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*** OFFICIAL *** 13/14 Off-Season Dynasty Trade Thread (1 Viewer)
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Dr. Octopus
Footballguy
Super cheap for Foles. The counter to an offer I made for Foles was asking for my 1.07 and 2.12, which I thought wasn't crazy but just more than I was willing to pay based on my team since I have Russell Wilson already and would rather use the 1.07 on another position.
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Coeur de Lion
Footballguy
Right, because a meaningless week 17 game and one playoff game where they unexpectedly lost Charles d/t injury tells the entire story about how they'd gameplan in the face of losing Charles for a long period of time.
samkongado
Footballguy
Speaking of Foles:
Gave-
Nick Foles
Got-
Stefon Diggs
Dwayne Allen
12 tm devy league - 1 QB
May be a little light for Foles but I have Brees and wanted to get some value for Foles without just giving him away. Hard to get a lot of trade value for a QB in this league typically.
Gave-
Nick Foles
Got-
Stefon Diggs
Dwayne Allen
12 tm devy league - 1 QB
May be a little light for Foles but I have Brees and wanted to get some value for Foles without just giving him away. Hard to get a lot of trade value for a QB in this league typically.
ghostguy123
Footballguy
If Charles got hurt, Davis would get the majority of the touches. Not sure why that's a question. Mccluster??? Gray? Cmon.
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Concept Coop
Footballguy
I would rather hold on to Foles, myself. But you're right; QB value is all over the place in established leagues, especially 12 teamers. As you own Brees, I don't think you got bad value, even though I would have passed.
Concept Coop
Footballguy
thriftyrocker
Footballguy
Coeur de Lion
Footballguy
That's not the argument. The argument is whether or not Davis steps into Charles' full role and provides top-10 RB production. Of course Davis would get "the majority of the touches." Personally I doubt that he's effective enough to be fully featured as both a runner and receiver over a long stretch of games. YMMV.
Dr. Octopus
Footballguy
Garcon may not be the most talented WR in the league, but the guy produces. I would surely take the Austin and Patterson side however.
thriftyrocker
Footballguy
Yeah, I realize Garcon could outproduce Patterson for 2 years and it would look foolish but I think it is worth the gamble in a lot of cases. If you can't afford to lose Garcon you don't do it (in a theoretical trade for just Patterson).
ghostguy123
Footballguy
Good question. Alex smith? Nobody worth having. mccluster in a pinch in ppr to get you 10 points.
ghostguy123
Footballguy
If you are saying Davis is not a top 10 rb, then duh. Is anyone saying otherwise? Not many guys can fill charless shoes.
I also don't think pierce would be top 10 either.
Coeur de Lion
Footballguy
ghostguy123
Footballguy
Oh, well, no. That is one hell of a stretch.
beef
Footballguy
Me too but easy. Would only do it if I was wr desperate.
LBH
Footballguy
Alshon for me pretty easily. I'm not sold on Martin
thriftyrocker
Footballguy
Obviously there's a huge difference between RB1 and RB10. Maybe 9 or 10 points again, 40% of the production. I don't think "RB10+" is unreasonable especially if it is a 4-6 week stretch in the mid-late part of the season if he can come in with fresh legs. While you're right he is injury prone and hasn't set the world on fire, he has pluses too including coach, QB, and ability to break an occasional long one. He doesn't have 130+ total yards every week and at least one score, but he gets most the running TDs, decent yardage and decent receptions. Barring injury I don't think DMc, Sherman, or Gray are any threat to low RB1 type of upside. Of course I think there's about 200 RBs in the world who have RB2 upside, so the fact that KC/Reid tend to feature a RB and the offense is WC and dink/dunk, I think a lot of those 200 would be nice adds if they were in the same situation as Knile. My only concern really is projecting too much from 2013. A lot of things are possible, including KC crashing back to earth, their OL not being as strong, their D not being as strong. I mean, a lot of Ben Tate owners out there praying and hoping for a chance for him to start, but when that happens the team is terrible and there's a revolving door at QB, so who knows about KC. I have some faith in Reid to put an offense out there, though, regardless of circumstance.
Spin
Footballguy
Just did this one:
10 team, start 1 qb,2rb,3wr,1te,1flex(any),+ idp. 1ppr.
I gave:
Trent Richardson (6 years left) + 1.10
He gave:
About 60% of his FABB for the year.
This can be used in our upcoming RFA period, where players up for bid consist of Megatron, McCoy, AP, Peyton, Dez Bryant, Harvin etc.
I needed the cash to try to protect Megatron (I can match the highest offer) or make a push for Bryant/Harvin as a consolation prize if I lose Megatron. He was about middle of pack as far as budget was concerned and had no key RFA to try to protect. This puts me at # 2 with a decent margin between 3rd. Although there are some nuances, as a majority of those players will likely receive the Franchise Tag, making them extremely expensive and likely unobtainable.
Fwiw mid first round picks usually sell for about 40% of the yearly FABB.
10 team, start 1 qb,2rb,3wr,1te,1flex(any),+ idp. 1ppr.
I gave:
Trent Richardson (6 years left) + 1.10
He gave:
About 60% of his FABB for the year.
This can be used in our upcoming RFA period, where players up for bid consist of Megatron, McCoy, AP, Peyton, Dez Bryant, Harvin etc.
I needed the cash to try to protect Megatron (I can match the highest offer) or make a push for Bryant/Harvin as a consolation prize if I lose Megatron. He was about middle of pack as far as budget was concerned and had no key RFA to try to protect. This puts me at # 2 with a decent margin between 3rd. Although there are some nuances, as a majority of those players will likely receive the Franchise Tag, making them extremely expensive and likely unobtainable.
