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And now up over 27,000 votes and past the automatic recount threshhold.
I was going to point this out last night but it's not that farfetched that Georgia would vote for Democratic Senators. Yes, it had been like 20 years but we had Sam Nunn and Max Cleland.
What's amazing is you type this up before the craziness of the last 3 hours. I agree with you.
I hope that after the disaster of this afternoon, you're very wrong about the GOP. I hope enough people saw the crazy that Trump has wrought and reject Trumpismo.IvanKaramazov said:
IK and I are on the same page with the future of the GOP. I think if anything he is underselling it. The GOP is the people who stormed the Capital. I think most Trump voters watched on TV and were upset that they didn't do more.
I don’t believe this.
I think this is wishful thinking on your part. I see no evidence of this. Nearly 75 million voted for Trump. Trump's approval among GOP voters is still ridiculously high. The GOP platform this year was Trump.
Let’s see what that approval rating is after today, or better yet a month from now.
I feel bad for the people who are so gripped with fear, and so afraid of everything, that they would support this man just because he talks tough. He's the biggest coward of them all.
Liberals are out to get him. Republicans are out to get him. His own cabinet is out to get him. The media is out to get him. Members of his family are out to get him. Big Tech is out to get him. Judges he appointed are out to get him. Bill Barr is the enemy. Kelly Loeffler, whose entire campaign platform has literally been "I support Trump", didn't support him enough. Mike Pence is the enemy. Did I miss anyone (I'm certain I missed a bunch)?
She was going to defend him in the senate voting yesterday. When they came back last night, she didn’t.
Trump never got above 50% approval or below 35%. I think his approval will plummet and so will Trump brand in the coming months and years. His only shot in 2024 is for the economy to tank, and even then it would be a long shot. Trump's roles in losing the Senate and the occupation of the Capitol, which led to a tragic death, will not be forgotten.
This. I think it also goes for Ivanka and Don Jr. as well. Jr. could find a safe House District; move there and win.....but he's not getting above minor House member.....and that might not be worth the trouble for him. The Trump brand will be able to muster 25% for the next 10-15 years......but they're done as a serious contender to the POTUS desk.
His approval rating will be meaningless once he's out of office. This constituency that hitched their wagon to his star, because he tells them everything they want to hear, still exists, it's just waiting to be exploited by the next demagogue, and as we can see there are plenty of folks working to fill that role right now.
I've been also saying this for years. Both sides need to get younger with their candidates. At least how about an under of 110?
Most presidents, even unpopular ones, will see a boost in their approval rating during their lame duck period. Obama went from 53% to 59%; George H.W. Bush went from 34% to 56%; even Carter went from 31% to 34%.
I think it's easy if we only have friends who think like us to see that retweet or screenshot of someone's social media postings to make us think those who disagree with us are all backing some extreme vision.
https://assets.morningconsult.com/wp-uploads/2021/01/07135439/210121_crosstabs_POLITICO_RVs_v1.pdf
447 pages is a lot to digest. I looked at a couple of the questions and it was pretty accurate I thought. Are there a couple that stand out to you?
Around 215ish are who people feel is responsible for yesterday's action.Shula-holic said:
Nah. This is like that period after the Access Hollywood tape, when so many 'normal' Republicans felt social guilt for supporting a guy that bragged about sexual assault. Eventually, they all realized that deep down, they were fine with the sexual assault, and they opened up.
I don't think so. First, there's the unprecedented nature of what happened. Second, Trump will be out of office so no one needs to be supportive of him (not like before with, "yeah, he's a low class guy, but we need a Republican in the WH").
Trump himself will leave, but 'Trumpismo' isn't. He was always just a symptom, and I dont think anything there has changed.
That it takes orchestrating an assault on our Capitol, in disruption of the election, to move the needle is why I disagree with your take. Not that I even agree it will move the needle below 40%; probably 75% for Republicans. 75 million votes after these past 4 years shocks the conscience.
Alabama did the same thing when Doug Jones won. They stopped special elections so now the governor chooses replacements outside election season.AAABatteries said:
That's probably the scarier scenario...Trump fades away, but left behind is a new wave of Trump-wannabes with all their extremism. :shudder:
No they shouldn't. Until election day is a federal holiday that everyone gets paid time off for, there should be universal mail in voting.
When Sessions became AG, Luther Strange was appointed by then Gov. Bentley. He was in that seat that Doug Jones eventually won. There were many reasons Strange lost. The most resonating to me was the stain from being appointed by a governor who had to resign and then the fact that Roy Moore always has his steady bedrock of support here.
I'm on board with this. Make POTUS elections only a Federal Holiday. It's once every four years. All other elections you can make time during your workday or before.
This seems silly. Either voting is important or it isn't. My vote is far less likely to matter in the POTUS election than in more local races. Senate and House positions aren't important enough that we should vote? Governor and mayor aren't important enough?
Good point. Make it all elections!
Doesn't that fly in the face of states' rights?Good point. Make it all elections!
However, I still want a standard set of rules across the board that we can all agree on (for POTUS only).
At least for congressional elections, congress has the power to "make or alter" rules. The purpose, though, is exactly the opposite. Rather than suppress votes by imposing a voter ID requirement or other roadblocks to voting, the elections clause was drafted to prevent states from enacting unfair laws that would suppress voting or favor certain candidates. No such authority exists for presidential elections.
