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Snyder may have a point there, but to interview Williams 4 times and keep shopping is ridiculous. What are you going to learn in interviews, 2, 3, and 4 that you didn't already know with the guy as your DC? Snyder is a complete tool.
It speaks volumes when the owner bypasses the teams top coordinators and hires outside the organization like what the Ravens did with Ryan and what the Redskins appear to be doing with Saunders and Williams.With Zorn hired already to be the OC its pretty much a given that Fassel will be the new HC. Thats good news for Dallas fans.Honestly, there have been so many unfounded and ultimately disproven rumors out there, I don't simply accept this as true. Could it be? Sure. But I'm not just going to believe it. Anyway, there are plenty of other reasons to believe that Williams is not who they're going to hire as the head coach there besides this, so . . .
I'm not so sure that's true. Fassel was all over the papers acting like a jilted lover, saying he'd felt "used" given that Snyder had apparently backed off from being hot to hire him, apparently after a fan backlash. Are they going to hire him now?It speaks volumes when the owner bypasses the teams top coordinators and hires outside the organization like what the Ravens did with Ryan and what the Redskins appear to be doing with Saunders and Williams.With Zorn hired already to be the OC its pretty much a given that Fassel will be the new HC. Thats good news for Dallas fans.Honestly, there have been so many unfounded and ultimately disproven rumors out there, I don't simply accept this as true. Could it be? Sure. But I'm not just going to believe it.
Anyway, there are plenty of other reasons to believe that Williams is not who they're going to hire as the head coach there besides this, so . . .
exactly my thoughts. Tribute = small gesture, meaningless as far as coaching abilityNot informing your boss of a move that will obviously draw national attention = bad sign of things internal
Wanna trade owners?Snyder is a complete idiot. He is not going to hire him over a tribute to Sean Taylor? This man is running this team into the ground!
DEAL! Sign on the dotted line:______________________________________________Al Davis can't have that many years left in him, Snyder will torture us for many years to come.....that is unless Al Davis is a cyborg like I suspect. In which case the fine print will dissolve this contract.Wanna trade owners?Snyder is a complete idiot. He is not going to hire him over a tribute to Sean Taylor? This man is running this team into the ground!
Danny and Vinny Cerrato are probably just upset that they didn't know about it so they could have "10-Man Tribute" commemorative coins (with an image of Taylor's iconic #21 Jersey on one side!) for sale in the ubiquitous Redskins Stores around the DC Area.
Reports I've read had Williams campaigning for Saunders to be hired two years ago. I'm not sure I buy the story about the two of them not getting along.
DEAL! Sign on the dotted line:______________________________________________Al Davis can't have that many years left in him, Snyder will torture us for many years to come.....that is unless Al Davis is a cyborg like I suspect. In which case the fine print will dissolve this contract.Wanna trade owners?Snyder is a complete idiot. He is not going to hire him over a tribute to Sean Taylor? This man is running this team into the ground!
It's the ownership version of dumping salary, except that we're dumping baggage. 
This is what I was thinking. I seem to remember news that the tribute was going to happen well before the game.
I don't remember that. My recollection was that they were talking about doing something to honor Taylor, but my recollection was nobody was talking about going with 10 men on the first play. Regardless, what has been leaked to the media need not have been conveyed to Gibbs. Gibbs himself after the game said he didn't know about it, and he had every reason to want to say the opposite given the questions that that raised about how in control and in touch he was with his own team. Williams screwed that one up.
Dont they give him 4 n e ways, he seemed to think so!!!
Type more, text less. TIA.Dont they give him 4 n e ways, he seemed to think so!!!
Good find. You're right on that then. I still refer you to Gibbs' own statements after the game that he was unaware of this, and he admitted that with every reason not to. For whatever reason, the media somehow knew about this and Gibbs did not.
They're now saying both him and Saunders have been dismissed altogether.http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=3215817
Same story at nfl.com.http://www.nfl.com/news/story?id=09000d5d8...mp;confirm=true
You seem to be factoring competency by Snyder into the equation.
You seem to be factoring competency by Snyder into the equation.
It was reported that they will start 10 players on defense just before the game. I remember reading it in the game thread that week. I figured that if it was being reported before the game that it was decided well before that. I also assumed that Gibbs would have known about it, but this thread is the first time I have heard that he said he didn't know. This whole thing is very strange anyway - from the lack of communication between Williams and Gibbs that week to now with the coaching search. Al Davis has the excuse that he is old, senile and just plain crazy. What is Snyder's excuse? Even though I am a Giants fan I feel sorry for Redskins fans for having to deal with Snyder indefinitely... at least a little sorry (because after all I am programmed to hate the Redskins).redman said:I don't remember that. My recollection was that they were talking about doing something to honor Taylor, but my recollection was nobody was talking about going with 10 men on the first play. Regardless, what has been leaked to the media need not have been conveyed to Gibbs. Gibbs himself after the game said he didn't know about it, and he had every reason to want to say the opposite given the questions that that raised about how in control and in touch he was with his own team. Williams screwed that one up.RC94 said:
Now, let's get back to the present. I have no doubt - zero, none - that this story about Williams disrespecting Gibbs in his interviews is a bunch of garbage. GW has done nothing but praise Gibbs for four years, and he didn't have to stick around that long if the opposite were true, especially because he has been and remains considered around the league as a good head coaching candidate. This looks like a smear campaign from the Redskins front office attempting to justify not hiring a guy who is very popular with both players and fans.
