Yes, he sucks. But he's generally acknowledged to have the strongest arm in the league and typically unleashes a few bombs per game. Not sure why that never happened last night.
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QB Joe Flacco, IND (3 Viewers)
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zoonation
Footballguy
Not the strongest arm in the league. Not even close.
People said that like 5 years ago
Bossman
Footballguy
He got his ring, got paid, and now he's fat and happy.
... and BAL is stuck with him because of that stupid contract.
Meanwhile, a team like WAS refuses to give into the demands of an avg QB like Cousins and put themselves in a situation like BAL has.
jtp1982
Footballguy
As a Ravens fan last night was horse**** and I blame Flacco primarily.
That said I believe home field advantage in divisional games is a bigger factor in the AFC north than most of the rest of the league. I’m not convinced he can’t turn things around and with him, the team.
He needs to do it quick for his sake and Harbaugh’s though. I can tell you as a Baltimore native this team either plays multiple playoff games this year or they will loose the fans for good and the team will be forced to make a change.
I like Flacco, he’s a good guy, has basically become a local and I’d like to see him go out on top. Performances like Thursday night aren’t going to get him into next season though. Ravens fans are done.
That said I believe home field advantage in divisional games is a bigger factor in the AFC north than most of the rest of the league. I’m not convinced he can’t turn things around and with him, the team.
He needs to do it quick for his sake and Harbaugh’s though. I can tell you as a Baltimore native this team either plays multiple playoff games this year or they will loose the fans for good and the team will be forced to make a change.
I like Flacco, he’s a good guy, has basically become a local and I’d like to see him go out on top. Performances like Thursday night aren’t going to get him into next season though. Ravens fans are done.
jtp1982
Footballguy
Yup. This is Flacco’s year. Next year we’ll see but he’s not going anywhere for a while.
In an ironic twist, Flacco will traded to the Denver Broncos, per Schefter. The irony being the fact that @DenverBroncos started this thread.
Time is a flat circle.
Time is a flat circle.
bicycle_seat_sniffer
Smells like chicken
Ilov80s
Footballguy
I think it is a wash. They just have different skills. Flacco has the big arm, Keenum is accurate on short throws. Maybe they will use them in a rotation, like a tag-team.
No, but it's not bad either. I think they still take a QB in the first.
They took one Super Bowl MVP over another. Many thought the Broncos would pursue Foles. Be interesting to see how it works out.
MAC_32
Footballguy
bicycle_seat_sniffer
Smells like chicken
That kid fro. Buffalo....mac school....he is like 6 foot 7....but hes a project n a stiff
Bronco Billy
Footballguy
Ilov80s
Footballguy
Denver has been linked a lot to Drew Lock. He's big (6'4") and has a cannon arm. He definitely has the look of an Elway guy.
Ilov80s
Footballguy
We have seen what Flacco can for receivers. It is wheels up for that Broncos offense.
No it's not
Bronco Billy
Footballguy
The offense will give away games with turnovers. But at least the WRs will put up some yds. Flacco got a wrong side of 30 Mike Wallace over 1k and Kamar freaking Aiken almost to 1k.
Go ahead and guess what the highest FF finish for any WR playing with Flacco has been.
Andy Dufresne
Footballguy
I'm no Flacco can but can you provide a list of his pass catchers? I don't think it's been a murderers row.
Ilov80s
Footballguy
Wallace was 30 when he had 1000 yards which is good but Wallace was a WR with a good track record. Keenum had Sanders on pace for 1150 yards at age 31 last year. I just think we are talking about 2 QBs who have different skills but with the same poor results.
Bronco Billy
Footballguy
I’m really not interested in hating on Flacco.
I’m a Sutton owner. I’ll take anything that breathes that has a chance of outperforming Keenum and will risk throwing the ball down the field. Flacco fits the bill.
His specialty is dumping off to a shifty RB. This is awesome for Lindsay and terrible for every WR, regardless of their level of talent. And he has generally had older WRs and TEs who are still viable. I'm thinking of Steve Smiff, Derrick Mason, Todd Heap, Anquon Boldin and Dennis Pitta. Several of those guys are at least as talented as the kids in Denver.
Ilov80s
Footballguy
True but there is a chicken and egg situation. How much of them being bad fell on Flacco, fell on the receivers, fell on the OC. However, we know Flacco is 34, has never made a Pro Bowl, is 22nd in active Y/A, 22nd in active passer rating, 18th in active completion %, 24th in active pass TD % and 10th highest active interception %. Removing years he was hurt or benched, his average finish for fantasy is QB17.
In other words, he has always been a below average QB and he is old so it's likely only getting worse.
Andy Dufresne
Footballguy
This very phrase entered my head.
This move is reminiscent of the Vikings last year - he's probably the best option but you really wish there were better ones.
Bronco Billy
Footballguy
Andy Dufresne
Footballguy
They can agree "in principle" before that. It's a handshake deal that can be made official in March.
Bronco Billy
Footballguy
Agreed.
It’s either Keenum as the bridge QB or Flacco. This isn’t a franchise QB signing.
Wingnut
Footballguy
Saw this tweet from Schefter right after my post.
"Breaking: Baltimore has agreement in principle to trade former Super Bowl MVP Joe Flacco to the Broncos, league sources told ESPN.
Trade cannot be processed until new NFL league year begins Wednesday, March 13. Teams prohibited from commenting on deal or terms surrounding it."
So teams can agree but can't comment or disclose terms. Makes sense.
Ilov80s
Footballguy
Keenum is 19th in Y/A, 20th in passer rating, 17th in pass completion %, 28th in TD%, 9th in INT %. So they really are about the same in those categories.
tex
Footballguy
I can see the Broncos cutting Keenum, drafting Drew Lock, and letting him sit and learn for a year or 2 under Flacco. Lock can learn a lot more from Flacco than Keenum IMO. Flacco has a big arm and throws one of the best deep balls in the league. I think it's an upgrade for Sutton and Hamilton.
Faust
MVP
Flacco sucks. Huge downgrade for Sutton and Hamilton, Sanders is done. Possible bump for Lindsay due to dump-offs. If you wanted a bridge QB, just pay Keenum his full salary for the year, you've got to pay him $7M guaranteed either way. If they do still draft a QB in the first, he'll be starting by mid-season.
bicycle_seat_sniffer
Smells like chicken
Ill remind everyone freakin about flacco hurting sutton...
With Flacco dealt, and Foles/Bridgewater on the move, important to keep in mind what happened last year ...
* The Browns dealt for Taylor, then took Mayfield.
* The Jets signed McCown and Bridgewater, then took Darnold.
*The Cardinals signed Bradford, then took Rosen.
With Flacco dealt, and Foles/Bridgewater on the move, important to keep in mind what happened last year ...
* The Browns dealt for Taylor, then took Mayfield.
* The Jets signed McCown and Bridgewater, then took Darnold.
*The Cardinals signed Bradford, then took Rosen.
