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Good info. Thanks guys. I was genuinely curious as to their draw.

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Sweet Baby Jebus I'm back in the U.S. baby! I actually got some juice in Sweden a couple of weeks ago so I've been vaping with good stuff for a couple of weeks now. I got a flavor called "Snake Oil" it's the only flavor this maker produces. It's got some black licorice, a touch of menthol and some other stuff. I really like it. Of course I would have liked anything after using Blu for 3 months.

But I'm back in the states! My year-long supply was waiting for me from Vapor Beast when I got here. I just hope they don't get confiscated at customs on Saturday when I'm back in Argentina. So......happy.

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Sweet Baby Jebus I'm back in the U.S. baby! I actually got some juice in Sweden a couple of weeks ago so I've been vaping with good stuff for a couple of weeks now. I got a flavor called "Snake Oil" it's the only flavor this maker produces. It's got some black licorice, a touch of menthol and some other stuff. I really like it. Of course I would have liked anything after using Blu for 3 months.

But I'm back in the states! My year-long supply was waiting for me from Vapor Beast when I got here. I just hope they don't get confiscated at customs on Saturday when I'm back in Argentina. So......happy.

Welcome home! If the S hits the F when you get back below the equator, shoot me a PM. I'd be more than happy send you some stuff under an innocuous commercial invoice.

My favorite juice maker just stopped shipping internationally using the Flavorings HTS code. I tend to think this world has a whole host of bigger problems than vaping, but what do I know?

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Sweet Baby Jebus I'm back in the U.S. baby! I actually got some juice in Sweden a couple of weeks ago so I've been vaping with good stuff for a couple of weeks now. I got a flavor called "Snake Oil" it's the only flavor this maker produces. It's got some black licorice, a touch of menthol and some other stuff. I really like it. Of course I would have liked anything after using Blu for 3 months.

But I'm back in the states! My year-long supply was waiting for me from Vapor Beast when I got here. I just hope they don't get confiscated at customs on Saturday when I'm back in Argentina. So......happy.

Welcome home! If the S hits the F when you get back below the equator, shoot me a PM. I'd be more than happy send you some stuff under an innocuous commercial invoice.

My favorite juice maker just stopped shipping internationally using the Flavorings HTS code. I tend to think this world has a whole host of bigger problems than vaping, but what do I know?

Thanks a lot. No problem going through customs though. I'm all set for a long while. In fact I just found out they are lifting the ban here in 3 years. Why 3 years? I don't know. Doesn't matter to me because I should be back in the states by then. For some reason they keep harping on the "it doesn't help people quit smoking" platform. While that statement in itself is ludicrous why does that matter? Anyway, I don't care. Right now I'm happily vaping my sweet tart flavor after months of vaping dried dog crap vapor from Blu.

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Just got the Kanger Tech EMOW.

Love it

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Just got the Kanger Tech EMOW.

Love it

Awesome! Whatever keeps you from smoking.

I'm hoping for a few vape treats in my stocking.

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Currently rocking the Aspire Mini Nautilus with CF VV+ 1000 mAh battery. Juice is Castle Long from Five Pawns, maker of high end artisinal juices. Good stuff.

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Bump because of the personal vaporizer discussion in the smoking thread.

The new formaldehyde study pointed to vaping at 5 volts as an issue.

Does anyone know the resistance used in the study? I suspect that this was major sub ohming, but want to make sure.

I normally run 5 volts at 1.5 ohm for 16.66 watts.

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Bump because of the personal vaporizer discussion in the smoking thread.

The new formaldehyde study pointed to vaping at 5 volts as an issue.

Does anyone know the resistance used in the study? I suspect that this was major sub ohming, but want to make sure.

I normally run 5 volts at 1.5 ohm for 16.66 watts.

Do you hold down the button for 4 seconds? Cause they did that too.

I'll see if I can dig up more.

ETA: Also, it wasn't producing more formaldhyde than cigarettes. Much less actually. But the study included "formaldahyde related agents" which *may* have the same impact, but its an unknown.

