Did she get naked? I gave up on the show, but I could give it another shot if this were the case.Thandie Newton really is an all-timer. Geez.
Perfect.
Did she get naked? I gave up on the show, but I could give it another shot if this were the case.Thandie Newton really is an all-timer. Geez.
Perfect.
yesDid she get naked? I gave up on the show, but I could give it another shot if this were the case.
Is it just me or does she have one puffy nipple and one normal nipple?
I was too busy with vinegar strokes to noticeIs it just me or does she have one puffy nipple and one normal nipple?
Any chance MIB is William?Pretty sure Ed Harris is the good guy here.
I am rooting for:
- Ed Harris/MIB
- Delores
- Willam
- Maeve
- Lesbian Programmer
- Arnold/Bernard
We never saw him rape her, did we? I do wonder if he planted the gun in the hay for her to use later .Of course, the main issue I have with my own thought is, I cant wrap my mind around William (years later as MIB) raping Delores.
I see this being repeated here and with other shows. I rarely get it. For example, why after 5 episodes am I supposed to have this overwhelming feeling about a character that I'm essentially rooting for it and it only? For WW, I still think we're breaking ground. Maybe that's too long for some people, I'm not sure but like I said I don't get it. I do think WW has been written, at least partially, to this point for the viewer to empathize with Delores and Maeve. Maybe there are no other characters to "root for" yet, but just about every main character in this show has piqued my interest, and that's most important to me right now.I do understand the criticism that the show hasn't really given you a character to care about.
He was loading the bodies up with the stolen nitro glycerin and replacing the nitro in the bottles going to the Confederales with tequila. Those corpse bombs are now on the train that Lawrence, William, and Dolores are on.What was Lawrence doing with slim when delores stumbled upon them
I think every show is different. I was frustrated with the characterization of The Walking Dead by this point in the show. It was clear it was going to be a show about the way the zombie apocalypse strips the survivors of their humanity (the survivors are "the walking dead"), so I thought not having actual relatable human characters at the outset was a major problem with the show. I haven't watched it with any regularity since they were holed up on Hershel's farm because it never evolved into a show I could care about.I see this being repeated here and with other shows. I rarely get it. For example, why after 5 episodes am I supposed to have this overwhelming feeling about a character that I'm essentially rooting for it and it only? For WW, I still think we're breaking ground. Maybe that's too long for some people, I'm not sure but like I said I don't get it. I do think WW has been written, at least partially, to this point for the viewer to empathize with Delores and Maeve. Maybe there are no other characters to "root for" yet, but just about every main character in this show has piqued my interest, and that's most important to me right now.
Whoa. Talk about missing out, IMO of course.I think every show is different. I was frustrated with the characterization of The Walking Dead by this point in the show. It was clear it was going to be a show about the way the zombie apocalypse strips the survivors of their humanity (the survivors are "the walking dead"), so I thought not having actual relatable human characters at the outset was a major problem with the show. I haven't watched it with any regularity since they were holed up on Hershel's farm because it never evolved into a show I could care about.
So I do get the complaint. This is a show that goes to great lengths to show the hosts being "dehumanized." That's a major point of the show at this point. The employees don't view them as human and the guests sure as hell don't. I trust that the show is going somewhere with that, but I think I'd probably give up on it at some point if we're in the third season and it still just feels like a puzzle show. Maybe not. If it sticks the landing on its puzzles, maybe I stick around. But it's hard to stick the landing on those (see, Lost, Battlestar Galatica, The X-Files etc.)
I've never watched a second of it and I watch too much TV. At some point, I'm sure I will. Maybe a winter long splurge is in order.Whoa. Talk about missing out, IMO of course.
Maybe. From the recaps, it still sounds mostly like torture porn to me.Whoa. Talk about missing out, IMO of course.
there are some really good moments mixed in with a lot of terrible ones in the seasons after the farm. also since then, it's become more about how civilization is regrowing, rather than how individuals are surviving (lots of that too). the civilizations are hugely cartoonish. I prefer the "quieter" individual moments in the show- look at the flowers episode was my favorite of the series... just carol, already forgot his name zombie fodder and two girls.Maybe. From the recaps, it still sounds mostly like torture porn to me.
I think he was talking about himself.So, is MIB the old greyhound that achieves his dream in bloody glory and then doesn't know what to do in the aftermath that Anthony Hopkins tells the story about in the opening scene of the last episode?
Come on man.I dont think there's two timelines. Seems plausible that they cleaned up Lawrence after Ed Harris killed him, and put him back at the beginning of his storyline overnight. That seems to be the MO from what we've seen.
Maybe a rival company trying to steal data?Most intriguing to me was the satellite uplink buried in the hosts arm. Wtf?
Why do you have to root for anyone?Pretty sure Ed Harris is the good guy here.
I am rooting for:
- Ed Harris/MIB
- Delores
- Willam
- Maeve
- Lesbian Programmer
- Arnold/Bernard
This show, along with several others, is really proving that television is now the best way to tell an intricate story. TV is officially better than movies.
Every good story has a protagonist and an antagonist.Why do you have to root for anyone?
