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2 minutes ago, rockaction said:

Let's see if the Jags homer takes him, huh?

If you mean Lawrence, I kind of hope so. The reason I took Etienne and not Williams was that I hoped he'd bypass the latter and I could take him at 6. I'm okay with one of the other QBs.

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5 minutes ago, Andy Dufresne said:

If you mean Lawrence, I kind of hope so. The reason I took Etienne and not Williams was that I hoped he'd bypass the latter and I could take him at 6. I'm okay with one of the other QBs.

Yep. I remember. This is the one you've been talking about for quite some time. You have a ton of picks. Good luck. I love the Etienne pick and we'll see if your game theory style works in this case.

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3 hours ago, Andy Dufresne said:

If you mean Lawrence, I kind of hope so. The reason I took Etienne and not Williams was that I hoped he'd bypass the latter and I could take him at 6. I'm okay with one of the other QBs.

Ding! He did. Nice pull.

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On 5/21/2021 at 8:48 AM, Blick said:

I feel like there is a significant tier jump after five, but I think I'd strongly consider this.

Assuming that top 5 is Harrise, Ettienne, William's, Chase, Pitts.........that may not be everyone's top 5.  I have seen 100 different tier variances on here.  

I think Kittle and pick 6 obviously holds more value than pick 1, and would go that route even if those were the top 5 picks.   Maybe even trade pick 6 back for a future 1st and pick in the 11-14 range or so.  

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7 hours ago, Andy Dufresne said:

Zealots Non-PPR IDP - 2 starting RBs required, Passing TDs = 4 pts

This is the one I've been waiting to do. Took over the Chargers as an orphan after week 1 last year, tore it down to almost the foundation!

Well, I made one last trade up to go from 2.1 to 1.10 (cost me next year's 2nd). I was hoping to get Waddle, but I'll settle for Bateman. 

Not a bad start to the reboot here: Pitts/Etienne/Williams/Smith/Lance/Bateman will go with Chubb and Higgins to form the starting corps. Well, except for Lance, Brady will start ahead of him. 

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29 minutes ago, Andy Dufresne said:

Well, I made one last trade up to go from 2.1 to 1.10 (cost me next year's 2nd). I was hoping to get Waddle, but I'll settle for Bateman. 

Not a bad start to the reboot here: Pitts/Etienne/Williams/Smith/Lance/Bateman will go with Chubb and Higgins to form the starting corps. Well, except for Lance, Brady will start ahead of him. 

Some might quibble with Smith over Waddle, but that's a masterful job man.

As a recent returner to the SP, do you mind sharing the pieces you traded away for all of these draft picks?  

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46 minutes ago, facook said:

Some might quibble with Smith over Waddle, but that's a masterful job man.

As a recent returner to the SP, do you mind sharing the pieces you traded away for all of these draft picks?  

Uh, it's a long story. It started with names like Watson, R Wilson Elliott, K Allen, M Sanders, and Diggs. Swift, Andrews, & McLaurin were on the roster at one time.

So I think I started with a few pretty good but veteran (not really "old") pieces and turned them into hopefully eight good, young ones.

Looking back at it, I'm not sure how much better it really is, but it's been fun! And it's definitely younger.

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On 5/22/2021 at 11:35 AM, Andy Dufresne said:

Zealots Non-PPR IDP - 2 starting RBs required, Passing TDs = 4 pts

This is the one I've been waiting to do. Took over the Chargers as an orphan after week 1 last year, tore it down to almost the foundation!

Almost done, my draft is. I don't know if I made things better but I made it newer and mine. :shrug:

Stocked up on upside WRs!

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On 5/25/2021 at 9:38 PM, Madden Curse said:

America’s Team gave up Year 2021 Draft Pick 1.01

Yo Couch gave up Moore, D.J. CAR WR; Year 2021 Draft Pick 1.06

I moved from 1.05 to 1.01 in TE premium for giving Mims. Happy happy.

 

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Beginning to not like this draft class. Some huge potnetial at WR but like every year they just wont all come through. On a personal level I dont rate the QB as much as others, RB are kinda scarce and TE is a one man show. On IDP we have no real DE to target and a very very muddy LB situation.

Meh.