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Bump because of the personal vaporizer discussion in the smoking thread.

The new formaldehyde study pointed to vaping at 5 volts as an issue.

Does anyone know the resistance used in the study? I suspect that this was major sub ohming, but want to make sure.

I normally run 5 volts at 1.5 ohm for 16.66 watts.

As long as you aren't taking a lot of long dry hits you should be fine.

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A more even handed report on the study. Still unable to dig up a full disclosure of their methods including the Ohms.

(Reuters) - People who smoke high-voltage e-cigarettes have greater exposure to formaldehyde, a suspected carcinogen, than those who keep the voltage low, according to a study published in the New England Journal of Medicine on Wednesday.

The study, which critics say is misleading and lacks context, is the latest contribution to a debate on the safety of e-cigarettes that has so far has yielded little long-term data, though most experts believe they are less toxic than combustible cigarettes.

Researchers from Portland State University took flavored nicotine liquid made by Halo Cigs, a private company, and tested it in a personal vaporizer from Innokin. The vaporizer allows consumers to adjust the voltage from 3.3V to 5.0V. The higher the voltage the greater the nicotine kick, but also the greater the amount of formaldehyde.

E-cigarette liquids typically contain propylene glycol, which when heated is known to release formaldehyde gas. "Vaping" at high voltage also produced formaldehyde-containing compounds known as hemiacetals, the researchers found.

Formaldehyde inhaled as a gas been associated with an increased risk of leukemia and nasopharyngeal cancer, which affects the upper part of the throat behind the nose.

It is not known exactly where formaldehyde contained in hemiacetals gets deposited in the body or whether it is similarly toxic, said James Pankow, one of the study's authors.

"There has never been a cancer study with hemiacetals," Pankow said in an interview.

Absent such a study, the authors estimated the formaldehyde-related cancer risk associated with e-cigarettes by extrapolating from data on formaldehyde in cigarettes.

They concluded that the life-time risk of developing formaldehyde-related cancer at roughly 1 in 200 for high-voltage e-cigarettes versus 1 in 1,000 for cigarettes - at least five times higher. They found no increased risk for people vaping at a low voltage.

Dr. Neal Benowitz, a nicotine expert at the University of California, San Francisco, said the study could prove useful to the U.S. Food and Drug Administration as it prepares to regulate e-cigarettes, potentially including limits on formaldehyde.

But he questioned the legitimacy of comparing the effect of formaldehyde delivered in a cigarette to that delivered via hemiacetal, in droplet form, in an e-cigarette. The effect on organs could be entirely different, he said.

Other critics said that in the real world most "vapers" do not push the voltage to the levels seen in the study as the taste would become unpalatable. They also noted that the overall health risk of conventional cigarettes, which contain 70,000 toxins in addition to formaldehyde, is far greater than any formaldehyde risk associated with e-cigarettes.

"Lifelong smokers face a greater than 1 in 2 chance of dying from smoking-related diseases, including a roughly 1 in 10 chance of dying from lung cancer," said Jed Rose, director of the Center for Smoking Cessation at Duke University Medical Center.

Pankow conceded that the study could have contained more context about overall relative risk, but said the authors "just wanted to get it out."

They submitted it to the NEJM in the form of a letter, which a spokeswoman for the journal said was peer-reviewed. Pankow said letters tend to be less detailed than other studies.

David Abrams, executive director of the Schroeder Institute for Tobacco Research and Policy Studies at the anti-tobacco group Legacy, said he was concerned the study would be taken out of context "in the worst possible way."

For most vapers who use e-cigarettes as intended, he said, the findings show "there are non-detectable levels of formaldehyde ... which means people can use them to help them quit smoking lethal cigarettes."

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What is the default voltage for most e-cigs?

