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Gates tore plantar fascia (1 Viewer)
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southeastjerome
Footballguy
What a beast.
Couch Potato
Footballguy
I think if he just rubs some dirt on it... 
And that is what he's a STUD... Very happy to own him... and I will gladly take whatever he gives me, but I am not sitting him.... he can just go stand in the endzone and catch a few TDs
Todem
Footballguy
It is a very painful injury.Your reading into it too much.
Todem
Footballguy
If he plays with a torn plantar fascia he is a major stud because that is a very painful injury. I just can't see him making it through the entire game. With a bye next week they shouldn't risk him. Besides, I'm playing Crayton this week.
No doubt.
BustedKnuckles
Footballguy
I found this little tid bit while searching that injury....pretty interesting 
I have just picked up your post and seeing as i wrote that article i thought i would throw my opinion in.
Believe it or not, rupturing your plantar fascia if it has been in pain long term (ie, chronically degenerated) is actually a good thing. When you recover from this set back you will actually find you have no further problems (ie pain) with it. No surgery is needed.
It will take about 4 weeks for the pain and swelling to subside and after that you should be right to go. Those rugby players mentioned in that piece played within 3-4 weeks post injury.
However, to make sure you have no arch problems long term or any functional issues, you need to do a number of things.
Firstly, have a physio/podiatrist strap your arch for the next 4 weeks to protect it. This is called a low dye strap. This will allow you to walk without too much discomfort after the 1st week. No need for splinting or an aircast boot.
Next at 4 weeks post injury, see a podiatrist to have an orthotic made up to control your pronation. You need to be walking without a limp when you have this done.
Next, you will need to train the small intrinsic foot muscles that will be needed to support your arch in the absence of the plantar fascia. Do some monkey tricks. Pick up small objects with your toes by grasping them by clenching up the toes.
Let us know how you go.
Regards
Chris Mallac
http://www.sportsinjurybulletin.com/questi...-plantar-fascia
I have just picked up your post and seeing as i wrote that article i thought i would throw my opinion in.
Believe it or not, rupturing your plantar fascia if it has been in pain long term (ie, chronically degenerated) is actually a good thing. When you recover from this set back you will actually find you have no further problems (ie pain) with it. No surgery is needed.
It will take about 4 weeks for the pain and swelling to subside and after that you should be right to go. Those rugby players mentioned in that piece played within 3-4 weeks post injury.
However, to make sure you have no arch problems long term or any functional issues, you need to do a number of things.
Firstly, have a physio/podiatrist strap your arch for the next 4 weeks to protect it. This is called a low dye strap. This will allow you to walk without too much discomfort after the 1st week. No need for splinting or an aircast boot.
Next at 4 weeks post injury, see a podiatrist to have an orthotic made up to control your pronation. You need to be walking without a limp when you have this done.
Next, you will need to train the small intrinsic foot muscles that will be needed to support your arch in the absence of the plantar fascia. Do some monkey tricks. Pick up small objects with your toes by grasping them by clenching up the toes.
Let us know how you go.
Regards
Chris Mallac
http://www.sportsinjurybulletin.com/questi...-plantar-fascia
Gates has been catching passes with his feet to strengthen these muscles this past week. I just know it.
NCPanthersFan
Footballguy
I did not read through but FWIW - doesn't Turner have absolutely little history of starting a player who was listed as doubtful on Friday?
In many fascia-type injuries, such as plantar fascitis or inflammation of the fascia in the wrist that causes carpal tunnel symptoms, the treatment of choice after (conservative methods fail), is to surgically cut the fascia to release tension, inflammation, and eventually pain in the area. This tearing of the fascia is actually not a bad thing for Gates, he will just need to deal with the pain involved from the actual tear. I honestly think it's the toe that is giving him the most trouble. I know what he has said, this is just a hunch that I have...and experience with turf toe...which is actually a more serious of the two injuries as far as limiting his production.
Didn't Turner say mid week that Gates problem is 'the toe' more than the foot? I could have dreamt that up.
Didn't Turner say mid week that Gates problem is 'the toe' more than the foot? I could have dreamt that up.
