uncle who hadn’t come to thanksgiving in a while, but can you tell he’s the man and the engine that the entire multi-billion dollar Republican machine supported less than a decade ago? No, not at all. And he’s actually fairly respected.
skol asylum
Footballguy
Will Fox News be the first to call PA and Biden as the winner?
Maik Jeaunz
Footballguy
assuming Joe holds on to win, and regardless what shenanigans may occur over the next 2 months, the Democrats need to do some hard analysis on why someone like Trump was able to gain the support of almost half the country, and address it within the next 4 years. or we could be right back here again.
apalmer
Footballguy
Don't Toews Me
Footballguy
Which I don't think they will. Spanberger was livid over this on the Dem caucus call yesterday. Pelosi is now saying "Biden has a bigger mandate than JFK."
The wrong lessons will be drawn.
Don't Toews Me
Footballguy
Either that or they called it far too early without definitive evidence and got lucky. Don't know which. These guys have data I don't.
NYT usually goes with AP's calls but they had a piece out yesterday saying why they didn't AZ to Biden when the AP did.
General Malaise
Footballguy
Do these same people vote for him if he runs as a third party in 2024? Man, that would be wild.
Chaz McNulty
Footballguy
Trumps suing strategy involves tying up cases in the courts so that the other party eventually gives up or settles for less. He's not used to one-day turnarounds on frivolous lawsuits. Someone needs to tell him that strategy isn't going to work this time.
Mile High
Footballguy
Americans problem isn't political it's culture. The two sides don't even believe in the same things anymore. You can't vote that away. That's why (kinda of jokingly) this country needs a divorce. This is a marriage that has gone bad.
General Malaise
Footballguy
Just have the State of Oregon run the country's election. We've been voting by mail exclusively since 1998. It's glorious and it's accurate and it's the way it should be done country wide.
Steve Tasker
Footballguy
Someone's gonna write a best-seller tell-all book about what it was like being in the Trump inner-circle for the few days leading up to election day, and the few days in the aftermath. I don't read political books, but I might pick that one up.
Steve Tasker
Footballguy
Agreed. Trump might be gone if these results hold, but the rhetoric is here to stay. Make no mistake about it - the GOP did very well in this election, despite potentially losing the presidency. "Trumpism" isn't going away anytime soon. This election result appears to be a repudiation of Trump the person, not "Trumpism" the political philosophy.
moleculo
Footballguy
it's not even that. It's a repudiation in urban areas for sure but an embrace in rural.
JAA
Footballguy
Ive enjoyed both Fear and Rage as well as Mary Trumps book. Worth the reads/listens.
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