Fwiw mid first round picks usually sell for about 40% of the yearly FABB.
If you got the equivalent of a late first for TRich I think I would have kept him.
If it turns into Dez it was a good deal.
Spin
Footballguy
Yah, it's a gamble. Really depends on how people's "snotes" change as people start jockeying before our RFA period starts. Could end up that I need even more if I wanna try to protect Megatron and go after another player.
althepostman
Footballguy
12 Team NOn Ppr
Gave Reuben Randle
got Shane Vereen
Gave Reuben Randle
got Shane Vereen
msudaisy26
Footballguy
msudaisy26
Footballguy
msudaisy26
Footballguy
Matt's Eagles
Footballguy
Three deals that just went down
12 team dynasty PPR TE bonus
Trade 1
Team A gets
AP and pick 1.6
Team B gets Lesean McCoy
Trade 2
Team C gets
Dwayne Bowe, Ridley and pick 2.5
Team D gets
Roddy White, Greshem and a 2015 3rd rounde
Trade 3
Team E gets
Julio Jones
Team F gets
Dez Bryant
12 team dynasty PPR TE bonus
Trade 1
Team A gets
AP and pick 1.6
Team B gets Lesean McCoy
Trade 2
Team C gets
Dwayne Bowe, Ridley and pick 2.5
Team D gets
Roddy White, Greshem and a 2015 3rd rounde
Trade 3
Team E gets
Julio Jones
Team F gets
Dez Bryant
One More Rep
Footballguy
msudaisy26
Footballguy
Soulfly3
Footballguy
Going rate.
I gave away nelson for 1.04 and a 1st next year. Hes in win now mode and I took advantage
bengalbuck
Footballguy
12 team PPR
Thomas Tyner
For
TY Hilton
Thomas Tyner
For
TY Hilton
djmich
Footballguy
Alshon's bad year was his rookie year man, that is meaningless after putting up 1,500 in his second year. He has 8-9 yrs of high level production left. Martin's bad year was last year, the guys that came in after him put up numbers as good or as better, they're not going away and the new OC has said he wants a multi-back system. That aside, Martin has at most 4yrs of high level production left.msudaisy26 said:
I could see the case for either, but I'll take Alshon
bicycle_seat_sniffer
Smells like chicken
msudaisy26
Footballguy
Saying the guys that came in after played better is a misperception, James had one nice game and on a small sample size he did average 5 ypc, Rainey averaged 3.77 ypc with a couple of nice games and Martin was 3.60 with one nice game. Coaches can say what they want but I doubt he is going to have a 3 back system with Martin, Rainey and James. The Bucs were a mess for most of the year.
One More Rep
Footballguy
r0llin_game
Footballguy
Devy league.
Tyner is going to be a sophomore for Oregon next year. Was a five star recruit and ranked 12th (2nd RB) overall.
ConnSKINS26
Footballguy
loose circuits
Footballguy
12 team ppr
#11 gave up:
Lewis, Dion CLE RB
Todman, Jordan JAC RB
Jones, Julio ATL WR
Year 2015 Round 4 Draft Pick from THROW IT TO #11
Year 2015 Round 5 Draft Pick from THROW IT TO #11
The Real McCoy gave up:
Blackmon, Justin JAC WR
Shorts, Cecil JAC WR
Cameron, Jordan CLE TE
Year 2014 Draft Pick 2.05
Year 2014 Draft Pick 2.06
Year 2014 Draft Pick 2.08
Year 2014 Draft Pick 2.09
Year 2014 Draft Pick 3.09
Year 2015 Round 1 Draft Pick from The Real McCoy
Year 2015 Round 2 Draft Pick from The Real McCoy (mid? Pending if baker/Lewis or Todman/Robinson work out could be high)
#11 gave up:
Lewis, Dion CLE RB
Todman, Jordan JAC RB
Jones, Julio ATL WR
Year 2015 Round 4 Draft Pick from THROW IT TO #11
Year 2015 Round 5 Draft Pick from THROW IT TO #11
The Real McCoy gave up:
Blackmon, Justin JAC WR
Shorts, Cecil JAC WR
Cameron, Jordan CLE TE
Year 2014 Draft Pick 2.05
Year 2014 Draft Pick 2.06
Year 2014 Draft Pick 2.08
Year 2014 Draft Pick 2.09
Year 2014 Draft Pick 3.09
Year 2015 Round 1 Draft Pick from The Real McCoy
Year 2015 Round 2 Draft Pick from The Real McCoy (mid? Pending if baker/Lewis or Todman/Robinson work out could be high)
Gandalf the Grey
Footballguy
I think I like the other side, particularly if I'm rebuilding and it's a TE req league. Lot of nice value with all those picks.
cstu
Footballguy
cstu
Footballguy
There's a high likelihood that those 2nd's are busts, I wouldn't expect much from them. The entire trade hinges on Blackmon staying sober - not a bet I'd like to take with a player like Julio.
JohnnyU
Footballguy
A lot can happen in 3 years. Bryce Brown was once the best thing since slice bread too. Remember the phenom Delmon Young in baseball? I consider it a huge risk taking players just out of HS (just remembering Tyner and EBF taking him last year). I'm not saying Tyner will be a bust, but the risk is there, even if he's the next ADP.
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While I know who he is I really have trouble with those 2+ year projects.
I don't even really like TY but I will keep the guy who plays the next 2 years even if the other guy is the next ADP. I think I would opt for a less risky return on TY.
