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MJD to Holdout (1 Viewer)
- Thread starter Art Vandalay
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A couple thirds. Maybe a 2nd, at best.
LargeMouthBass
Footballguy
What I'm saying is it's gonna get worse without him...
They won't trade him for that. Let him pay the fines and sit out. When they are close to the trade deadline they trade him for a 3rd.
Probably not, but I don't know much about the owner or the GM. But, I was answering the question about what teams will offer. I don't think a team is going to offer anything above a 2nd rounder, at best, and I think it's more likely to be a package of picks, the highest of which would be in the third round.
LargeMouthBass
Footballguy
Yeah he'd be perfect for the Jets. Or maybe the Steelers.
12punch
Footballguy
Think they're tight on capEdit - also steelers
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Raider Nation
Devil's Advocate
If it helps any, I do feel bad that Luca Brasi held a gun to MJD's head when he signed his contract.
Deamon
Footballguy
Let the trade rumours begin. How fast could/would this get done if he will in fact be dealt?
I would have to agree that the frontrunners would be the falcons and lions (both in win now mode, like to throw the ball down the field, no star RB present, both in NFC). Pats, Jets, Steelers, Packers, Bengals could be in the mix, though none of them seem as good of a fit as atlanta or detroit (maybe the pats do). Anyone know if any of the above teams have cap room?
I would have to agree that the frontrunners would be the falcons and lions (both in win now mode, like to throw the ball down the field, no star RB present, both in NFC). Pats, Jets, Steelers, Packers, Bengals could be in the mix, though none of them seem as good of a fit as atlanta or detroit (maybe the pats do). Anyone know if any of the above teams have cap room?
bostonfred
Footballguy
Pats released fanene today, before he ever played a snap for them, and saved close to a million against this years cap. Probably unrelated, but who knows.
Mr. Brownstone
Footballguy
Khan is in a tough spot. That's his best and most recognizable player, but he can't cave in to his first obstacle as the new owner. Every player who wants more money would follow suit.
12punch
Footballguy
Hang on, let me check the 2 posts above yours
Mr. Brownstone
Footballguy
While I believe Khan is right to hold firm in his stance, I find his comment about the train leaving the station rather disrespectful. This is (was?) the face of the franchise, not some faceless union worker.
JaxBill
Footballguy
Especially when he has quality players (Monroe,Darryl Smith, Jennings among others) who are in camp and are getting ready for their contract year.
Deamon
Footballguy
Yes I see one saying the jets and the steelers probably don't have cap room.
Run It Up
Footballguy
Read as dumb. Maybe the Jaguars will have better luck in a better market
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werdnoynek
Footballguy
MJD for Mike Wallace 
LargeMouthBass
Footballguy
I don't know about you but this isn't the best way to negotiate a deal. Sounds like an ultimatum to me.
JaxBill
Footballguy
Because Khan isn't interested in trying to negotiate a deal when MJD has two years left.
yellowdog
Footballguy
If it helps any, I do feel bad that Luca Brasi held a gun to MJD's head when he signed his contract.
duaneok66
Footballguy
thank you. MJD is already under contract.
Wadsworth
Footballguy
Read as dumb. Maybe the Jaguars will have better luck in a better market
Wadsworth
Footballguy
1. Yes2. I hope not, but he is a bit of a wildcard
Literally, every player that holds out is under contract. What does that have to do with anything?
LargeMouthBass
Footballguy
It's not just that he isn't interested in trying to negotiate, it's the way he is doing it. Why is he going public and trying to make MJD look like an ###? Just look at last years offensive stats. You don't do that to the entire offense, period. Be an owner and not a publicist!!!!
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LargeMouthBass
Footballguy
Because he is the entire offense.
karmarooster
Footballguy
MJD to the Patriots or Packers = Superbowl. If you're the GM, why wouldn't you just do it?
duaneok66
Footballguy
That statement is incorrect.
He wants his players to actually play in games?
Raider Nation
Devil's Advocate
I love an owner who takes a stand. Maybe the rest of them will follow suit.
Don't give in to him. Don't trade him. Let him rot.
Don't give in to him. Don't trade him. Let him rot.
Exactly. But, if he pays them, they will.
DoubleG
Footballguy
Ummmm....because the owner that owns the rights to MJD has to actually agree??????
Wadsworth
Footballguy
Shad Khan is a self-made billionaire and not just barely a billionaire, he qualifies with plenty of extra. I bet he knows plenty about how to handle contract disputes.
voiceofunreason
Footballguy
Just give all the players blank cheques. Good idea.This garbage of players holding out, who are making a ton of money and have multiple years on their contracts is ridiculous. They aren't winning no matter what. Plus he has zero choice but to play when the season starts. Yeah, maybe he'll sit out for 2 years but I'm guessing it's slightly unlikely.
It's all a matter of who is willing to pay him. No trade will get executed unless MJD first agrees to a contract with the new team.
So who'd be willing to make a splash like that? No chance in hell it will be the Steelers, Patriots, or any other steady, long-term-oriented organization.
The Jets are an obvious choice, and I'll bet Tannenbaum is combing the books as we speak. Washington? Detroit? Arizona?
So who'd be willing to make a splash like that? No chance in hell it will be the Steelers, Patriots, or any other steady, long-term-oriented organization.
The Jets are an obvious choice, and I'll bet Tannenbaum is combing the books as we speak. Washington? Detroit? Arizona?
LargeMouthBass
Footballguy
Remember that guy that founder of Starbucks? Yes he is very business savvy and was also a self-made billionaire. Look how he destroyed the Sonics. He didn't listen to the players or the fans. Not all businesses are the same...
karmarooster
Footballguy
They have been reporting on the NFL network the word "trade."
Wadsworth
Footballguy
You really think there is a mix? I think we are still a ways from any serious trade talks.
pghrob
Hail to the Chief
Reminiscent of the matter of fact method used by Steelers front office & HC Tomlin regarding Wallace contract.
bostonfred
Footballguy
It does make a certain amount of sense. Rebuilding around a young qb, young wr, and defense, it doesn't really make sense to pay big money to an old running back. The issue with the owner's comments isn't that he made someone mad or hurt the negotiations, but that he hurt them publicly, which hurts the trade value, or the relationship with this player, and also his goodwill with other players. The hard line stance is great, and i agree with it in this case, but there's a line before people don't want to work for your organization, and publicly taunting players is on the wrong side of that line.
Sinrman
Footballguy
I believe the new owner is trying to set a precedence here -- no matter WHO you are, if you sign a contract with the Jaguars, you will honor it, or sit at home. No renegotiation. It's not just a message to MJD -- it's to everyone.
As for a trade. I'm an MJD owner in a few leagues, and would LOVE to see him almost anywhere but Jax. But I don't see it happening either. Khan could see it as caving in just as much as renegotiating a new contract. So I don't see it happening.
As for a trade. I'm an MJD owner in a few leagues, and would LOVE to see him almost anywhere but Jax. But I don't see it happening either. Khan could see it as caving in just as much as renegotiating a new contract. So I don't see it happening.
