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2013 Off Season Dynasty Trade Thread (for completed trades) (4 Viewers)
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Footballguy
Ugh, this trade actually just got declined. We had been talking back and forth over texts for awhile coming to final terms Me - "So Forte and 1.3 for Morris?"Him -"Works for me, send the trade offer, I'll accept when I get off work"Me - "Sent, thanks man"Sent the trade, came home and posted it here. Then yesterday I notice it's still pending.Me - "Hey man, can you go ahead and accept that trade? Or want me to put it through (I'm commish)"Him - "Sorry, been super busy, I'll accept it here in a sec"This morning it still hasn't been accepted. Me - "I hate to bug you, but that trade is still out in limbo"Him - "Sorry, been really busy, I'm going to have to decline for now and look it over when I get a chance"Declined 2 minutes later Sigh.Sorry if this messed anyone up, I know this is for completed trades only, but I thought this was as good as completed. Lesson learned. Text saying yes I'll do it, does not equal completed.
League generally likes the Calvin side, some people saying 'by a lot'. Its a startup draft still going, so all teams are fairly equal. My opinion is that I like Calvin side, but mostly cause I am not a Mathews fan.
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Footballguy
12 Team ppr (TE 1.5)Team A gets A. FosterTeam B gets K. Moreno, Roddy White, 2.01, 2nd round pick 2014
Some trades in my 0.5 PR league (full IDP), 16 team league:TEAM A:Colin Kaepernick, QB, San Francisco 49ersTEAM B:KJ Wright, LB, Seattle Seahawks2013 2.14 rookie pickTeam A: Kaepernick added as a QB4Team B: Wright added as a LB2/3TEAM A:Eric Berry, S, Kansas City ChiefsTEAM B:Jake Locker, QB, Tennessee Titans2014 3rd round pickTEAM A: Berry added as a S1/2TEAM B: Locker added as a QB2NOTE: Team that traded Locker later acquired Kaepernick.
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Donsmith753
Footballguy
Tough to make this kind of trade in a startup. Not bad, but I agree with Doowain, this one could hurt long term for the team getting Calvin (and I rate Calvin as #1 overall).
squistion
Footballguy
Hmmm...if this is representative for what Foster is going for I need to start targeting him in my leagues.
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Footballguy
What means this?
bengalbuck
Footballguy
After a quick glance it looks like Marqise Lee for Keenan Allen and some spare parts. I know I'm probably in the minority, but I would take Allen over Lee straight up, so I like the deal for a team A.Edit to add: how was Allen not drafted ahead of some of those guys listed? It is not like he was some under the radar guy who just emerged this year...
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Donsmith753
Footballguy
Don't like it, think you can get more for Foster.What means this?
bengalbuck
Footballguy
That is a close one. I was offered a very similar deal in which I would have received Megatron mid season in exchange for a top 25 player and two highly regarded developmental guys. I turned it down after thinking really hard about it and almost accepting and somewhat regret it as he went on a huge tear right after I turned the deal down. You have to overpay to get Calvin and it could be worth it, but if one of those draft picks turns into a Doug Martin or Julio or AJ Green, etc, then you probably lose in the long run.
Strictly conjecture here, but I think he's favoring the Foster side. As a Foster owner myself, I'd laugh at this offer.What means this?
bengalbuck
Footballguy
You are most likely correct. Hard to really analyze if a guy or two is missing. If Allen isn't available, I probably like the trade for the guy getting Lee. I wouldn't give much of anything for Foles and the second rounder isn't worth that much with everything so picked over with devys.I'm curious what a guy like Lee would get in a trade for a veteran. I have a team that is overstocked with young guys and I need to make some moves trading devys for guys who can help now and would love to move Lee. If anyone has seen or Watkins change hands, I would live to see the return.
footballfreek
Footballguy
In October I gave Donald Brown,Julio Jones and a 2013 3rd rd for Lee, Dez and a 2013 1st rd which ended up 1.10.At the time Brown was still starting and the owner had soured on Dez. He was in win mode and I was in rebuild mode. I did move Dez a week or two later for Randle and Daniel Thomas... Not real happy with that one.I'm probably one of the bigger fans of Lee!
