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I disagree. Other than a slow start, it had some great moments in it (Pete/Harry fight. Joan's awkward hug of Dawn, Peggy's smile, Insurance guy, Don having a moment with Bobby, plus him actually opening up to Megan about not wanting kids).
Don't think it was empathy. Peter was filled with self-loathe after the wife basically said neither she nor the kids needed/wanted him. Peter's over the top indignation was him trying to prove to himself that he is not a monster.Not all narcissistic people are sociopaths or detached from reality and incapable of empathy. Didn't find that at all hard to believe.Pete may be a self-absorbed asswipe, but he'll be damned if anyone is going to denigrate MLK. Yeah, okay.
I didn't get that at all. I just think he was emotionally raw, feeling the gravity of what's going on around him, and didn't really have the patience for Harry's idiocy. Pete's a bit of a basket case.Don't think it was empathy. Peter was filled with self-loathe after the wife basically said neither she nor the kids needed/wanted him. Peter's over the top indignation was him trying to prove to himself that he is not a monster.Not all narcissistic people are sociopaths or detached from reality and incapable of empathy. Didn't find that at all hard to believe.Pete may be a self-absorbed asswipe, but he'll be damned if anyone is going to denigrate MLK. Yeah, okay.
How was Harry being an idiot?I didn't get that at all. I just think he was emotionally raw, feeling the gravity of what's going on around him, and didn't really have the patience for Harry's idiocy. Pete's a bit of a basket case.Don't think it was empathy. Peter was filled with self-loathe after the wife basically said neither she nor the kids needed/wanted him. Peter's over the top indignation was him trying to prove to himself that he is not a monster.Not all narcissistic people are sociopaths or detached from reality and incapable of empathy. Didn't find that at all hard to believe.Pete may be a self-absorbed asswipe, but he'll be damned if anyone is going to denigrate MLK. Yeah, okay.
Because something traumatizing had just happened and he's whining like a child about his ads not getting run.How was Harry being an idiot?I didn't get that at all. I just think he was emotionally raw, feeling the gravity of what's going on around him, and didn't really have the patience for Harry's idiocy. Pete's a bit of a basket case.Don't think it was empathy. Peter was filled with self-loathe after the wife basically said neither she nor the kids needed/wanted him. Peter's over the top indignation was him trying to prove to himself that he is not a monster.Not all narcissistic people are sociopaths or detached from reality and incapable of empathy. Didn't find that at all hard to believe.Pete may be a self-absorbed asswipe, but he'll be damned if anyone is going to denigrate MLK. Yeah, okay.
Because he couldn't see past the almighty dollar to see the larger issue. But I don't think he is a racist as Pete said, I think he is just an idiotHow was Harry being an idiot?I didn't get that at all. I just think he was emotionally raw, feeling the gravity of what's going on around him, and didn't really have the patience for Harry's idiocy. Pete's a bit of a basket case.Don't think it was empathy. Peter was filled with self-loathe after the wife basically said neither she nor the kids needed/wanted him. Peter's over the top indignation was him trying to prove to himself that he is not a monster.Not all narcissistic people are sociopaths or detached from reality and incapable of empathy. Didn't find that at all hard to believe.Pete may be a self-absorbed asswipe, but he'll be damned if anyone is going to denigrate MLK. Yeah, okay.
That doesn't make him an idiot. It might make him insensitive but not stupid.
Sure it does. Life is bigger than business. If you're (not YOU) so narrow-minded that you think a day of ad revenue on soaps trumps something like that, you are an idiot.
Declaring his petty annoyance that people are more concerned with a national tragedy than a day of his ad revenue is his job? Tone deafness is a symptom of idiocy in this case.That's his job, man.
OK
Forget it.
Icould see it. And I wish that storyline was more front & center, if only because I grew up in Fairfield county where they live and it's pretty typical.
Meant to but my DVR wasn't set.
It's Peggy's apartment.
I agree with the folks that said Pete's blowup at Harry wasn't because he was upset at MLK dying. He was upset that Trudy had rebuffed his attempt at reconciliation.
Say what? Are you talking about how Pete was trying to figure out a way to sell more TVs to "negroes"?
That was where he started, but as he progessed he really came to be in tune with the Civil Rights movement.
Pete and Peggy's baby was given up for adoption. The baby they showed sometime in the beginning of Season 2 was Peggy's sister's kid.
I don't have an example or exact quote, but I know Campbell has said things before about segregation and equal rights that makes me tend to agree with FlapJacks.
Terrific.I don't have an example or exact quote, but I know Campbell has said things before about segregation and equal rights that makes me tend to agree with FlapJacks.
from wikipedia:I don't have an example or exact quote, but I know Campbell has said things before about segregation and equal rights that makes me tend to agree with FlapJacks.
OK, I went back and looked at the original statement that caught my eye. It was said that Pete is "in tune" with the Civil Rights movement. Now if we take that to mean that Pete knows what is going on in the movement I can agree to that.from wikipedia:I don't have an example or exact quote, but I know Campbell has said things before about segregation and equal rights that makes me tend to agree with FlapJacks.
It is hinted at several times in the show that Pete is supportive of civil rights. In "The Chrysanthemum and the Sword", when Bert asks why Black Americans are still pushing for rights, Pete quips "Because Lassie can stay at the Waldorf and they (the blacks) can't." In "My Old Kentycky Home", he is the only besides Don and Ms. Smith who are uncomfortable with Roger's blackface. In "The Fog", he doesn't understand the problem with "the negro market", ad informs Hollis, the black elevator operator, that he is not a bigot.
I think Pete considers himself to be an enlightened liberal, but he isn't really. Pete isn't comfortable in his own skin, period. Everything he says and does is him trying too hard to be something he may or may not actually be.Officer Pete Malloy said:OK, I went back and looked at the original statement that caught my eye. It was said that Pete is "in tune" with the Civil Rights movement. Now if we take that to mean that Pete knows what is going on in the movement I can agree to that.FlapJacks said:from wikipedia:PlasmaDogPlasma said:I don't have an example or exact quote, but I know Campbell has said things before about segregation and equal rights that makes me tend to agree with FlapJacks.
It is hinted at several times in the show that Pete is supportive of civil rights. In "The Chrysanthemum and the Sword", when Bert asks why Black Americans are still pushing for rights, Pete quips "Because Lassie can stay at the Waldorf and they (the blacks) can't." In "My Old Kentycky Home", he is the only besides Don and Ms. Smith who are uncomfortable with Roger's blackface. In "The Fog", he doesn't understand the problem with "the negro market", ad informs Hollis, the black elevator operator, that he is not a bigot.
But I still will not concede that Pete is the office liberal or that his tirade against Harry was motivated by a genuine sense of racial equality.
As far as what you cited above:
Pete knowing why blacks are pushing for change does not mean he agrees. I'm sure there were others that were uncomforable with Roger's blackface routine...but were smart enough not to show their real emotions since Roger is their boss/friend. And Pete telling Hollis "I'm not a bigot" shows that he's not a bigot? Wow.
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