I vape at 3.7V - max 4.2 if a battery if fully charged (a 3.7V 18650 will start discharging around 4.2V but then rapidly fall off to ~3.7 and will continue to produce vapor down to about 3.2V) I also use VG (vegetable glycerin)-based juices almost exclusively rather than PG-based. So, I'm considering my formaldehyde intake to be negligible if anything.

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What is the default voltage for most e-cigs?

I vape at 3.7V - max 4.2 if a battery if fully charged (a 3.7V 18650 will start discharging around 4.2V but then rapidly fall off to ~3.7 and will continue to produce vapor down to about 3.2V) I also use VG (vegetable glycerin)-based juices almost exclusively rather than PG-based. So, I'm considering my formaldehyde intake to be negligible if anything.

What's your usual VG/PG ratio in the juices you make?

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What is the default voltage for most e-cigs?

I vape at 3.7V - max 4.2 if a battery if fully charged (a 3.7V 18650 will start discharging around 4.2V but then rapidly fall off to ~3.7 and will continue to produce vapor down to about 3.2V) I also use VG (vegetable glycerin)-based juices almost exclusively rather than PG-based. So, I'm considering my formaldehyde intake to be negligible if anything.

What's your usual VG/PG ratio in the juices you make?

100% VG most of the time. Occasionally, I'll make a 90/10 or 80/20.

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Wow that's some thick stuff!

I do the vast majority of my vaping through the REO Grand - the owner (Rob O' Neil) manufactured those specifically to work best with pure VG-based liquids as he has a PG allergy. Most devices/atomizers don't play well with VG, but I have my REO outfitted with a sub-ohm kit with rebuildable double coil atomizers and ReadyX ceramic wick, which all works swimmingly with VG juices.

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Wow that's some thick stuff!

I do the vast majority of my vaping through the REO Grand - the owner (Rob O' Neil) manufactured those specifically to work best with pure VG-based liquids as he has a PG allergy. Most devices/atomizers don't play well with VG, but I have my REO outfitted with a sub-ohm kit with rebuildable double coil atomizers and ReadyX ceramic wick, which all works swimmingly with VG juices.

I'm thinking about picking up a reo. Right now my go-to is a Provari 2.0.

What type of atomizers are you using?

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Wow that's some thick stuff!

I do the vast majority of my vaping through the REO Grand - the owner (Rob O' Neil) manufactured those specifically to work best with pure VG-based liquids as he has a PG allergy. Most devices/atomizers don't play well with VG, but I have my REO outfitted with a sub-ohm kit with rebuildable double coil atomizers and ReadyX ceramic wick, which all works swimmingly with VG juices.

I'm thinking about picking up a reo. Right now my go-to is a Provari 2.0.

What type of atomizers are you using?

Reomizer 2.0 rba. It's $43 but that's a one-time cost. From there, you make a coil out of kanthal wire and a wick out of cotton, bamboo, or ceramic wicking (a pinch of cotton, like off a cotton ball, rolled out into wick shape with your fingers works beautifully.) Replace the wick every couple of weeks, the coil will last months or even years. You can burn it clean with the unit itself.

I have my daily vape expense down to about $0.05/day between being able to re-wick with a fraction of a cent's worth of cotton instead of a $2 atomizer and making my own juice with hyper-concentrated flavors.

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Wow that's some thick stuff!

I do the vast majority of my vaping through the REO Grand - the owner (Rob O' Neil) manufactured those specifically to work best with pure VG-based liquids as he has a PG allergy. Most devices/atomizers don't play well with VG, but I have my REO outfitted with a sub-ohm kit with rebuildable double coil atomizers and ReadyX ceramic wick, which all works swimmingly with VG juices.

I'm thinking about picking up a reo. Right now my go-to is a Provari 2.0.

What type of atomizers are you using?

Reomizer 2.0 rba. It's $43 but that's a one-time cost. From there, you make a coil out of kanthal wire and a wick out of cotton, bamboo, or ceramic wicking (a pinch of cotton, like off a cotton ball, rolled out into wick shape with your fingers works beautifully.) Replace the wick every couple of weeks, the coil will last months or even years. You can burn it clean with the unit itself.