ROYALWITCHEESE
Footballguy
I think he'll be close in week 11. But as mentioned above, he will have to wear an orthotic for his torn fascia for the rest of his life. Strengthening the intrinsic muscles of the foot will help, but those muscles are tiny. And tiny muscles get tired fast, especially when you weigh 260...
southeastjerome
Footballguy
Agreed. I just picked up McMichael and dumped Winslow. Winslow might be the better play over McMichael, but the problem is that we won't know Gates status for the early games on Sunday.
unckeyherb
Footballguy
yep, trying to grab him off of waivers as well. The Monday night thing is good as it gives Gates one more day to heal, but really screws you unless you've got McMichael. Christ after having to start Celek the last two weeks I REALLY could use Gates back in my lineup. Somehow a two week line of 0 points and 1 point are not intimidating to anyone.
Da Guru
Fair & Balanced
This is a major concern. A tear takes months to heal. If Gates is saying this it may be season ending. I am scooping Randy tonight.
I hope he plays. I have Tony G as my back up, but since we wont know his status, i am wondering if I should drop Tony G and pick up McMichael or if I should drop Keiland Williams who is my 5th RB.
I know Tony G has been a bit down from his normal production, but has he really fallen that far? In PPR, he's been solid, if unspectacular. Do people expect McMichael to just step into A.Gates production? Kinda suprised by that.I hope he plays. I have Tony G as my back up, but since we wont know his status, i am wondering if I should drop Tony G and pick up McMichael or if I should drop Keiland Williams who is my 5th RB.
Cenobite
Footballguy
Me too. McMichael caught 2 passes in week 9. Yes, those 2 passes went for TDs but can you really expect that to happen consistently? I would feel more comfortable if McMichael had a stat line of 5/45/0 rather than 2/23/2. The targets are the key.I know Tony G has been a bit down from his normal production, but has he really fallen that far? In PPR, he's been solid, if unspectacular. Do people expect McMichael to just step into A.Gates production? Kinda suprised by that.
The_Wolfman
Footballguy
He's really the only viable option you can use if Gates doesn't go because San Diego plays on Monday night, since it seems likely that Gates is headed for a GTD.Cenobite said:Me too. McMichael caught 2 passes in week 9. Yes, those 2 passes went for TDs but can you really expect that to happen consistently? I would feel more comfortable if McMichael had a stat line of 5/45/0 rather than 2/23/2. The targets are the key.Mene said:I know Tony G has been a bit down from his normal production, but has he really fallen that far? In PPR, he's been solid, if unspectacular. Do people expect McMichael to just step into A.Gates production? Kinda suprised by that.I hope he plays. I have Tony G as my back up, but since we wont know his status, i am wondering if I should drop Tony G and pick up McMichael or if I should drop Keiland Williams who is my 5th RB.
Rivers is averaging 37 attempts per game. He threw 23 in week 9. If he throws another 50% of the time, and you prorate everyone up, that would give McM 3/35 which isn't too far off of the 5/45 you were looking for. I think McM is a decent play, and agree that since Gates is going to be a GTD, you've gotta roll out McM rather than go with someone like Gresham or Pettigrew or whatever in an earlier game and give up the chance to play Gates.
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fridayfrenzy
Footballguy
Only 50-50? Didn't Gates even warm up before last game, and now has had two weeks to rest it. If he was close to playing two weeks ago, and has had rest and treatment since then, I would have thought it was more than 50-50.
Shoot. We probably won't hear much else beforehand either so it'll be a risky play
LA Playa'z
Footballguy
One other thing to consider is that Malcolm Floyd and Vincent Jackson are due back this week and next week, respectively. This probably means a couple of things:
1. Gates and McMichael are likely to split snaps that go to the TE unless Gates is 90%+
2. Passing to the TEs are going to drop as Rivers has more targets
Now with this said, Rivers really likes Gates in the Red Zone, especially since the SD running game is...unpredictable. MF and VJ are great in stretching the field, but Gates has the size advantage in the end zone to box-out and get position.
For all of us Gates owners, I might caution that we should not count on many more 20 fantasy point games from him. It is probably not a bad idea to cull the waiver wire to look at some opportunistic match-ups, if you have space.
Note: for the guy with the luxury of having Gonzalez, I would say keep him. ATL is going to start making a run for the playoffs, and I would expect that Ryan is going to come to appreciate TG's experience in clutch situations to move the chains and get into the end zone.