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12 team PPR dynasty, 1 qb league

1.1 Harris

1.2 Chase

1.3 Pitts

1.4 Etienne 

1.5 Javonte Williams (my pick)

1.6 Waddle

1.7 D. Smith

1.8 Sermon

1.9 Lawrence 

1.10 Carter

1.11 Bateman

1.12 E. Moore

2.1 Marshall

2.2 Toney

2.3 Wilson

2.4 R. Moore

2.5 Lance

2.6 St. Brown

2.7 Fields

2.8 Collins

2.9 D. Brown  

2.10 Rodgers 

2.11 Stevenson

2.12 Eskridge 

3.1 Gainwell

3.2 Hubbard 

3.3 Firsker 

3.4 OTC 

 

It seems like so far, from what I've seen, this is the most common top 5. Yes I've seen a few flips in order but seems like Etienne goes before Williams most everywhere, and Pitts usually immediately after Harris/Chase (although I've seen that order flipped a few times) 

Everyone else pretty much seeing the same so far? 

 

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On 5/21/2021 at 12:54 PM, eric rymer said:

I know right. lol

Looking long and hard at it. This was his first offer too. I don't wanna hit the well to hard but he might up this a bit. Even if I could swap significant position in one of the earlier rounds I might pull the trigger.

agreed. I'd love to stay in the top 3 but a known commodity in Kittle is a nice consolation. 

yeah I thought deciding between Pitts, Harris and Chase was tough. lol.

So I wanted to follow up on this one. Haven’t pulled the trigger on the Kittle offer yet. Meanwhile I continued messaging the rest on the top 8. Sure enough the guy at 1.4 was listening. Packaged some pieces along with Tua and the 2.01 (17th overall) and was able to get the 1.4. So now have 1.01 and 1.04. 1.01 for 1.06/Kittle is still an option but something about Kittle has me nervous. Maybe it’s overthinking at this point. But I’m strongly leaning to sitting still and taking Pitts at 1.01 and Harris/ETN/Chase at 1.04 and calling it a day. 

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12 minutes ago, oukurt said:

My current SF/12 Team SuperFlex startup draft

PPR, 1.5 TE

Starters:

Number of Starting QBs:1-2

Number of Starting RBs:2-4

Number of Starting WRs:2-5

Number of Starting TEs:1-3

Maximum Number of Starting QB/RB/WR/TE Players:11

I’ve seen you post a few times and I don’t get the starting lineups. What are the starting lineups in terms of QRRWWTFFFS? That’s way easier to understand than 2-4RBs, 2-5WRs, etc

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4 minutes ago, Edgar said:

I’ve seen you post a few times and I don’t get the starting lineups. What are the starting lineups in terms of QRRWWTFFFS? That’s way easier to understand than 2-4RBs, 2-5WRs, etc

Just a copy and paste of the exact starting lineup / options as listed in league settings. I added the Flex, SFlex to clarify. Let me know how you prefer to see the starting lineup requirements that may make it easier read and I will change it up.

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6 hours ago, oukurt said:

Just a copy and paste of the exact starting lineup / options as listed in league settings. I added the Flex, SFlex to clarify. Let me know how you prefer to see the starting lineup requirements that may make it easier read and I will change it up.

QRRWWWTFFS is typical nomenclature. Seems like you have something different than a Flex because your RBs are min 2 max 4, while WR are min2max5

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On 5/22/2021 at 5:01 PM, Andy Dufresne said:

Not a bad start to the reboot here: Pitts/Etienne/Williams/Smith/Lance/Bateman will go with Chubb and Higgins to form the starting corps. Well, except for Lance, Brady will start ahead of him. 

Nicely done. 

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another one underway

14 team .5 ppr 1 qb, yes 1 qb lol

1 Harris

2 Pitts

3 Chase

4 Etienne

5 Williams

6 Waddle

7 Smith

8 Lawrence

9 Lance

10 Fields

11 Sermon

12 Z Wilson

13 Bateman

14 Marshall

15 Carter

16 R Moore

17 E Moore

18 Mac Jones

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Rookie/FA draft.  12 team, 1/2/2/1/2 rb,wr,te/k/d, ppr.  I had pick 9,21, 33, 45.  Some buyer's remorse pulling the trigger on Toney over Dillon/Dyami/Amari in rd 2.

