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some people (apparently) can't even hear the difference.lol at worse.
Do you have a link to a source that explains the proper sound we should be making when we say "dawn"?
This is normal, though. Without training, few Americans can distinguish the paired voiceless consonants (aspirate vs non-aspirate) of Thai, for example.It's to hearing what being color blind is to sight. They apparently honestly cannot hear the difference.
I may be way wrong here, but from what I have heard in my lifetime, people from the east coast, mostly northeast, definitely pronounce them differently. The midwest pronounce them exactly the same and think that I am crazy to think there is a difference.We need a poll by region.
If you expect to be able to phonetically spell every English word, I doubt they'll be filming Videoguy and the Bee any time soon.
Absolutely untrue. Dialectical differences aren't "wrong".
... it's not a matter of training to speak "better" or "worse". It's training someone in a dialectical difference -- for example, all the non-American actors in True Blood.The exercise I posted was not meant to convert anyone -- it was meant to help make clear what, physiologically, the difference in the "Dawn/Don" vowels are in the dialects that distinguish the two.
You can train yourself to say the word dawn properly with this exercise. First, start by saying the word don. Try different versions. Don Johnson. Don Vito Corleone. Don Mattingly. Don of the dead. Wait, that's supposed to be dawn of the dead. But it's ok, because they're pronounced exactly the same.
I figured you didn't, but I was giving you the benefit of the doubt. You've disappointed me, BostonFred.
Again, I think people are misunderstanding the issue. When I hear someone say lawn incorrectly (so it sounds more like Lindsay Lohan and less like Lon) I hear the difference. I just know that their accent is making the word sound incorrect. It's no different from hearing a Canadian say 'eh' at the end of a sentence or hearing a southern drawl elongate a word.
Wait, are you trying to say that these two words don't sound exactly the same?!?!???
Exactly.
Lawn = Lohan? that's awful. who talks like this?you keep making these ridiculous analogies. they aren't helping your point.
WHAT?
Fascinating. I get that people pronounce words differently based on region, but I'm amazed that even if you say the words differently, some will hear them the same. I wonder which words I hear the same when they're actually pronounced differently.This is normal, though. Without training, few Americans can distinguish the paired voiceless consonants (aspirate vs non-aspirate) of Thai, for example.It's to hearing what being color blind is to sight. They apparently honestly cannot hear the difference.
What if this causes us to pronounce all the words incorrectly? At least using the two different sounds assures we get it right half the time.
I am not sure why but hearing this pronunciation has always been like fingernails on a chalk board for me.How the hell does one add an "r" to idea? Seriously where the heck did that come from?
Of course.
Of course
No, they are 'near-rhymes' or 'false rhymes' which are still often used in songs but don't actually rhyme.
No, there is a correct way. You pronounce them differently so you can tell the difference. Thus my sister Dawn should never be confused with my brother Don.
Of course not.
no.don rhymes with londawn rhymes with lawn
how can one person be so wrong?
Hence 4 pages
Are we just going to repeat the same questions over and over?
lol does lon rhyme with lawn????/crazypeople
Now you're just being ridiculous here. Gone rhymes with dawn and gown rhymes with down.
Of course not.
He really thought he was going to get you with that one.
And none of them rhyme with "don".
No it doesn't.
I'm sorry, I meant to say 5 (five) pages.
Does for me, and for most American speakers. Not incorrect or correct -- just another dialectical variation. But a very common one.
Read what I linked. This is not a matter of correct/incorrect.
It took 4 (four) pages to get this right?
