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Jealous. I’d love a cold shower about now.Just got water back for first time since Monday afternoon.
That was the best cold shower ever.
No power sucked.. no water just amplified it x10000.
Jealous. I’d love a cold shower about now.Just got water back for first time since Monday afternoon.
That was the best cold shower ever.
No power sucked.. no water just amplified it x10000.
We are noticing some oddities. We never lost water. But now that we are back in the house and I actually took a shower here, I can tell pressure was a little low. Not real bad, but not full pressure. And the wife said the toilet "made noise" when she flushed. I am assuming it was air. I had unplugged the softener and bypassed that. I'm not sure if that is a player or not. But I have checked everything in and around the house (except the attic which I see being mentioned here) and have seen no leaks evident anywhere. Not sure what else I can/should do?culdeus said:Feel like things are still a little funky water wise. Air getting in the lines. Sort of a delay in getting things to cut on. Not sure if that's pressure or ice related.
We went and got some hot food from a takeout place today. I ran to the grocery store early to start restocking. Just that little bit of normalcy made us feel worlds better. We now have a fairly fully stocked freezer, milk, eggs, bread, etc. Things are getting better for sure.Mrs. Rannous said:I'm so sorry you feel so awful. This has been the giant suck.
At least you didn't have to give birth in a house with no power or water.
Anyone?Mr.Pack said:Anyone near or in Pearland? My God-Daughter lives there and I haven't heard from her.
Stupid ###.Pure luck... I'd say every other house on my road had any number of issues with flooding or water heaters or attic/roof leaking.
Far as I can tell I'm looking no worse for the wear. Of course typing this wasn't a smart move.
LinkCould someone break down how this griddy thing is causing peoples bills go from $200 to $3000
Basically, they screw up - we pay for it.But longer term, she said the power crisis will likely turn into an affordability crisis. The supply chain is bogged down, causing the prices providers pay to spike.
"We saw prices increase initially 7,000% then 10,000% then I thought I saw 16,000%. This is going to be a huge issue for the state,” Gold-Williams said.
Yeah it's just the kind of thing that should be a half-day job. So hopefully shut it off, fix it, turn it on. Fingers crossed, it likely won't work out like that.I have to think you'll lose water in this as the city gets to you. Nobody with a serious water main break has avoided that.
But that's what I don't understand, why is it fluctuating? I pay a fixed rate for my services. Why is it fluctuating for some users?
I dunno.But that's what I don't understand, why is it fluctuating? I pay a fixed rate for my services. Why is it fluctuating for some users?
Griddy is literally just allowing you access to the wholesale market.Could someone break down how this griddy thing is causing peoples bills go from $200 to $3000
Griddy charges market prices - the market goes wacky because power is scarce ...that cost gets passed onto their customers.Thanks, I guess I just didn't understand the concept. I pay the same price no matter what. Now it could go up but I'm notified if a change happens but it doesn't fluctuate. I guess it's similar to here, about 5 years ago? They allowed consumers to pick their supplier, the thing is I'd still have the same provider but I'd be paying this other supplier. So we would get flooded with people trying to switch us to this other company.
The first year we'd pay x which was 4 cents less than we pay now. I'm sure after that year it would be double... I just stayed with the gas/electric company.
Only thing I can think of in terms of turning water back on after it was drained would be if you had some water in the line at a low point that froze, obviously that one little part would not be enough to burst the line, but if it was a complete blockage, turning the water on full blast could cause the air in the line to over pressurize as the water was forced into the pipe and blow something out.If you drain the lines, there's not enough water left to expand and burst the pipes. As for turning the water back on, you have to do as needed - then bleed them again. It sucks, but it's better than a flooded house.
I too pay the same price no matter what. Most people do.Thanks, I guess I just didn't understand the concept. I pay the same price no matter what. Now it could go up but I'm notified if a change happens but it doesn't fluctuate. I guess it's similar to here, about 5 years ago? They allowed consumers to pick their supplier, the thing is I'd still have the same provider but I'd be paying this other supplier. So we would get flooded with people trying to switch us to this other company.
The first year we'd pay x which was 4 cents less than we pay now. I'm sure after that year it would be double... I just stayed with the gas/electric company.