1. RB Najee Harris, PIT
2. WR JaMarr Chase, CIN
3. QB Trevor Lawrence, JAX
4. TE Kyle Pitts, ATL
5. RB Travis Etienne, JAX
6. RB Javonte Williams, DEN
7. WR DeVonta Smith, PHI
8. QB Trey Lance, SF
9. WR Jaylen Waddle, MIA
10. RB Trey Sermon, SF
11. RB Michael Carter, NYJ
12. WR Rashod Bateman, BAL
13. QB Justin Fields, CHI
14. WR Elijah Moore, NYJ
15. WR Terrace Marshall, CAR
16. WR Rondale Moore, ARZ
17. WR Amon-Ra St. Brown, DET
18. TE Pat Freiermuth, PIT
19. RB Kenneth Gainwell, PHI
20. QB Zach Wilson, NYJ
21. WR Kadarius Toney, NYG
22. RB AJ Dillon, GB
23. RB Salvon Ahmed, MIA
24. QB Mac Jones, NEP
25. QB Jameis Winston, NOS
26. Redskins D/ST
27. RB Chuba Hubbard, CAR
28. RB Rhamondre Stevenson, NEP
29. RB Chris Evans, CIN
30. WR Breshad Perriman, DET
31. WR Dyami Brown, WAS
32. WR D'Wayne Eskridge, SEA
33. WR Josh Palmer, LAC
34. WR Amari Rodgers, GB
35. K Brandon McManus, DEN
36. Broncos D/ST
37. Pats D/ST
38. K Robbie Gould
39. WR Darius Slayton, NYG
40. WR Travis Fulgham, PHI
41. WR Nico Collins, HOU
42. RB Xavier Jones, LAR
43. TE Anthony Firkser, TEN
44. RB Javian Hawkins, ATL
45. TE Gerald Everett, SEA
46. TE Hayden Hurst, ATL
47. QB Ryan Fitzpatrick, WAS
48. RB Malcolm Brown, MIA

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12 team PPR SF:

1.01 Lawrence

1.02 Lance

1.03 Fields

1.04 Chase

1.05 Harris

1.06 Etienne

1.07 Z.Wilson

1.08 Pitts (me)

1.09 J.Williams

1.10 Smith

1.11 Mac Jones

1.12 Sermon

2.01 Carter

2.02 Waddle

2.03 E. Moore

2.04 R.Moore

2.05 Bateman

2.06 Marshall

2.07 Mills

2.08 Mond

2.09 St Brown

2.10 Toney

2.11 Rodgers

2.12 Freiermuth

2.13 (prize for loser bowl winner) Nico Collins

3.01 Chuba Hubbard

3.02 Byron Pringle 

3.03 Gainwell

3.04 Trask

3.05 Palmer

3.06 Stephenson

3.07 D. Brown

3.08 Wallace

3.09 E.Mitchell

3.10 Eskridge

3.11 Atwell

3.12 D.Fitzpatrick

Rounda 4-5 are fairly boring. Darrell Williams 4.11, Tremble 4.12, Chris Evans 5.08,  I got Rountree 5.09, Samije Perine went 5.11

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1 hour ago, BigJim® said:

Looking at the couple recent drafts, I’m clearly higher on Rountree than the masses.

I was PSYCHED to land him at the end of the 5th. 

To the point that I messaged the dude at 5.08 asking him if I had to trade with him to move up a spot. He asked who I was taking & I asked who he was taking :lol: 

he said he wanted either Evans or Rountree & I said I was looking at Rountree. He’s cool like that so he took Evans. 

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On 7/31/2021 at 3:35 PM, Hot Sauce Guy said:

I was PSYCHED to land him at the end of the 5th. 

To the point that I messaged the dude at 5.08 asking him if I had to trade with him to move up a spot. He asked who I was taking & I asked who he was taking :lol: 

he said he wanted either Evans or Rountree & I said I was looking at Rountree. He’s cool like that so he took Evans. 

Nice. I targeted him earlier than most. His talent seems fine and his opportunity exceeds a lot of RBs I see going 3rd/4th. 

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Might as well post our rookie draft instead of just commenting on others. I began with 1.6, 1.11, 2.6, 3.6, 3.11. My draft prep pretty much went out the window after my draft day offer of 1.6/1.11/Cousins for 1.2 was accepted. I had planned to take Marshall 1.11, so navigating from 2.6->2.5 was a pleasant surprise. It did cost me Freiermuth, who I planned to take @ 2.6 going in. I'm clearly higher on Rountree/Schwartz than most. Oh well, I take guys that I like in later rounds and don't focus much on ADP. It works for me. 

Standard scoring no PPR/no IDP.

