Mr.Pack
Footballguy
I agree. I thought he was saying the penalty was bs.
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**Saturday Night Football on ABC - Lions 11-4 at Cowboys 10-5** (-5.5 , 52) 8:15 (2 Viewers)
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GroveDiesel
Footballguy
If this is Dector reporting, the NFL will have a LOT of explaining to do.
And before anyone continues on with ESPN saying it would have been an illegal formation, absolutely not. It was an unbalanced formation and the outside WR was off the line. Which made Decker essentially a TE. The formation was perfectly legal.
This could be an all time screw job. I really really hope audio someone comes out of what was said on that video clip I linked to.
And before anyone continues on with ESPN saying it would have been an illegal formation, absolutely not. It was an unbalanced formation and the outside WR was off the line. Which made Decker essentially a TE. The formation was perfectly legal.
This could be an all time screw job. I really really hope audio someone comes out of what was said on that video clip I linked to.
TwinTurbo
Footballguy
He did report though. Apparently the zebras didn't hear him
renesauz
IBL Representative
As a routine thing...no, I don't think its wise to always go needing 6 or 7. Pretty sure the stats would suggest kicking in both spots.
I thought the fake punt from his own 25 in a tight road game was far more silly then either of those decisions though, it just happened to work out then.
Ministry of Pain
Footballguy
I'm sorry but I let you have the mic on the last post, IT'S NOT a GOOD CALL!!!
Procedural, false start, crotch itch, head shake, poop in your pants, none of it matters when you can FORCE OT with a simple kick from the 7 yd line, that's nonsense to forgive Dan Campbell all the way thru...BIG CAHONES when it was from the 2 yd line, I'll give you that, not from the 7 yd line in that situation and given the fact he PISSED AWAY other scoring opps
Mr.Pack
Footballguy
No, no there is not.
Desert_Power
Footballguy
Ilov80s
Footballguy
they just showed it on TV with Aikman saying he was surely reporting eligible and saying the ref just missed it
dmac37
Footballguy
Was he asking the ref how the wife and kids are doing, of coarse that is why he went to the ref. I'm going to say it now, the Lions will go further than the Cowgirls in the playoffs.
renesauz
IBL Representative
wasn't arguing about the call going for it from the 7I'm sorry but I let you have the mic on the last post, IT'S NOT a GOOD CALL!!!
Procedural, false start, crotch itch, head shake, poop in your pants, none of it matters when you can FORCE OT with a simple kick from the 7 yd line, that's nonsense to forgive Dan Campbell all the way thru...BIG CAHONES when it was from the 2 yd line, I'll give you that, not from the 7 yd line in that situation and given the fact he PISSED AWAY other scoring opps
Leroy Hoard
Footballguy
Lions lost an overtime game earlier in the year where the offense never touched the ball.
GroveDiesel
Footballguy
Clear as day it’s a legal formation. (Thanks YPP).
If he reported as eligible, it’s a 2 point conversion. Period.
If he reported as eligible, it’s a 2 point conversion. Period.
Hot Sauce Guy
Footballguy
In my 16-team startup PPR IDP dynasty I dealt my 2024 1st & 2025 2nd for pick 1.14, with which I picked CeeDee Lamb.
It was worth every penny. If I’d made the LCG I’d be crushing my opponent. As it stands he’s likely gonna win me a 3.17 for 3rd place.
jabarony
Footballguy
Self-high-5!!!
Mr.Pack
Footballguy
He wasn’t covered anyway, even if he did report it was an illegal formation.
Snotbubbles
Footballguy
I asked up thread, when a player reports as eligible, doesn't the referee supposed to make an announcement that #68 has reported as eligible?
dickey moe
Fingerpicker
What does the NFL rulebook say about the ref acknowledging/accepting the report? Yes, I suppose it's a technicality, but a consequential one.
If the Lions had won out they would have leaped frogged Philly with the win over a common opponent, Dallas and would of had the 2 seed. The Luons only needed one loss by SF for the 1 seed. Now they are locked into 3rd.
Ilov80s
Footballguy
If he’s an eligible receiver, he doesn’t need to be covered in that unbalanced formation. I don’t fully grasp those rules but there’s a few retire NFL OL on Twitter posting that the refs got it wrong and it was legal.
renesauz
IBL Representative
It DOES mean they can punt week 18 and rest key starters though. The game is meaningless to them now (technically still alive for the 2 seed but would need Philly to lose at least one, maybe even both against cupcakes)
Houston turmOiler
Footballguy
Looks like Goff told Decker he had to report. Decker went over to Referee Brad Allen, and then Skipper came running in too. No reason for anyone going over to Allen if they weren't reporting eligible. Allen didn't seem very interested in anything anyone was saying.
Looking at the video, Allen either looks like he's on the take, or he's as clueless as Phil Luckett calling a Jerome Bettis coin toss.
Looking at the video, Allen either looks like he's on the take, or he's as clueless as Phil Luckett calling a Jerome Bettis coin toss.
rockaction
Footballguy
Gotta go for it on that first one.
Then you try to draw them off.
Now you're first and goal at the 3.5.
I wonder how much that yard matters.
Oh my what a game.