Water pressure will likely be somewhat low for a few days. Water mains may be broken, and house pipes all over town are broken. I see on the news that Firefighters in San Antonio had water problems because some of the hydrants didn't have water. It's just a general thing. If your house is running normally at this point, you are probably okay.We are noticing some oddities. We never lost water. But now that we are back in the house and I actually took a shower here, I can tell pressure was a little low. Not real bad, but not full pressure. And the wife said the toilet "made noise" when she flushed. I am assuming it was air. I had unplugged the softener and bypassed that. I'm not sure if that is a player or not. But I have checked everything in and around the house (except the attic which I see being mentioned here) and have seen no leaks evident anywhere. Not sure what else I can/should do?
I also pay the same price no matter what. (We use Centerpoint.) But you can sign up for the spot price market. When the price of electricity is low, you can save quite a bit. But it's like roulette- if the price goes up, you pay more. If the price goes apecrap nuts, you pay a crapton more. I'm not sure how many people got that bit. I went for the price is locked-in option.Thanks, I guess I just didn't understand the concept. I pay the same price no matter what.
That sounds so crazy to be picking utilty options for your residence. I kinda like my socialist situation where I have only one well-regulated choice.I also pay the same price no matter what. (We use Centerpoint.) But you can sign up for the spot price market. When the price of electricity is low, you can save quite a bit. But it's like roulette- if the price goes up, you pay more. If the price goes apecrap nuts, you pay a crapton more. I'm not sure how many people got that bit. I went for the price is locked-in option.
Plumbers have been scarce in Austin for the past 10+ years due to the new construction that is ongoing from everyone moving here. Especially hard to find when you have an emergency. You might get priority service if you sign up for an annual service plan, which is probably a couple hundred $.culdeus said:I am really worried about the reports of pipe thaw/burst that is ongoing. I know of several people severely impacted with water shutoff to homes. Plumbers don't even want to get started until the ambient is above 50 (Sat PM) and the wait lists are 600-1000 people deep.
I don't know where people are seeing the pipe issues, maybe Dallas is different than other parts of the state.
It shouldn't change, and it isn't price gouging. If you had access to wholesale, you literally bypassed the traditional consumer market, and all the protections it comes with. We don't protect people who short gamestop if the price skyrockets.Seems like price gouging to allow that kind of price increase, especially during a crisis when they aren't even providing adequate supply. I have a feeling this will change in the future as a result of what's happened.
Sorry, just now catching up on the thread and saw your post. I am in Pearland. How can I help? I’ll DM you my cell number.Anyone?
The question really is, does the free market for electricity need to look like a meme stonk?It shouldn't change, and it isn't price gouging. If you had access to wholesale, you literally bypassed the traditional consumer market, and all the protections it comes with. We don't protect people who short gamestop if the price skyrockets.
You obviously are more familiar with this than I am so I'll defer to your knowledge on this.It shouldn't change, and it isn't price gouging. If you had access to wholesale, you literally bypassed the traditional consumer market, and all the protections it comes with. We don't protect people who short gamestop if the price skyrockets.
With Griddy it's uncapped. Completely. There is no limit, if the price is eleventy billion a kwh, you get that price.You obviously are more familiar with this than I am so I'll defer to your knowledge on this.
Is there a limit to how high they can charge? I mean, I think I get the overall concept of how this works and what you're describing, and I don't have an issue with the price increase. My issue, based on what I've seen posted here and read briefly is the amount of the price increase. It seems like an unreasonable amount. Especially in a situation like this where it's a crisis and there's a desperate need.
Seems others think changes will be discussed.It shouldn't change, and it isn't price gouging. If you had access to wholesale, you literally bypassed the traditional consumer market, and all the protections it comes with. We don't protect people who short gamestop if the price skyrockets.
Ok, slow down a bit. (speaking to griddy) When the prices went up the price you paid for the electricity at that moment went up. If you were, in fact browned out or turned down your power usage you would have had minimal impact.Seems others think changes will be discussed.
I mean, a 338-fold increase in price seems absurd. If my normal electric bill was $50 for a month, that would go up to $16,900 for the month. That's simply not right, IMO.
Yes, this could have downstream impacts because the fixed rate operators got charged the griddy rates for someone like me that was sold 8c kwh (while my power was actually on....) and they got the $5 kwh charge on it.Texas operates an independent grid closed off from the rest of the country. On Wednesday, power prices in Dallas and Fort Worth hit $8,800 per megawatt-hour (MWh), compared with the more typical average of roughly $26 per MWh. Over time, the state's grid operator, the Electric Reliability Council of Texas (ERCOT), could impose higher costs to consumers to prepare for subsequent, similar events.
