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"The Bachelor" on ABC (4 Viewers)

Which is more likely to happen first with the TV show The Bachelor?

  • Show gets canceled

    Votes: 69 63.9%

  • producers cast a black man as The Bachelor

    Votes: 39 36.1%
  • Total voters
    108
Peter: so dull/lame....basically felt it was his mission to just use every Bach cliche....zero personality....oh wait....sorry I forgot. HE’S A PILOT....my bad.....this guy makes that foreign soccer player (was it Pablo?).....look like Kevin Hart....‘tis ok”

Kelly: Peter is looking at those hips and weight gain over the course of this journey and there was no way he was going home to meet mom and see what was in his future......not trying to be mean, but she really has just been having fun and obviously enjoying the benefits of free food and booze in great locations...how much extra do they have to pay you to start playing the “I am better than everyone else” card when they and you both know you are leaving soon....her best days in the rear view...you can’t handle the truth!!

Madison: cute small town hottie.....good athlete .....but the lord and family have a hold that won’t let go enough for her to run with the big dogs....she will make a great wife/mother for some religious guy that has a good job and hates sex....will never be freaky enough for the 4 times in a lighthouse guy...already a hint that Peter beds at least one of these before the finals and she threw out the “if he slept with one of these other girls, I’m out card”....at least they lead us to think its her that said that....

Hannah Ann:  yeah she’s young but I think she has enough daddy issues for Peter to mold her 50 shades of grey style....she has potential for final two and to win it all

Victoria: one of those people that rarely looks you in the eye and will always look away when talking.....drama 24/7....but as mentioned above....Peter is going full honey badger here and he don’t give a ####....he takes what he wants....and no way she wasn’t making it to a fantasy suite or at least somewhere where he gets to see that bod....she tried to get him to send her home and he still didn't......once he realized he was competing for someone that was hot enough to date a popular country singer, he knew he had no shot long term (because Peter is the captain of the boring team)....and so his whole focus was on that body.....and you can’t really blame him.....once this chick knew she was hot enough to be the pick out of numerous groupie hotties by a rich country singer....she basically entered a rent district that very few can afford...

Kelsey: think I overreacted to her bat ### crazy at the beginning and the whole champagne thing, but I think this lady has the perfect concoction for Peter.... good soccer mom in public but lady in the street freak in the bed smoke show, great body, crazy, daddy issues, not smarter than him...she makes the final two with Hannah and I think she wins....if there really is such a thing as a winner

 
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Victoria looked like a pretty good catch during her first date at Cedar Point..... until it became clear that she will treat every minor hurdle as though it is the end of the world.  I'll predict that Peter does her 5 times in the fantasy suite, then sends her packing.  Continuing his trend of being completely clueless, he hopes that Madison was just kidding about that whole virginity thing.  As he is getting ready to propose to Madison, she decides not to show up.  Season ends without a proposal.

Since neither Peter nor the old Hannah have any actual redeeming qualities, they crawl back together as each others' 3rd or 4th best options.  End scene.

 
I haven't been watching but my wife tells me this is the first year in a while where that spoiler guy does not know who he ends up with or what happens after.  Still doesn't make me want to start watching again.  

 
Scoresman said:
I haven't been watching but my wife tells me this is the first year in a while where that spoiler guy does not know who he ends up with or what happens after.  Still doesn't make me want to start watching again.  
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now wouldn't be a bad time to join the party.....as the final 4 is pretty uhhhhhhhhh.......strong.....( I have to give him that)....and we are approaching some one on one opportunities if you know what I mean....just sayin.....

 
Stinkin Ref said:
now wouldn't be a bad time to join the party.....as the final 4 is pretty uhhhhhhhhh.......strong.....( I have to give him that)....and we are approaching some one on one opportunities if you know what I mean....just sayin.....
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I can't do it.  The show is so scripted and its the same thing every gosh darn year.  If I want to see hot chicks there's always pornhub or chaturbate.  

I've been using my free Monday evenings to rewatch Breaking Bad and The Sopranos while my wife watches this in the bedroom.  