1.1 Kyle Pitts

1.2 Najee Harris

1.3 JaMarr Chase

1.4 Javante Williams

1.5 Travis Etienne

1.6 Devonta Smith

1.7 Trevor Lawrence

1.8 Jaylen Waddle

1.9 Trey Sermon

1.10 Trey Lance

1.11 Rashod Batemen

1.12 Justin Fields

 

2.1 Michael Carter

2.2 Elijah Moore

2.3 Rondale Moore

2.4 Zach Wilson

2.5 Terrace Marshall

2.6 Amon Ra-St Brown

2.7 Kadarius Toney

2.8 Chuba Hubbard

2.9 Amari Rodgers

2.10 Rhamondre Stevenson

2.11 Pat Freiermuth

2.12 Nico Collins

 

3.1 Mac Jones

3.2 Kenneth Gainwell

3.3 D'Wayne Eskridge

3.4 Josh Palmer

3.5 Kellen Mond

3.6 Larry Rountree III

3.7 Javian Hawkins

3.8 Dyami Brown

3.9 Kyle Trask

3.10 Elijah Mitchell

3.11 Ihmir Smith-Marsette

3.12 Cornell Powell

 

4.1 Evan McPherson

4.2 Hunter Long

4.3 Kylan Granson

4.4 Brevin Jordan

4.5 Anthony Schwartz

4.6 Gerrid Doaks

4.7 Noah Gray

4.8 Tylan Wallace

4.9 Tutu Atwell

4.10 Jacob Harris

4.11 Chris Evans

4.12 Khalil Herbert

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On 7/31/2021 at 3:43 PM, BigJim® said:

Looking at the couple recent drafts, I’m clearly higher on Rountree than the masses.

I have him in both of my dynasty leagues. Took him in the 3rd really in both leagues, one league we have a devy round each year.

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46 minutes ago, metoo said:

I have him in both of my dynasty leagues. Took him in the 3rd really in both leagues, one league we have a devy round each year.

Always wanted to have an opportunity to reply "user name checks out :thumbup:"

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On 8/2/2021 at 1:03 AM, BigJim® said:

Might as well post our rookie draft instead of just commenting on others. I began with 1.6, 1.11, 2.6, 3.6, 3.11. My draft prep pretty much went out the window after my draft day offer of 1.6/1.11/Cousins for 1.2 was accepted. I had planned to take Marshall 1.11, so navigating from 2.6->2.5 was a pleasant surprise. It did cost me Freiermuth, who I planned to take @ 2.6 going in. I'm clearly higher on Rountree/Schwartz than most. Oh well, I take guys that I like in later rounds and don't focus much on ADP. It works for me. 

Standard scoring no PPR/no IDP.

1.1 Kyle Pitts

1.2 Najee Harris

1.3 JaMarr Chase

1.4 Javante Williams

1.5 Travis Etienne

1.6 Devonta Smith

1.7 Trevor Lawrence

1.8 Jaylen Waddle

1.9 Trey Sermon

1.10 Trey Lance

1.11 Rashod Batemen

1.12 Justin Fields

 

2.1 Michael Carter

2.2 Elijah Moore

2.3 Rondale Moore

2.4 Zach Wilson

2.5 Terrace Marshall

2.6 Amon Ra-St Brown

2.7 Kadarius Toney

2.8 Chuba Hubbard

2.9 Amari Rodgers

2.10 Rhamondre Stevenson

2.11 Pat Freiermuth

2.12 Nico Collins

 

3.1 Mac Jones

3.2 Kenneth Gainwell

3.3 D'Wayne Eskridge

3.4 Josh Palmer

3.5 Kellen Mond

3.6 Larry Rountree III

3.7 Javian Hawkins

3.8 Dyami Brown

3.9 Kyle Trask

3.10 Elijah Mitchell

3.11 Ihmir Smith-Marsette

3.12 Cornell Powell

 

4.1 Evan McPherson

4.2 Hunter Long

4.3 Kylan Granson

4.4 Brevin Jordan

4.5 Anthony Schwartz

4.6 Gerrid Doaks

4.7 Noah Gray

4.8 Tylan Wallace

4.9 Tutu Atwell

4.10 Jacob Harris

4.11 Chris Evans

4.12 Khalil Herbert

 

I'd strip nekked and run around the neighborhood if Carter was avail at the end of the first round of our draft. 

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On 8/2/2021 at 12:03 AM, BigJim® said:

Might as well post our rookie draft instead of just commenting on others. I began with 1.6, 1.11, 2.6, 3.6, 3.11. My draft prep pretty much went out the window after my draft day offer of 1.6/1.11/Cousins for 1.2 was accepted. I had planned to take Marshall 1.11, so navigating from 2.6->2.5 was a pleasant surprise. It did cost me Freiermuth, who I planned to take @ 2.6 going in. I'm clearly higher on Rountree/Schwartz than most. Oh well, I take guys that I like in later rounds and don't focus much on ADP. It works for me. 

Standard scoring no PPR/no IDP.