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JohnnyU
Footballguy
Keenan Allen is already on a team, I just missed it. However, there is no way I would rank Allen over Lee. Allen has plenty of question marks. One being ability to separate at the next level and another is health. He also has had his share of drops throughout his career.Allen isn't a can't miss prospect, whereas Lee is IMO.
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r0llin_game
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Jeter, do you have a link on these mocks. Curious as to a few players are being valued at.TIA'jeter23 said:
Skeletore Eh
Footballguy
Terrible. I'll take green easily.
I've done 3 deals the past few days. All 12 team leagues. First two trades are 1.5 TE PPR league, last trade is 1.25 TE PPR. All other positions are single PPR. Trade 1:Team A received Owen DanielsTeam B received rookie draft pick 2.8***Key to note this is an FFPC dynasty league so off season rosters have to be cut down to 14. So compared to most leagues trading a player for a draft pick in theory means you not only are getting a draft pick but you keep your 15th rated player. Also by making every team cut down to 14 position players the rookie pool will be deeper but the flip side to that is due to 20 man in season roster limits and 14 man off season it's hard to hang onto developmental prospects so in that sense rookie picks are devalued to a degree. So if you weight a deeper rookie draft vs difficulty holding onto players I'm not sure if the totality of it makes the 2.8 pick more or less valuable than most dynasty leagues. Just thought this was important to note to be able to assess the trade****Trade 2:Team A received Owen DanielsTeam B received Dustin KellerTrade 3:Team A received: Jimmy Graham, Darren Mcfadden, James Jones and Leonard HankersonTeam B received: Roddy White, Frank Gore, Danario Alexander, pick 3.7 of rookie draft. (this league has up to 25 man off season rosters so more shallow draft pool but you can hang onto developmental players)
I definitely like AJ more as well, though AF went 1.05 in startup last week, while AJ went 1.08 (very RB-heavy first round).
Skeletore Eh
Footballguy
I really don't know how you could take foster over green. Rb1 production for two years or wr1 production for 6 years is how I see it
One More Rep
Footballguy
I really like the Graham side in trade 3.
Dez
Footballguy
"terrible" now that was funny. If you like winning now that is how you take Foster because it is so damn hard to find a stud RB that will produce at a high level for the next 3-4 years.Of course for every single RB vs WR traded you can always say "how can you ever trade a RB that will produce for 3 years for a WR that will produce for 6 but if you want to win championships at some point you have to play for the now.I think this is a very fair trade so I don't know how you can see it as terrible. You can usually see approx value for players when looking at where players go in start up drafts and I would tend to believe Foster will go before Green in most of them. Supply and demand.I had a nice line up of Gronk, Hernandez, AJ Green, Dez, Harvin in 1 of my start ups from last year and because I skipped town at the RB position for the "All value young forever lasting stud WR and TE's" I finished in 2nd place not 1st because I was left with the Bradshaw's and god awful RB 2's of the world. So while it is awesome to have these young stud WR's and TE's it really sucked having no playable RB's all year.Oh and I also got this nice young stud TE named Finley...
Fair trade both ways depends on what you want and what your trying for.I will tell you what was terrible though it was me trading the 1.02 pick in 2010 when I was going to draft AJ Gren then decided to "go for it now" and traded it for Roddy White!
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Team B making out like a bandit in trade 2
I'd much rather have Forte and Floyd.
ConnSKINS26
Footballguy
Don't agree at all.
Abraham
Footballguy
Why?
Because, at least for the next two years, I believe Forte will continue to outscore Ridley -- much like this year. I also believe Floyd vs Brown is a fairly significant 'win' for Floyd in terms of talent.
You mean the way Forte out scored Ridley this year?
That is really close, I think I would take the Murray side.