 
Scoresman said:
I can't do it.  The show is so scripted and its the same thing every gosh darn year.  If I want to see hot chicks there's always pornhub or chaturbate.  

I've been using my free Monday evenings to rewatch Breaking Bad and The Sopranos while my wife watches this in the bedroom.  
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fair enough....was just thinking if you did join the party to spend some time with mama.....now isn't a bad time...

 
offdee said:
And no doubt AMAZING in bed! 
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He wants to bang her so bad. But she is a freaking hot mess waiting to happen.

Madison is gorgeous, sweet and genuine. If he does not pursue a real relationship with he is a bumbling idiot. I understand she loves Jesus and all that. But you can see how that can work out. It is not awful. She would be an amazing mother to his children, and she is simply so genuine. 

Hannah Ann is also a sweet heart. But man she is a baby. It is between those two. The other two are total nutbars. But he will bang both of them well before he let’s them go. 

Lucky guy.

 
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So a very predictable rose ceremony last night. 

Madison and Hanna are the two front runners. No question. Both are beautiful and sweet. Both are very genuine. I don't think he could go wrong with either. But I still say, if you want a strong, gorgeous and incredible future mother for your children. You take a leap of faith with Madison. She is a great woman. 

Victoria is the one he is lusting for so badly. He wanted that overnight with her. Now it is coming. 

In all fairness to Victoria he handled that #### show BS with an old scorned ex giving her dirt on Victoria....very badly. You go and meet her family. Then address it before your rose ceremony. He handled it exactly like the producers of the show instructed him too. This is why the show is a love hat relationship. It is a fun show....no doubt. Gorgeous women every Monday night? What is not to like. But the contrived drama get's to be a bit much.

But despite the BS drama he still gave her a rose. Why? He wants to bed her and now Madison will lay it out for him that if he sleeps with anyone during the overnights......it will be over.

So if he really really wants a potential future with Madison.....he will not sleep with Hanna or Victoria. And here is the thing. I do not think Hanna would sleep with him anyway right now. But Victoria would not doubt sink her hooks into him in bed.

So what will he do? 

I hope he does not screw up his potential life with a girl like Madison. She is a catch big time. In fact.....she is probably too good for him, because I am getting a sneaking suspicion he is simply a player. Because Victoria should have been gone a while ago. It is a constant struggle with them. Yet she is still here.

 
Peter's pursuit of an overnight with Victoria is like Andy Dufresne crawling through the sewer pipe on his way out of Shawshank.

It's gonna be AWESOME once he spills out the other side, but he's really trudging through a 500 yard river of #### to get there.

The late game Madison super religious reveal is a real kick in the balls. She seems like an incredible girl but as others have said, it's a big leap for a guy who I'm sure hasn't been to church in a decade.  My guess is that Pete's flight schedule would suddenly include a lot of Saturday-sunday red-eyes if they ended up together.

 
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And yeah, if he just wants a stay at home wife that will do whatever he says, hannahannah is the obvious choice.

She's never been pursued by anyone other than drunken SEC fratboys, so even Peter looks like prince charming by comparison. 

 
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So awesome.  Based on what they've teased for the finale, you gotta think Victoria is involved somehow.  But I think she's just been "kept" for the drama angle.  I think he's already made up his mind and they're just "doing the show".  Madison has to be his choice, if the guy really wants to get married like he suggests.  Hannah Ann has the personality of a seagull.

He'll let Hannah Ann go and will get to "choose" between Madison and Victoria.  

But will he get to smash Victoria at all or will he opt to succumb to Madison's ultimatum?

 
I mean, if you don't get to sleep with Victoria, what was it all for? The stupid theme dates, the lame dancing in front of crowds, having to listen to 20 women cry over nonsense, people bashing you on social media, etc.

As the bachelor, you put up with all that crap because you get to have sex with the 3 hottest chicks there. Real gut punch if you don't.

 
booting Kelsey before fantasy suites was a huge mistake.....she was automatic and would have been a ton of fun me thinks.....had something to prove and some "work" to do cause Peter withheld the I love you....and I still think she is "technically" the best fit for him....not the best wife necessarily for the every day man, but for him....yes.....she actually seemed to be showing some signs of maturity as things went on....but also enough crazy to keep him entertained so to speak....

