FantasyGuru#1
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He had some swelling after the game.. Will this be a year long occurrence.... Can perhaps he have soemthign in his knee... Any more info on this matter...
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:MERGED: Westbrooks Knee & PHI RB situation (1 Viewer)
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diesel7982
Footballguy
....still monday....we won't know anything until reports are out on wednesday....
FantasyGuru#1
Footballguy
Something must be causing that swelling though.... that is never a good sighn...
stevegamer
Footballguy
If I remember right, he doesn't have all his ligaments. No ACL in at least one knee, but that's been known since the draft.
FantasyGuru#1
Footballguy
so your saying this is normal for him.. I don;t remeber this happening last year with him...
sheerterror
Footballguy
NO ACL? Or repaired ACL? The former is impossible.
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Lemmiwinks
Footballguy
You cannot possibly play football WITHOUT an ACL. It might not be his original ligament, but what you are suggesting is medically impossible.
If Westbrook was hurting on sunday, I sure didn't notice. He looked like the fastest player on the field.
If Westbrook was hurting on sunday, I sure didn't notice. He looked like the fastest player on the field.
Nigel Tufnel
Footballguy
Is there a shred of factual information in this thread? TIA.
diesel7982
Footballguy
Ive always heard no ACL. Same as Elway.
ShaqAttaq
Morally Ambiguous
yes you can
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trader jake
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John Elway played his entire career without an ACL. He tore it as a senior in high school and (by today's standards) it was not properly surgically repaired.Westbrook is always banged up and always seems to play 14 games. At some point he will miss a few games...everyone who has Westbrook on their team knows this. I'd rather it occur near Philly's bye week rather than during the fantasy playoffs.
Big Score
Footballguy
You probably should've informed Elway about that. Poor guy played for years & won a couple of Super Bowls, while doing the medically impossible.
thats correct
FantasyGuru#1
Footballguy
bump
buck naked
Footballguy
Dude. You are so wrong. I play basketball with a guy with no ACL. Its torn, yet he functions. So there.
Capella
Footballguy
Nigel Tufnel
Footballguy
Skinsfansince72
Footballguy
News Story: Reid also said Brian Westbrook's knee strain “bothered him just a bit” Sunday.
Fantasy Analysis: Westbrook will be on the injury report but is expected to start.
Source: Fantasy Insights
Fantasy Analysis: Westbrook will be on the injury report but is expected to start.
Source: Fantasy Insights
Lemmiwinks
Footballguy
Why are you out for the year when you tear your ACL then? If everyone can play without that ligament, why miss the rest of the season for surgery? Just strap it on and get out there sissies!Or maybe it's because that ligament provides stability to the rest of the knee without which you could not perform athletically.If I'm wrong, so be it, but it doesn't make sense that guys stop playing for a year and have surgery when you can just play without the ligament.
AcousticNut
Footballguy
shadow2k
Footballguy
It completely depends on the severity of the injury, the person in question, and their tolerance for pain.Ward ruptured his ACL when he was 9, and it was never repaired.
Jimmy Hitchcock didn't need any ACL's at all...
BrentBlack
Footballguy
You'll regret it.
beat me to it, still think that's incredibleFWIW knee swelling is common amongst athletes that have had previous knee surgery. IIRC the swelling got him some rest late in the week of practice so I don't think it was a game injury. I'd also swear I saw Reid called it inflammation
Lord of Football
Footballguy
Thanks. Can we please take the ACL debate somewhere else?
Thanks Sigmund. I'd always known Elway's but didn't know that about Ward. What's his story?I have a friend that just had ACL surgery and I told him I'd strongly consider not having it. For someone his age (40) and not especially athletic anymore, I'd wonder if the negatives of surgery and rehab were worth the negatives of not having an ACL.J
Nigel Tufnel
Footballguy
I tore mine and before the surgery, my knee felt very unstable. Based on what my doctor told me, it's very surprising that there are professional athletes out there without them.
He ruptured it as a kid, never had it fixed - but it wasnt discovered until his college days (I believe in the pre-draft period). It probably caused him to fall farther in the draft that he should have.
FantasyGuru#1
Footballguy
Westbrook is listed as questionable and had some soreness..... Hopefully he will be upgraded to probable by sunday..Sigmund Bloom said:
FantasyGuru#1
Footballguy
Question here is what is really wrong with Westbrook knee... Can it be something that lingers on from week to week until it finally shuts him down for the season like what happened to Mcnabb last year with his hernia...