I have my daily vape expense down to about $0.05/day between being able to re-wick with a fraction of a cent's worth of cotton instead of a $2 atomizer and making my own juice with hyper-concentrated flavors.

I've got a Russian 91 that I use on an itaste 134 at home, but I'm less handy than a guy named Art hanging on a wall. Me rewicking is worse than Eli Whitney's workshop.

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Wow that's some thick stuff!

I do the vast majority of my vaping through the REO Grand - the owner (Rob O' Neil) manufactured those specifically to work best with pure VG-based liquids as he has a PG allergy. Most devices/atomizers don't play well with VG, but I have my REO outfitted with a sub-ohm kit with rebuildable double coil atomizers and ReadyX ceramic wick, which all works swimmingly with VG juices.

I'm thinking about picking up a reo. Right now my go-to is a Provari 2.0.

What type of atomizers are you using?

Reomizer 2.0 rba. It's $43 but that's a one-time cost. From there, you make a coil out of kanthal wire and a wick out of cotton, bamboo, or ceramic wicking (a pinch of cotton, like off a cotton ball, rolled out into wick shape with your fingers works beautifully.) Replace the wick every couple of weeks, the coil will last months or even years. You can burn it clean with the unit itself.

I have my daily vape expense down to about $0.05/day between being able to re-wick with a fraction of a cent's worth of cotton instead of a $2 atomizer and making my own juice with hyper-concentrated flavors.

I've got a Russian 91 that I use on an itaste 134 at home, but I'm less handy than a guy named Art hanging on a wall. Me rewicking is worse than Eli Whitney's workshop.

Re-wicking these coils is so incredibly simple. Pinch of cotton, roll it into a wick shape with thumb and forefinger, slide it in, cut off ends to fit under the cap of the RBA. It literally takes 60 seconds, and I'm just as feeble as you are, I'm sure. I can barely change the tire on my car.

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I'm also using a REO Grande with a reomizer. It just rocks. Been using the REO for over 4 years. I'm planning on getting another reomizer for my reo mini.

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OK this thread is too long to read through...I'm done with the DCT tanks...the cartos are too PITA to keep wet, they don't last, and I'm tired of dry nasty hits.

What's the next step up? I'm using 510 ego style batteries right now...I want something that I can get flavorful, heavy vape hits with every time. Also looking for a setup less than $100 for initial setup, and low monthly cost.

Whatchya got?

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OK this thread is too long to read through...I'm done with the DCT tanks...the cartos are too PITA to keep wet, they don't last, and I'm tired of dry nasty hits.

What's the next step up? I'm using 510 ego style batteries right now...I want something that I can get flavorful, heavy vape hits with every time. Also looking for a setup less than $100 for initial setup, and low monthly cost.

Whatchya got?

Wish I could help. I bought my REO Grande and Reo Mini 4 years ago and those are the only two devices I use. It would be more than $100 to get set up, but will last a lifetime (Mechanical mod made out of a block of aluminum). I know EG uses a Reo, or did last I heard. reo grande is like $150, you would want a Reomizer RBA for $45. And then batteries are about $10 (AW 18650) a piece.

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OK this thread is too long to read through...I'm done with the DCT tanks...the cartos are too PITA to keep wet, they don't last, and I'm tired of dry nasty hits.

What's the next step up? I'm using 510 ego style batteries right now...I want something that I can get flavorful, heavy vape hits with every time. Also looking for a setup less than $100 for initial setup, and low monthly cost.

Whatchya got?

30W ileaf stick for 45 bucks. Aspire Nautilus tank for 25 bucks. Pack of 5 coils for 20 bucks.

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OK this thread is too long to read through...I'm done with the DCT tanks...the cartos are too PITA to keep wet, they don't last, and I'm tired of dry nasty hits.