wasted space 25
Footballguy
Team A getsJustin BlackmonTeam B getsDarryl RIchardson and a 2nd round rookie pick
squistion
Footballguy
I don't think I would take D. Richardson and a 1st for Blackmon (with the possible exception of a really low 1st) Team B is rolling the dice that Richardson is Steven Jackson's long term replacement - and he may be right, but I have serious doubts about that.One More Rep
Footballguy
I prefer Blackmon here also
Spike
Footballguy
Easily.I prefer Blackmon here also
Skeletore Eh
Footballguy
Expecting 3-4 years of stud rb production from foster is foolish. I also don't see how having a top 5 wr (green) doesn't help you win now????Furthermore, your particular team with your stud young te have nothing to do with this trade. This trade is even for the next two years. After that it is a massive win for the green owner."terrible" now that was funny. If you like winning now that is how you take Foster because it is so damn hard to find a stud RB that will produce at a high level for the next 3-4 years.Of course for every single RB vs WR traded you can always say "how can you ever trade a RB that will produce for 3 years for a WR that will produce for 6 but if you want to win championships at some point you have to play for the now.I think this is a very fair trade so I don't know how you can see it as terrible. You can usually see approx value for players when looking at where players go in start up drafts and I would tend to believe Foster will go before Green in most of them. Supply and demand.I had a nice line up of Gronk, Hernandez, AJ Green, Dez, Harvin in 1 of my start ups from last year and because I skipped town at the RB position for the "All value young forever lasting stud WR and TE's" I finished in 2nd place not 1st because I was left with the Bradshaw's and god awful RB 2's of the world. So while it is awesome to have these young stud WR's and TE's it really sucked having no playable RB's all year.Oh and I also got this nice young stud TE named Finley...
Andrew74
Footballguy
Wait, I thought Kaepernick was a QB?
doowain
Footballguy
Ahem. Tonight is why I said that. He has Cam upside (and then some?) WITHOUT the diva tendencies.ETA: He was QB12 after he took over the starters job. And that was with the reigns firmly on.
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ctrlaltdefeat
Footballguy
Not involved
pr, start 2 rb, 2 wr, 1 flexTeam A gets: Justin Blackmon and Lamar MillerTeam B gets: TY Hilton and Bryce Brown
pr, start 2 rb, 2 wr, 1 flexTeam A gets: Justin Blackmon and Lamar MillerTeam B gets: TY Hilton and Bryce BrownI prefer Blackmon over Hilton, and Miller over Brown.Not involved
loose circuits
Footballguy
e gave up Bradford, Sam STL QB;Redman, Isaac PIT RB;Sproles, Darren RB, 1.10s gave up Brady, Tom NEP QB;Greene, Shonn NYJ RB;Powell, Bilal NYJ RB
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SSOG
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Thank you for specifying when it was made. I'm really curious to see what Kaep is going for after he put up the second best fantasy game in history.
I was offered Russell Wilson and 1.02 for him this morning, but it was only via chat and I haven't heard back from that owner after Wilson's strong game.
Dez
Footballguy
To each his own...I am going to guess Foster goes before Green as much as Green goes before Foster this year in startup drafts. Foster is only in his 4th season and only played a few games his rookie year.Trust me I love AJ Green as much as the next person but to call it terrible just doesn't make any sense. So you prefer having AJ Green does that mean your correct and anyone who thinks this is a fair deal or the people who god forbid like having Foster more are idiots ? Just because you believe something to be so doesn't make it so. Again I can understand you wanting Green but to say it was terrible is pretty far off base.Expecting 3-4 years of stud rb production from foster is foolish. I also don't see how having a top 5 wr (green) doesn't help you win now????Furthermore, your particular team with your stud young te have nothing to do with this trade. This trade is even for the next two years. After that it is a massive win for the green owner."terrible" now that was funny. If you like winning now that is how you take Foster because it is so damn hard to find a stud RB that will produce at a high level for the next 3-4 years.Of course for every single RB vs WR traded you can always say "how can you ever trade a RB that will produce for 3 years for a WR that will produce for 6 but if you want to win championships at some point you have to play for the now.I think this is a very fair trade so I don't know how you can see it as terrible. You can usually see approx value for players when looking at where players go in start up drafts and I would tend to believe Foster will go before Green in most of them. Supply and demand.I had a nice line up of Gronk, Hernandez, AJ Green, Dez, Harvin in 1 of my start ups from last year and because I skipped town at the RB position for the "All value young forever lasting stud WR and TE's" I finished in 2nd place not 1st because I was left with the Bradshaw's and god awful RB 2's of the world. So while it is awesome to have these young stud WR's and TE's it really sucked having no playable RB's all year.Oh and I also got this nice young stud TE named Finley...
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Footballguy
I am not getting everyone stating Foster is going to stop producing as an RB1 in two years. The guy is just 26. I predict he will be producing very strong numbers longer than two years out. 