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AcousticNut
Footballguy
From PhiladelphiaEagles.com
Sounds like something they're going to try to limp through with. I would guess that as long as the knee's not getting worse, and Westy is still producing, they'll rest him during the week and play him on Sundays.Just a thought.
hellz_fireflies
Footballguy
Doctor Detroit
Please remove your headgear
"Questionable" for Sunday's game. 
SackDiesel808
Footballguy
Just what Philly needs - another superstar that doesn't practice.
Someone post the link to the previous thread quoting Iverson. My original thought on the quote was that 'not practicing' is something that Philly fans, media, etc. are already familiar with. Kinda like a seed may have been planted in Westbrooks head. Maybe he shoots pool with Iverson, who pitched him the idea. 
If you can get away with not practicing, but still produce on gameday then more power to you I say.
Wally Cleaver
Footballguy
He was on Sirius satelite today and he said he would be fine for Sunday... All precautionary as there is some soreness but nothing out of the ordinary... Sorry no link as this was on the radio.
Wally,Are you sure that it wasn't Eddie Haskel just trying to pull your leg?
AcousticNut
Footballguy
Nigel Tufnel
Footballguy
Westbrook.
joffer
Footballguy
just when you thought the thread was totally useless....thanks Wally
Gbagzz
Footballguy
I don't care what the players say I care what the coaches say. Right now he's questionable and we all know he's never played a full season as well as having season ending injuries. If he's out Buck is the man and he's playing San Franjust when you thought the thread was totally useless....thanks Wally
While the suckers are fighting over Buckhalter, do the smart thing and pick up Moats.
Buck Bradcanon
Footballguy
"I don't care what the players say I care what the coaches say"
thanks so much wally..very good stuff there from sirius..
thanks so much wally..very good stuff there from sirius..
coolnerd
Footballguy
Not sound alarmist or anything, but I am pretty sure you can find similiar type quotes from the texans last year regarding DomDavis.
Lemmiwinks
Footballguy
He's only had one major season ending injury, last year. Other than that he has been reasonable healthy every other year of his NFL career.BTW, Good posting from the guy who heard Westy on the radio.I don't care what the players say I care what the coaches say. Right now he's questionable and we all know he's never played a full season as well as having season ending injuries. If he's out Buck is the man and he's playing San Franjust when you thought the thread was totally useless....thanks Wally
FantasyGuru#1
Footballguy
How do we know that this isn't a similar issue to what Dom hd last year and he finally got shut down.... Something has to be causing the swelling.. Normal players do not go through this..He's only had one major season ending injury, last year. Other than that he has been reasonable healthy every other year of his NFL career.BTW, Good posting from the guy who heard Westy on the radio.I don't care what the players say I care what the coaches say. Right now he's questionable and we all know he's never played a full season as well as having season ending injuries. If he's out Buck is the man and he's playing San Franjust when you thought the thread was totally useless....thanks Wally
I don't want to put words in your mouth but it's as if you are trying to paint a picture of Westbrook as a guy who basically has had one injury in his career and other than that has been a beacon of health. That's false. He's only been avialable to start 75% of his games over the past 2 seasons and has missed a game every year. He battled a foot problem over the pre-season and is already battling a swelling knee and we've got a long way to go this season. It's not a matter of if he will miss a game it's just a matter of how many and I'd be shocked if he makes it to his customary 75% this year.
Bartguy
Footballguy
Sorry, I don't know where I read it, but there was something about his knee swelling being related to the orthotics he's wearing to protect the sprained foot. (I'll try to dig up where I read this.) I don't think I've ever read that he's had chronic knee issues in the pros. His usual dings are hit-related, ribs and stuff. Although last year he had a Lis Franc foot sprain. So I'm more worried about chronic foot problems.
Also, as someone who's had two ACL tears and reconstructions, if you don't get it repaired you run a big risk of grinding your cartilidge to dust since your knee joint is unstable and moves around too much. Also, another side effect of a torn ACL is your knee giving out when you put weight on it. Elway is by far the exception, not the rule -- maybe the rest of his ligaments were exceptionally tight, so he didn't have much instability.
Also, as someone who's had two ACL tears and reconstructions, if you don't get it repaired you run a big risk of grinding your cartilidge to dust since your knee joint is unstable and moves around too much. Also, another side effect of a torn ACL is your knee giving out when you put weight on it. Elway is by far the exception, not the rule -- maybe the rest of his ligaments were exceptionally tight, so he didn't have much instability.