SO MUCH RESPECT FOR FREAKING DAN "WIN THE GAME AND DON'T WORRY ABOUT LOSING IT" CAMPBELL THAT I'M HOLLERING ABOUT IT
Then you try to draw them off.
Now you're first and goal at the 3.5.
I wonder how much that yard matters.
Oh my what a game.
SO MUCH RESPECT FOR FREAKING DAN "WIN THE GAME AND DON'T WORRY ABOUT LOSING IT" CAMPBELL THAT I'M HOLLERING ABOUT IT
Yenrub
Footballguy
Sure the pure analytics say go for it but when you suck all night in short yardage situations maybe just maybe consider game flow
jabarony
Footballguy
Not this fan. I was ok with the first even if I thought kick. Absolutely you kick from the 7.
themeistersinger
Footballguy
Yes the ref does announce it. And he did announce that #70 reported as eligible. He did not announce that #68 reported as eligible.
rockaction
Footballguy
****ing hope that's not the case, because that would fry me. Just make me livid. I don't care about not covering the receiver. Let them call that if they catch it. But the call was a non-report, so any of this ******** "yeah, but even if. . . " just chafes me. Save it for your appellate brief.
Moonlight
Footballguy
Include me in the minority
Snotbubbles
Footballguy
Just looked it up, the referee makes an announcement that a player is eligible. So without being in the stadium to hear if the referee acknowledged #68 as eligible there's no way to know if #68 reported and was acknowledged as eligible by the referee.
rockaction
Footballguy
Mr.Pack
Footballguy
All there is is speculation. No one including the refs heard him actually report. Campbell just said on the presser that 70 did report and that only one player could report at a time. I fully don’t understand that rule but that’s what he just said.
Todem
Footballguy
Mr.Pack
Footballguy
Going to need audio and a replay where the ref announced it.
Ilov80s
Footballguy
I believe from what I’m seeing online- decker did not need to be covered if he was eligible
GroveDiesel
Footballguy
I’m fairly certain multiple players can report as eligible at the same time. If they gave Campbell that explanation, this whole crew should be fired.
TwinTurbo
Footballguy
Got to disagree. It was the ultimate alpha call. Love it. I wouldn't trade Dan Campbell for a thousand Mike McCarthys.I'm sorry but I let you have the mic on the last post, IT'S NOT a GOOD CALL!!!
Procedural, false start, crotch itch, head shake, poop in your pants, none of it matters when you can FORCE OT with a simple kick from the 7 yd line, that's nonsense to forgive Dan Campbell all the way thru...BIG CAHONES when it was from the 2 yd line, I'll give you that, not from the 7 yd line in that situation and given the fact he PISSED AWAY other scoring opps
Ministry of Pain
Footballguy
I have to ask, please do not take offense, is this true?
Is that internet speculation or is it in print?
-I'm only asking because it will really sour me for future games. This cannot happen under any circumstances the way you described it. If I were Goodell I would launch an enitire investigation into it behind the scenes with the same fervor he's shown for other problems like Inflate-Gate and the event that triggered pink shoes and wristbands(it wasn't breast cancer)
...it's not because I had money riding on this game but I am left very bitter after having so much fun earlier and just letting it go as an NFL fan for once.
Ilov80s
Footballguy
True but also can you even hear those announcements in that situation? Could Decker have possible recognized he didn’t get called eligible?
GroveDiesel
Footballguy
Not sure if this is true or not, but I just saw on Twitter someone say that #70 said he didn’t actually report.
I really hope we get a full answer in the pool report from the refs on this one.
ChiefD
Footballguy
Campbell gets no pass from me because you cannot coach reckless 100% of the time. He flat out gives away points during games. At some point you have to coach situationally.
The two point conversion call was fine other than the fact his dumb decisions earlier put them in that position. And they got screwed on the call. Welcome to the **** NFL.
But you gotta bury that to give your team a chance to win. Especially now when seeding effing matters.
Campbell failed his team. I’m sorry - he just did.
The two point conversion call was fine other than the fact his dumb decisions earlier put them in that position. And they got screwed on the call. Welcome to the **** NFL.
But you gotta bury that to give your team a chance to win. Especially now when seeding effing matters.
Campbell failed his team. I’m sorry - he just did.
They just showed Decker walking to the ref, said something, and the ref nodded.I have to ask, please do not take offense, is this true?
Is that internet speculation or is it in print?
-I'm only asking because it will really sour me for future games. This cannot happen under any circumstances the way you described it. If I were Goodell I would launch an enitire investigation into it behind the scenes with the same fervor he's shown for other problems like Inflate-Gate and the event that triggered pink shoes and wristbands(it wasn't breast cancer)
...it's not because I had money riding on this game but I am left very bitter after having so much fun earlier and just letting it go as an NFL fan for once.
Capella
Footballguy
Ok but then game flow was they just went 80 yards in 60 seconds.
rockaction
Footballguy
Decker and his cohort were telling the ref. The ref walked away when number seventy was trying to tell him. I think he earnestly may never have seen the offending player report.
I don't even know who is the offender at this point. But it's quite clear #68 is reporting as eligible. If it was him, then they blew the call.
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