I can't tell you how much that disgusts me as a 'Skins fan to have to write something like that.
There is much to like about Snyder, but unfortunately his faults seem to overshadow his merits. The reality is setting in for 'Skins fans that the last four years was but a brief respite from those problems because Gibbs was uniquely qualified and influential enough to keep Snyder's issues in check, but now that he's gone it hasn't taken long for them to reemerge. It's also sinking in that given Snyder's age, we could be stuck with him as the owner for another 30-40 years.It was reported that they will start 10 players on defense just before the game. I remember reading it in the game thread that week. I figured that if it was being reported before the game that it was decided well before that. I also assumed that Gibbs would have known about it, but this thread is the first time I have heard that he said he didn't know. This whole thing is very strange anyway - from the lack of communication between Williams and Gibbs that week to now with the coaching search. Al Davis has the excuse that he is old, senile and just plain crazy. What is Snyder's excuse? Even though I am a Giants fan I feel sorry for Redskins fans for having to deal with Snyder indefinitely... at least a little sorry (because after all I am programmed to hate the Redskins).redman said:I don't remember that. My recollection was that they were talking about doing something to honor Taylor, but my recollection was nobody was talking about going with 10 men on the first play. Regardless, what has been leaked to the media need not have been conveyed to Gibbs. Gibbs himself after the game said he didn't know about it, and he had every reason to want to say the opposite given the questions that that raised about how in control and in touch he was with his own team. Williams screwed that one up.RC94 said:
Now, let's get back to the present. I have no doubt - zero, none - that this story about Williams disrespecting Gibbs in his interviews is a bunch of garbage. GW has done nothing but praise Gibbs for four years, and he didn't have to stick around that long if the opposite were true, especially because he has been and remains considered around the league as a good head coaching candidate. This looks like a smear campaign from the Redskins front office attempting to justify not hiring a guy who is very popular with both players and fans.
I can't tell you how much that disgusts me as a 'Skins fan to have to write something like that.
There is much to like about Snyder, but unfortunately his faults seem to overshadow his merits. The reality is setting in for 'Skins fans that the last four years was but a brief respite from those problems because Gibbs was uniquely qualified and influential enough to keep Snyder's issues in check, but now that he's gone it hasn't taken long for them to reemerge. It's also sinking in that given Snyder's age, we could be stuck with him as the owner for another 30-40 years.It was reported that they will start 10 players on defense just before the game. I remember reading it in the game thread that week. I figured that if it was being reported before the game that it was decided well before that. I also assumed that Gibbs would have known about it, but this thread is the first time I have heard that he said he didn't know. This whole thing is very strange anyway - from the lack of communication between Williams and Gibbs that week to now with the coaching search. Al Davis has the excuse that he is old, senile and just plain crazy. What is Snyder's excuse? Even though I am a Giants fan I feel sorry for Redskins fans for having to deal with Snyder indefinitely... at least a little sorry (because after all I am programmed to hate the Redskins).redman said:I don't remember that. My recollection was that they were talking about doing something to honor Taylor, but my recollection was nobody was talking about going with 10 men on the first play. Regardless, what has been leaked to the media need not have been conveyed to Gibbs. Gibbs himself after the game said he didn't know about it, and he had every reason to want to say the opposite given the questions that that raised about how in control and in touch he was with his own team. Williams screwed that one up.RC94 said:
Now, let's get back to the present. I have no doubt - zero, none - that this story about Williams disrespecting Gibbs in his interviews is a bunch of garbage. GW has done nothing but praise Gibbs for four years, and he didn't have to stick around that long if the opposite were true, especially because he has been and remains considered around the league as a good head coaching candidate. This looks like a smear campaign from the Redskins front office attempting to justify not hiring a guy who is very popular with both players and fans.
I can't tell you how much that disgusts me as a 'Skins fan to have to write something like that.
I love how Snyder will spend whatever it takes. However I was hoping that Gibbs2.0 might teach him a little patience get a little more football savy. Unfortunately it doesn't seem Gibbs rubbed off on him at all.
But I don't know if he'll be interested. Really, coaching prospects are soon going to start avoiding the Redskins if they haven't started doing so already. If you're the head coach, the OC and DC don't answer to you now, they answer to Snyder. It's a setup for a disastrous working relationship.bez18 said:
It's amazing how much the gains in goodwill and esteem around the league due to Gibbs' return can be pissed away in the span of less than three weeks, isn't it?
Williams should be brilliant with that defense if he's hired.