"The wholesale market is allowing record high prices, and those record high prices are eventually going to be paid for by end-consumers," said Tyson Slocum, director of the energy program for Public Citizen, a consumer advocacy organization.
Blackouts instituted by ERCOT as electric heating demand exceeded forecasts and overwhelmed generation have brought the state's deregulated electricity market sharply into focus.
"Debates about electric policy and energy policy are going to come very soon as this issue is dissected and discussed and analyzed," said Bill Magness, ERCOT chief executive, at a Wednesday press conference.
This is exactly my point. In a wholesale market, that's exactly right. That's the risk you're taking by intentionally bypassing the retail market, which has price protections like you normally see in consumer markets. If you were on Griddy, you said "I want to trade those protections for a lower expected price alongside the risk of really high spikes sometimes."I mean, a 338-fold increase in price seems absurd. If my normal electric bill was $50 for a month, that would go up to $16,900 for the month. That's simply not right, IMO.
I understand, thanks for clarifying (and @culdeus)This is exactly my point. In a wholesale market, that's exactly right. That's the risk you're taking by intentionally bypassing the retail market, which has price protections like you normally see in consumer markets. If you were on Griddy, you said "I want to trade those protections for a lower expected price alongside the risk of really high spikes sometimes."
Obviously, people don't understand that risk. I would be all for not allowing them to access wholesale. But if you do access wholesale, it worked exactly as it should. You fully expose yourself to supple/demand price changes, love the benefits when electricity is super cheap or free, but now you want to bail when the other end comes due. (the general you, not you specifically good buddy).
The downside of deregulation.This is exactly my point. In a wholesale market, that's exactly right. That's the risk you're taking by intentionally bypassing the retail market, which has price protections like you normally see in consumer markets. If you were on Griddy, you said "I want to trade those protections for a lower expected price alongside the risk of really high spikes sometimes."
Obviously, people don't understand that risk. I would be all for not allowing them to access wholesale. But if you do access wholesale, it worked exactly as it should. You fully expose yourself to supply/demand price changes, love the benefits when electricity is super cheap or free, but now you want to bail when the other end comes due. (the general you, not you specifically good buddy).
What company are you going with on solar?Let's put it this way. My solar system is estimated to come in at 13.5kwh and my house on average burns 12. So I've got 1.5 kwh of surplus on a typical day.
I have two options in Texas. I can store it. Or sell it back, at the same rate I paid for it.
The storage option has the benefit of in a situation where the grid browns out I still get power.
I've got Tesla contractors coming out to take a look 3/2.What company are you going with on solar?
Yes, really. Among the obvious others we just experienced.not really?
It definitely goes back to the deregulation of 2005, when Rick "The Hair" Perry was gov. Instead of a single provider being available, Texans got the "privilege" of shopping the marketplace for one. Sometimes you get cheaper electricity, sometimes the shaft. It's like going to a restaurant and buying fish at market price without checking what that price actually is.please explain this.
A couple of exterior PVC pipes running to/from the pump broke, but the pump survived and I think the only breaks are in the open air (easy to freeze, but easy to fix.) Our makeshift tenting and kerosene lantern likely saved the pump itself.Ok, so things going sideways again now. Water pressure down dramatically at my house and the smell of the water is pretty bad. Called it into the city and they say they are looking at several water main breaks but so far no boil notice. neat.
FWIW my pool stuff looks ok ish. I'll probably wait till tomorrow to fire it up completely.
Yes those crabs claws were $45 last week, but this week they're $18,400. You should have asked before ordering.It definitely goes back to the deregulation of 2005, when Rick "The Hair" Perry was gov. Instead of a single provider being available, Texans got the "privilege" of shopping the marketplace for one. Sometimes you get cheaper electricity, sometimes the shaft. It's like going to a restaurant and buying fish at market price without checking what that price actually is.
The act also made it not worthwhile to build new plants or upgrade older ones. We just kept the crap. That's why Perry was made Energy Secretary.
thanks - yeah, it seemed like matuski was saying that and Instinctive was saying that wasn't the case.It definitely goes back to the deregulation of 2005, when Rick "The Hair" Perry was gov. Instead of a single provider being available, Texans got the "privilege" of shopping the marketplace for one. Sometimes you get cheaper electricity, sometimes the shaft. It's like going to a restaurant and buying fish at market price without checking what that price actually is.
The act also made it not worthwhile to build new plants or upgrade older ones. We just kept the crap. That's why Perry was made Energy Secretary.
not really?The downside of deregulation.