1.1 Kyle Pitts

1.2 Najee Harris

1.3 JaMarr Chase

1.4 Javante Williams

1.5 Travis Etienne

1.6 Devonta Smith

1.7 Trevor Lawrence

1.8 Jaylen Waddle

1.9 Trey Sermon

1.10 Trey Lance

1.11 Rashod Batemen

1.12 Justin Fields

 

2.1 Michael Carter

2.2 Elijah Moore

2.3 Rondale Moore

2.4 Zach Wilson

2.5 Terrace Marshall

2.6 Amon Ra-St Brown

2.7 Kadarius Toney

2.8 Chuba Hubbard

2.9 Amari Rodgers

2.10 Rhamondre Stevenson

2.11 Pat Freiermuth

2.12 Nico Collins

 

3.1 Mac Jones

3.2 Kenneth Gainwell

3.3 D'Wayne Eskridge

3.4 Josh Palmer

3.5 Kellen Mond

3.6 Larry Rountree III

3.7 Javian Hawkins

3.8 Dyami Brown

3.9 Kyle Trask

3.10 Elijah Mitchell

3.11 Ihmir Smith-Marsette

3.12 Cornell Powell

 

4.1 Evan McPherson

4.2 Hunter Long

4.3 Kylan Granson

4.4 Brevin Jordan

4.5 Anthony Schwartz

4.6 Gerrid Doaks

4.7 Noah Gray

4.8 Tylan Wallace

4.9 Tutu Atwell

4.10 Jacob Harris

4.11 Chris Evans

4.12 Khalil Herbert

 

Terrace Marshall was an excellent value at 2.05.  Dyami Brown at 3.08 was also a bargain.  

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4 hours ago, Deamon said:

Someone talk me into taking Etienne over Chase at 1.02.

Shhhhhh🤫

From someone who is sitting with the 1.04 pick...I strongly suggest people not deviate from the rookie ADP from the last few months.🙏🤞

1) Harris

2) Chase

3) Pitts

 

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22 minutes ago, jimmy b said:

Shhhhhh🤫

From someone who is sitting with the 1.04 pick...I strongly suggest people not deviate from the rookie ADP from the last few months.🙏🤞

1) Harris

2) Chase

3) Pitts

 

Haha I doubt anyone from your leagues is in here, so fire away!  Gimme your Etienne love and reasons for taking him over chase at the 1.02

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50 minutes ago, Deamon said:

Haha I doubt anyone from your leagues is in here, so fire away!  Gimme your Etienne love and reasons for taking him over chase at the 1.02

Not really a preference one way or the other. Both rated at 1/1A, but personally for me I hit with my WR’s in last year’s rookie draft (Lamb, Higgins, Shenault, .Aiyuk) so Etienne fits my team better moving forward. Curious to see how it shakes out with Etienne and Robinson. It’s like picking between Lamb and Taylor last year, don’t think you can go wrong with either Chase or Etienne this year...Good luck.

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6 hours ago, Deamon said:

Someone talk me into taking Etienne over Chase at 1.02.

I am in the same situation however sitting at 1.3. Harris and Javonte are going 1.1 and 1.2, both owners have said such and both need RBs. Leaned ETN at first after NFL draft, then the Watson drama insued, i ended up with trading for Burrow. So the thought of pairing Chase and Burrow is an advantage and intriguing.

Had a very good draft last season (dynasty/contract/salary cap league) with Dobbins, CEH, Claypool and Shenault. I have always been a RB first guy but right now I am 99% taking Chase. Not sure at this point I can be talked out of not taking Chase.

Roster looks like this

QB Burrow, Watson, Tyrod

RB CMC, Dobbins, CEH, Mike Davis

WR Dionte Johnson, Claypool, Shenault, Beckham, Bryan Edwards

TE Waller, OJ Howard, Everett

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2 hours ago, sos32 said:

I am in the same situation however sitting at 1.3. Harris and Javonte are going 1.1 and 1.2, both owners have said such and both need RBs. Leaned ETN at first after NFL draft, then the Watson drama insued, i ended up with trading for Burrow. So the thought of pairing Chase and Burrow is an advantage and intriguing.

Had a very good draft last season (dynasty/contract/salary cap league) with Dobbins, CEH, Claypool and Shenault. I have always been a RB first guy but right now I am 99% taking Chase. Not sure at this point I can be talked out of not taking Chase.

Roster looks like this

QB Burrow, Watson, Tyrod

RB CMC, Dobbins, CEH, Mike Davis

WR Dionte Johnson, Claypool, Shenault, Beckham, Bryan Edwards

TE Waller, OJ Howard, Everett

Short term, reports seem to indicate ETN is leading out of the gate at training camps.  ETN excelling, Chase is kind of hit or miss. May need a little patience with Chase with tempered expectations this season?

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