Dr. Dan said:
I dont understand what is so hard about the concept that hes over valued because of dynasty fantasy players.
He said he was overvalued because of dynasty rookie drafts, not players. So yes it is hard for me to understand how something that has not happened for the most part, actual dynasty rookie drafts, is causing a player to be overrated.
But let's move one from that and focus on being overrated by dynasty football players.
Your Hakeem Butler example not only does not work but it's actually like the 100% total polar opposite and that's what I was trying to explain last night. As you pointed out Hakeem Butler was loved by the fantasy community but not so much by NFL community.
I believe CEH is the opposite of that right now and I've expanded on this before in one of these threads. He is loved way more by the actual NFL community then the fantasy community which is again the total opposite of Butler.
Now, here is the tricky part. I can't prove how high the NFL community is on him before the NFL draft anymore then someone can prove dynasty players are more down on him then they should be based on how he'll actually perform. But I can offer bits of information that are indicative, I can't make anyone believe this info or the credibility of those that provide it nor would I try to. I can just say I buy the credibility of these individuals, don't always agree with them but for various reasons these are people who have a pulse on what NFL front offices are thinking and their rankings are not based on or influenced by dynasty in any way.
Daniel Jeremiah, ex-NFL scout. First guy last year to start pumping up Jacobs as a first round guy when some in fantasy were snickering. DJ does not run a dynasty team or play fantasy football. CEH is his #2 ranked RB.
Bucky Brooks, ex-NFL scout, he has CEH as his #2 ranked RB. Bucky does not play fantasy football.
Bryan Broadhaus, ex-NFL scout and ex-GM of the Eagles. I don't know his rankings or if he will put them out this year. I don't know were he has CEH ranked. I only know that he said he liked CEH more then Taylor and believes most scouts will as well.
Ex-scouts are not all in lockstep and neither are dynasty players. Tony Pauline has CEH as his #4 RB and is way lower on him then the other 3.
I only reference those individuals as they have some degree of credibility as ex-NFL scouts, and I know at least 3 of them don't play fantasy football. I don't follow Pauline or know if he does but I don't think so.
CEH might be a bust, I'm not here to argue with anyone who says he stinks, but this is absolutely not a case of him being built up by the fantasy community.If we were really searching for a RB that is valued higher in fantasy then the people I just referenced it would be Taylor. Not one of them has him as their #1 RB and only one of them has him as their #2.