Madison....said before and not trying to be mean in anyway....great catch for a man of serious faith who hates to drink or have sex.....she doesn't drink at all (not that you need to or its a deal breaker)....but if you noticed, she doesn't drink the champagne when they do group toasts etc....family doesn't drink.....etc....no pre marital sex....and probably not a ton of just for the fun of it in the future....she is a much better athlete than him, and also smarter.....they would not last, even though she is a solid catch for somebody...her ultimatum will lead to her leaving

Victoria.....sorry but she thinks very highly of herself even with all the crying.....when a woman's "go to" way of dealing with things starts with "I'm done" and the "oh really's" and "thats what you thinks"....you should run away quickly (after the fantasy suite).....although I would bet dimes to donuts, everyone thinks she is is fantasy suite gold, but I don't think she would seal the deal once go time approached....sabotage...she doesn't want to be the country music groupie and the bachelor groupie...

Hannah.....to me checks all the boxes for him including not being smarter than him...

 
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TLEF316 said:
I mean, if you don't get to sleep with Victoria, what was it all for? The stupid theme dates, the lame dancing in front of crowds, having to listen to 20 women cry over nonsense, people bashing you on social media, etc.

As the bachelor, you put up with all that crap because you get to have sex with the 3 hottest chicks there. Real gut punch if you don't.
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If he get's to bang Victoria and still get's Madison...WINNING!!!!

 
I don't watch Bachelor, only Paradise, but why would Madison not be ok with him having sex with the other 2? She knows he's had sex before, right? 

 
Stinkin Ref said:
booting Kelsey before fantasy suites was a huge mistake.....she was automatic and would have been a ton of fun me thinks.....had something to prove and some "work" to do cause Peter withheld the I love you....and I still think she is "technically" the best fit for him....not the best wife necessarily for the every day man, but for him....yes.....she actually seemed to be showing some signs of maturity as things went on....but also enough crazy to keep him entertained so to speak....

Madison....said before and not trying to be mean in anyway....great catch for a man of serious faith who hates to drink or have sex.....she doesn't drink at all (not that you need to or its a deal breaker)....but if you noticed, she doesn't drink the champagne when they do group toasts etc....family doesn't drink.....etc....no pre marital sex....and probably not a ton of just for the fun of it in the future....she is a much better athlete than him, and also smarter.....they would not last, even though she is a solid catch for somebody...her ultimatum will lead to her leaving

Victoria.....sorry but she thinks very highly of herself even with all the crying.....when a woman's "go to" way of dealing with things starts with "I'm done" and the "oh really's" and "thats what you thinks"....you should run away quickly (after the fantasy suite).....although I would bet dimes to donuts, everyone thinks she is is fantasy suite gold, but I don't think she would seal the deal once go time approached....sabotage...

Hannah.....to me checks all the boxes for him including not being smarter than him...
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You make some excellent points. Although I think Madison will be amazing in bed because he will get to teach her as they go along and train her to a tee to satisfy him exactly the way he wants to be. You gotta love that. And she is gorgeous. But the extreme religious thing is a tough one. I agree.

Hannah is the safe choice. No question. She is beautiful but her dad looks like a real ####### ball buster.

I think Madison is just a real woman. Her heart is real and out of all those women hands down, I would want her to be the mother of my children. Awesome DNA, amazing family, amazing values.

A homerun. A real marriage is compromise and I gotta believe Madison will lighten up a little as they get to know each other really well. Again the art of compromise defines your marriage. I think he can easily get away with just Church on Sunday and be home in time for kickoff in the fall. For her.....I would do it.