What's the next step up? I'm using 510 ego style batteries right now...I want something that I can get flavorful, heavy vape hits with every time. Also looking for a setup less than $100 for initial setup, and low monthly cost.

Whatchya got?

I use an eLeaf istick 30W variable voltage with a mini Nautilus. Works great, and comes in well under $100.

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OK this thread is too long to read through...I'm done with the DCT tanks...the cartos are too PITA to keep wet, they don't last, and I'm tired of dry nasty hits.

What's the next step up? I'm using 510 ego style batteries right now...I want something that I can get flavorful, heavy vape hits with every time. Also looking for a setup less than $100 for initial setup, and low monthly cost.

Whatchya got?

I use an eLeaf istick 30W variable voltage

That thing looks pretty bad ###. How's the performance?

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I've got 2 eleaf istick 50w and have 2 of these https://www.myfreedomsmokes.com/tanks-rbas/subohm-tanks/kanger-subtank-mini-rta-atomizer.html.

The flavor from these tanks is incredible.

I also have one of these http://vapenw.com/sub-ohm-tank/delta-ii-atomizer-by-joyetech. The flavor is a notch below the Kanger sub tank mini but the vapor production is amazing. Big clouds.

The Kanger comes with an extra glass tube, extra orings, and the rebuildable section is included also.

I highly recommend the Kanger subtank mini.

You will go through more juice with these tanks but it's worth it. A different way to vape.

Now let me say this. If you are gonne rock one of these you need to make sure you have a mod that can handle it. You also need to go 6mg of nicotine or lower.

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I also have one of these http://vapenw.com/sub-ohm-tank/delta-ii-atomizer-by-joyetech. The flavor is a notch below the Kanger sub tank mini but the vapor production is amazing. Big clouds.

How often do you have replace the coil head? No rebuilding or anything with these right?

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Also let me repeat that Fasttech is truly awesome if you have the patience to wait for the delivery times (10-14 days). All this stuff comes from China anyway, so you are basically eliminating the middle man. Almost all their prices are 20%-40% lower than retail.

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I also have one of these http://vapenw.com/sub-ohm-tank/delta-ii-atomizer-by-joyetech. The flavor is a notch below the Kanger sub tank mini but the vapor production is amazing. Big clouds.

How often do you have replace the coil head? No rebuilding or anything with these right?

I ordered my first one on May 23 and ordered my second one on June 6. I'm still on the same .5 ohm coils that came with both. They also come with a 1.2 ohm head. I'm not a real heavy vapor though. I usually go through one of these tanks a day( 3.5 ml). I set the wattage between 21-25. I'm sure both of mine will need to changed soon.

You don't have to rebuild with these, but you can. I've never tried. I bought 2 5 pack .5ohm heads on June 6 also. Here's a link. https://www.myfreedomsmokes.com/replacement-coils-heads/shop-by-brand/kangertech/occ-vertical-coil-replacement-head-5pack.html

These tanks are real easy to fill and clean which is a bonus.

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Jesus, taking a quick look at some of the recommendations, I feel like a noob all over again. I have zero clue as to how these tanks work and the terminology...I think Ill hit one of my local vape shops and see if they carry any of these and have them show me the ins and outs.

Or maybe Ill just hang it up and try to quit.

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Jesus, taking a quick look at some of the recommendations, I feel like a noob all over again. I have zero clue as to how these tanks work and the terminology...I think Ill hit one of my local vape shops and see if they carry any of these and have them show me the ins and outs.

Or maybe Ill just hang it up and try to quit.

Kanger EMOW. Its simple. It works well. End of story.

Its what I use.

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OK this thread is too long to read through...I'm done with the DCT tanks...the cartos are too PITA to keep wet, they don't last, and I'm tired of dry nasty hits.

What's the next step up? I'm using 510 ego style batteries right now...I want something that I can get flavorful, heavy vape hits with every time. Also looking for a setup less than $100 for initial setup, and low monthly cost.

Whatchya got?