1. Gates and McMichael are likely to split snaps that go to the TE unless Gates is 90%+
2. Passing to the TEs are going to drop as Rivers has more targets
Now with this said, Rivers really likes Gates in the Red Zone, especially since the SD running game is...unpredictable. MF and VJ are great in stretching the field, but Gates has the size advantage in the end zone to box-out and get position.
For all of us Gates owners, I might caution that we should not count on many more 20 fantasy point games from him. It is probably not a bad idea to cull the waiver wire to look at some opportunistic match-ups, if you have space.
Note: for the guy with the luxury of having Gonzalez, I would say keep him. ATL is going to start making a run for the playoffs, and I would expect that Ryan is going to come to appreciate TG's experience in clutch situations to move the chains and get into the end zone.
I think his type of injury takes several weeks to heal - the bye was nice but it simply wasn't enough time. Would love for him to get in there, though.
Nick Vermeil
Footballguy
I was rolling with Olsen the last two weeks and it worked out pretty well. I may just plug him in tonight and take my medicine early. It's either that or drop Olsen for Randy.
Yea, maybe best move for me is hold with Hernandez and Gates so I have till late Sunday to see how he is. If its looking bad, then just play *gulp* Hernandez and hope for the best.
Dr. Awesome
Footballguy
I dropped Pettigrew and passed up on Olsent to get McMichael. We would all rather start Gates. Hopefully McMichael can do *something* if he misses time. 
He did not warm up before the game.
tdhartis
Footballguy
Correct, the only comment I hear was that he seemed to be "walking" pretty good before warm ups. I didn't really understand that comment as some sort of vote of confidence because walking is completely different from running and cutting. That being said, if Gates practices towards the end of the week, I'm rolling with him. If not, I'm going with Tamme.
Ever Present Lurker
Footballguy
Any word on if he was in the vicinity of the practice field today?
Dr. Awesome
Footballguy
Hell, I have Gates and love the McMichael handcuff. I have zero need for a wr (VJax is my #6. We start 5). And I'd *still* take that value. You're either dealing with an idiot or one helluva hawk.
UnderDawgs
Footballguy
Tight end Antonio Gates, meanwhile, is unsure whether he will get to face the Broncos.
"I've never had to be 100 percent to play," said Gates, who played in 94 straight games before missing the Houston game with a torn plantar fascia. "But still there is a criteria which you need to meet to get out there on the field -- that's being able to run, being able to do something off the foot where it doesn't bother me. I've got a ways to go ... At this point, I'm trying to give myself a chance to play.
"It's a tear. It's brutal. It's pain ... This is probably as frustrated as I've been in my career based on the recovery time."
http://www.signonsandiego.com/news/2010/no..._medium=twitter
"I've never had to be 100 percent to play," said Gates, who played in 94 straight games before missing the Houston game with a torn plantar fascia. "But still there is a criteria which you need to meet to get out there on the field -- that's being able to run, being able to do something off the foot where it doesn't bother me. I've got a ways to go ... At this point, I'm trying to give myself a chance to play.
"It's a tear. It's brutal. It's pain ... This is probably as frustrated as I've been in my career based on the recovery time."
http://www.signonsandiego.com/news/2010/no..._medium=twitter
Da Guru
Fair & Balanced
Gates has a torn plantar fascia. It is not a bruise or a strain. That takes months to heal.The discomfort from a partial tear can linger, in my experience these usually heal well with proper management. Once the partial tear has been diagnosed, I would recommend immobilization in a removable walking cast with weightbearing to tolerance. When non weightbearing, I would recommend ice massage with a frozen water bottle rolled under the foot, as long as you have no circulatory problems or medical contra-indications.
I usually have a patient in a removable cast for approximately 4-6 weeks depending on the patient and symptoms, and then transition the patient into a comfortable supportive shoe/sneaker with an orthotic or quality over the counter insert such as a PowerStep and make sure that the patient avoids barefoot walking, sandals or slippers.
This was what I found for non-football players.
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Week 15 works for me
I will ride M. Leiws until Gates is back. Scary thing is even if does not play until week 14-15 he still might be top scoring TE at that time.