 
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bcdjr1 said:
I don't watch Bachelor, only Paradise, but why would Madison not be ok with him having sex with the other 2? She knows he's had sex before, right? 
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when its this close to the end and if she is the one.....he shouldn't need to......want to maybe, but need to ....no....thats how she thinks...

 
bcdjr1 said:
I don't watch Bachelor, only Paradise, but why would Madison not be ok with him having sex with the other 2? She knows he's had sex before, right? 
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Exactly. It is TV drama. I think it will all work out. And if it doesn't.....oh well.

 
bcdjr1 said:
I don't watch Bachelor, only Paradise, but why would Madison not be ok with him having sex with the other 2? She knows he's had sex before, right? 
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and if this was "real life"......the thought of the person you are getting engaged to banging 2 other people literally within hours of the proposal would probably be a little tough to handle for anybody....let alone those with the "save it for marriage" mindset....

 
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I believe he will have sex with Victoria, and as a result, he will not end up with Madison. I don't think he ends up with anyone.

 
Stinkin Ref said:
when its this close to the end and if she is the one.....he shouldn't need to......want to maybe, but need to ....no....thats how she thinks...
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And I agree it is OK to think this way. 

He is thinking I am finally going to have a ****fest with Victoria after going through all this BS but I am picking Madison. She on the other hand is going to deal him a kick in the balls.....if he really wants Madison.....he will abstain from sleeping with the other two.

 
Stinkin Ref said:
and if this was "real life"......the thought of the person you are getting engaged to banging 2 other people literally within hours of the proposal would probably be a little tough to handle for anybody....let alone those with the "save it for marriage" mindset....
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Right? LMAO this show......what fun.

 
Stinkin Ref said:
I agree with this....but I think it will be Hannah instead of Victoria....
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 I think he could have sex with Hannah also. But why would you have kept Victoria around if it wasn't to mess around with her in the fantasy suite? Do you think he actually likes Victoria?

 
Reading all these posts today is why I have read the spoilers before the season starts the last three years. A few of you are so way off.   :lmao:

 
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Stinkin Ref said:
and if this was "real life"......the thought of the person you are getting engaged to banging 2 other people literally within hours of the proposal would probably be a little tough to handle for anybody....let alone those with the "save it for marriage" mindset....
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But if this was "real life", I would think you'd have a problem with the person you're getting engaged to seriously considering getting engaged to one of 2 other women instead of you, too. You have to figure if she's fine with him being in a "serious relationship" with 3 people at the same time, having sex with the others wouldn't be a problem. 

 
dhockster said:
I believe he will have sex with Victoria, and as a result, he will not end up with Madison. I don't think he ends up with anyone.
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It if funny. My wife and daughters love this show.  At the start they loved Peter, as they show had progressed his stock has dropped dramatically with them.  They now think he is a DB.   In reality they only get maybe 3 alone dates with the finalists. And Victoria has snapped on him twice already and this is on camera.   What a :tfp:

Seems like every season they are trying to add in more and more drama.  Wonder how they found the whistle blower last night to rat out Victoria?

 
Da Guru said:
It if funny. My wife and daughters love this show.  At the start they loved Peter, as they show had progressed his stock has dropped dramatically with them.  They now think he is a DB.   In reality they only get maybe 3 alone dates with the finalists. And Victoria has snapped on him twice already and this is on camera.   What a :tfp:

Seems like every season they are trying to add in more and more drama.  Wonder how they found the whistle blower last night to rat out Victoria?
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I think that they know about the potential whistle blowers when they cast the show. It helps them select the contestants. I mean Victoria was friends with one of Peter's exes? They had to know about that at the start of the season. They also obviously knew that Victoria had gone out with country singer which is why they had him play on her date. 

 
bcdjr1 said:
But if this was "real life", I would think you'd have a problem with the person you're getting engaged to seriously considering getting engaged to one of 2 other women instead of you, too. You have to figure if she's fine with him being in a "serious relationship" with 3 people at the same time, having sex with the others wouldn't be a problem. 
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sure.....and it may just be me....but I think there is a little bit of a difference between going on some dates, having some conversations, flirting, kissing, getting to know someone on a personal level....and.....sticking your _______ in their ______ 24 hours before someone else is on their knees (to propose that is).....