I feel like I'm seeing a beautiful painting being slowly revealed. I still can't see the whole thing, but I like what I've seen thus far.
The only way it works is if he's super advanced, because he was absorbing those bullets like a human would. Based on that and some of the dialogue about him, I think it's far fetched and would be a real lame twist.I've not really read through this thread but does anyone else think Ed Harris may be a host himself?
Yeah, I guess technically they did not show it.We never saw him rape her, did we? I do wonder if he planted the gun in the hay for her to use later .
Not possible.The only way it works is if he's super advanced, because he was absorbing those bullets like a human would. Based on that and some of the dialogue about him, I think it's far fetched and would be a real lame twist.I've not really read through this thread but does anyone else think Ed Harris may be a host himself?
we're the robots.... man.Not possible.
Unless the 2 guys that wanted to thank him for what his foundation has done. Are also robots.
My biggest problem with the two timeline theory, is that if everything Delores is doing with William is in the past, it means that her becoming self aware all amounts to nothing anyway, as she is just another host in MIB timeline.Come on man.
My biggest problem with the two timeline theory, is that if everything Delores is doing with William is in the past, it means that her becoming self aware all amounts to nothing anyway, as she is just another host in MIB timeline.
Which would make her whole self-awareness story line, entirely pointless. As it ultimately ends in nothing. "Hey, watch this robot become self aware and attempt to escape! Don't worry though, she was unsuccessful and gets reset. Only to end up right back where she was, what a waste of time that was".Good point, unless someone hit a re-set button her at some point.
Agreed - unless she failed/was killed during the maze in her first attempt...and completing the maze is the only path to self-awareness.Which would make her whole self-awareness story line, entirely pointless. As it ultimately ends in nothing. "Hey, watch this robot become self aware and attempt to escape! Don't worry though, she was unsuccessful and gets reset. Only to end up right back where she was, what a waste of time that was".
Seems dumb.
Me too, which is why it would be crappy to have it all amount to nothing.Agreed - unless she failed/was killed during the maze in her first attempt...and completing the maze is the only path to self-awareness.
I have no idea. I am rooting for her to figure it out.
Unless the original was killed in a park accident years ago and replaced with a host. Which may be a secret agenda to lure powerful people to the park and replace them with controlled hosts.Not possible.
Unless the 2 guys that wanted to thank him for what his foundation has done. Are also robots.
By that criteria, every tragedy amounts to nothing. The fact that Delores goes back to function as a host for 30 years would be tragic. It wouldn't mean "nothing" particularly if it was also the means by which the Delos corporation acquired financial control over the park (and instituted its own plans for the park). It certainly wouldn't mean nothing to William/MiB either.Which would make her whole self-awareness story line, entirely pointless. As it ultimately ends in nothing. "Hey, watch this robot become self aware and attempt to escape! Don't worry though, she was unsuccessful and gets reset. Only to end up right back where she was, what a waste of time that was".
Seems dumb.
Nocap'n grunge said:I've not really read through this thread but does anyone else think Ed Harris may be a host himself?
They were on the other side of her. The shot was toward the back of the train where they came in. William and Lawrence walked to the front of that car.For whatever it's worth, I went back to watch this week's episode again. One thing stood out - when Delores, William and Lawrence were on the train, after the short Mexican stand-off, Lawrence and William went to have a drink at the front of the car, while Delores stayed by the coffin with the maze stamped on it. When Delores said "I'm coming" she was the only one on the train.
So, absent, really bad editing, which I don't believe, Delores has been on that train several times/loops, with and without William. Much like the scene at her house where we saw one scene where she gets shot, and another where she escapes, within the same sequence.
It starts out with that perspective, then pans around to show the front of the car, and William and Lawrence are gone.They were on the other side of her. The shot was toward the back of the train where they came in. William and Lawrence walked to the front of that car.
No, I doubled checked the scene. I am pretty sure the camera panned and showed the front of the train - much of the other scenery - including the box of tequila was the same, and the foot of the coffin faced toward the front.They were on the other side of her. The shot was toward the back of the train where they came in. William and Lawrence walked to the front of that car.
Your right. They are not there. But it may be the scene is trying to emphasize Delores is so focused on whatever the hell she is doing, she has zoned them out.No, I doubled checked the scene. I am pretty sure the camera panned and showed the front of the train - much of the other scenery - including the box of tequila was the same, and the foot of the coffin faced toward the front.
I am assuming the maze has something to do with Arnold - who died 34 years ago.Isnt it bernard who tells delores about the maze? And isnt that in the "present day" timeline? And she is searching for the maze with william, right?
You better hope Chet doesnt read this postYour right. They are not there. But it may be the scene is trying to emphasize Delores is so focused on whatever the hell she is doing, she has zoned them out.
Nah. She came close to self awareness or got there in the William timeline, then got reset, and now the reveries are pulling her back toward consciousness in the present. IMOSpin said:My biggest problem with the two timeline theory, is that if everything Delores is doing with William is in the past, it means that her becoming self aware all amounts to nothing anyway, as she is just another host in MIB timeline.
No, that is not correct.They were on the other side of her. The shot was toward the back of the train where they came in. William and Lawrence walked to the front of that car.