 
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Da Guru said:
It if funny. My wife and daughters love this show.  At the start they loved Peter, as they show had progressed his stock has dropped dramatically with them.  They now think he is a DB.   In reality they only get maybe 3 alone dates with the finalists. And Victoria has snapped on him twice already and this is on camera.   What a :tfp:

Seems like every season they are trying to add in more and more drama.  Wonder how they found the whistle blower last night to rat out Victoria?
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Apparently she’s been trying to get word to him since she found out Victoria is on the show. She’s the one who reached out to producers, and they sent her an invite to this event but never spoke with her or mic’d her up. She sought out Peter on her own to warn him.

 
Shrugs said:
Apparently she’s been trying to get word to him since she found out Victoria is on the show. She’s the one who reached out to producers, and they sent her an invite to this event but never spoke with her or mic’d her up. She sought out Peter on her own to warn him.
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She moved from LA to Virginia Beach three years ago and runs in the same social circles as Victoria.  She claims Victoria has slept with several married men.

 
Getzlaf15 said:
Actually, Reality Steve talked to those women and it's all confirmed that she did.
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 Not surprising at all. She’s a baaaaad girl in bed and out of it. Hence why he wants the fantasy suite with her.

Can’t blame him. She is ####### hot. But he will lose Madison for sure if he sleeps with her or Hanna or both lol.

Hanna is plan B

 
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Todem said:
So a very predictable rose ceremony last night. 

Madison and Hanna are the two front runners. No question. Both are beautiful and sweet. Both are very genuine. I don't think he could go wrong with either. But I still say, if you want a strong, gorgeous and incredible future mother for your children. You take a leap of faith with Madison. She is a great woman. 

Victoria is the one he is lusting for so badly. He wanted that overnight with her. Now it is coming. 

In all fairness to Victoria he handled that #### show BS with an old scorned ex giving her dirt on Victoria....very badly. You go and meet her family. Then address it before your rose ceremony. He handled it exactly like the producers of the show instructed him too. This is why the show is a love hat relationship. It is a fun show....no doubt. Gorgeous women every Monday night? What is not to like. But the contrived drama get's to be a bit much.

But despite the BS drama he still gave her a rose. Why? He wants to bed her and now Madison will lay it out for him that if he sleeps with anyone during the overnights......it will be over.

So if he really really wants a potential future with Madison.....he will not sleep with Hanna or Victoria. And here is the thing. I do not think Hanna would sleep with him anyway right now. But Victoria would not doubt sink her hooks into him in bed.

So what will he do? 

I hope he does not screw up his potential life with a girl like Madison. She is a catch big time. In fact.....she is probably too good for him, because I am getting a sneaking suspicion he is simply a player. Because Victoria should have been gone a while ago. It is a constant struggle with them. Yet she is still here.
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Sneaking suspicion?  I mentioned upthread it was painfully obvious to me when he was on the Bachelorette. The dude is a total player. 

 
bigbottom said:
Sneaking suspicion?  I mentioned upthread it was painfully obvious to me when he was on the Bachelorette. The dude is a total player. 
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I never saw him on the Bachelorette. This is the first season of The Bachelor I have watched since season 1.  And I only watched season one of the Bachelorette. 
 

The couple from season 1 on the Bachelorette are still the only one in the shows history to tryly make it correct? And a fine couple they are. Totally real true love. Was pretty cool to see.

 
dhockster said:
I think that they know about the potential whistle blowers when they cast the show. It helps them select the contestants. I mean Victoria was friends with one of Peter's exes? They had to know about that at the start of the season. They also obviously knew that Victoria had gone out with country singer which is why they had him play on her date. 
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Exactly. I have a close friend that has been DP for some of these reality shows. Its all planned out.

 
Todem said:
I never saw him on the Bachelorette. This is the first season of The Bachelor I have watched since season 1.  And I only watched season one of the Bachelorette. 
 

The couple from season 1 on the Bachelorette are still the only one in the shows history to tryly make it correct? And a fine couple they are. Totally real true love. Was pretty cool to see.
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There are others that are married and have kids, including from Bachelor in Paradise.

 
identikit said:
Pete loves the brunettes
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Yeah, noticed that.  

Shaping up to be a great finale, honestly.  Can't believe I'm hyped for it, let alone even watch the show to begin with.  :lol:  

 
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