Wish I could help. I bought my REO Grande and Reo Mini 4 years ago and those are the only two devices I use. It would be more than $100 to get set up, but will last a lifetime (Mechanical mod made out of a block of aluminum). I know EG uses a Reo, or did last I heard. reo grande is like $150, you would want a Reomizer RBA for $45. And then batteries are about $10 (AW 18650) a piece.

I still use the Grand. Highly recommend. Yeah, the unit and the RBA and a few batteries are going to run you about $250 up front, but then the cost of vaping drops to nearly zero. I bought a liter of 100mg nic base and 3 bottles of hyper-concentrated FlavourArt juice flavoring (which lasts a long time, you can mix your stuff at 1-3% flavor and it's very vapable) so now my only costs of maintenance are kanthal wire, cotton balls and the occasional quart of vegetable glycerin. I spend maybe $5-10 annually on vaping and the REOs are built to last forever. I suppose the Reomizer RBA may crap the bed at some point, so that's $45 to replace, and I have to buy a liter of the nic base every 3 years or so, but vaping is basically free for me now with a ~$300 initial investment.

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OK this thread is too long to read through...I'm done with the DCT tanks...the cartos are too PITA to keep wet, they don't last, and I'm tired of dry nasty hits.

What's the next step up? I'm using 510 ego style batteries right now...I want something that I can get flavorful, heavy vape hits with every time. Also looking for a setup less than $100 for initial setup, and low monthly cost.

Whatchya got?

I use an eLeaf istick 30W variable voltage

That thing looks pretty bad ###. How's the performance?

No issues at all. Works great. The only problem I have is that it's easy to accidentally adjust the voltage when it's in your pocket, so every now and then I'll get a blast at 5+ volts instead of the 4.0 where I usually have it.

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Jesus, taking a quick look at some of the recommendations, I feel like a noob all over again. I have zero clue as to how these tanks work and the terminology...I think Ill hit one of my local vape shops and see if they carry any of these and have them show me the ins and outs.

Or maybe Ill just hang it up and try to quit.

Kanger EMOW. Its simple. It works well. End of story.

Its what I use.

Checked out a video of this, it looks simple enough. I dont want to get into the box style batteries, Id rather stick with the traditional type (currently using 1300mAh Smok Ego winders), so I might look deeper into these. Im more about flavor than huge vape clouds.

My only concern with the EMOW is with a 1.8ml tank capacity, Id feel like Id filling it constantly.

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Jesus, taking a quick look at some of the recommendations, I feel like a noob all over again. I have zero clue as to how these tanks work and the terminology...I think Ill hit one of my local vape shops and see if they carry any of these and have them show me the ins and outs.

Or maybe Ill just hang it up and try to quit.

Kanger EMOW. Its simple. It works well. End of story.

Its what I use.

Checked out a video of this, it looks simple enough. I dont want to get into the box style batteries, Id rather stick with the traditional type (currently using 1300mAh Smok Ego winders), so I might look deeper into these. Im more about flavor than huge vape clouds.

My only concern with the EMOW is with a 1.8ml tank capacity, Id feel like Id filling it constantly.

Yeah, tank capacity isn't the best (you can use other tanks though). I do really like the airflow adjuster on it, works great.

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OK this thread is too long to read through...I'm done with the DCT tanks...the cartos are too PITA to keep wet, they don't last, and I'm tired of dry nasty hits.

What's the next step up? I'm using 510 ego style batteries right now...I want something that I can get flavorful, heavy vape hits with every time. Also looking for a setup less than $100 for initial setup, and low monthly cost.

Whatchya got?

I use an eLeaf istick 30W variable voltage

That thing looks pretty bad ###. How's the performance?

No issues at all. Works great. The only problem I have is that it's easy to accidentally adjust the voltage when it's in your pocket, so every now and then I'll get a blast at 5+ volts instead of the 4.0 where I usually have it.

I've had this happen a time or two as well. The way to prevent this is to hold the up/down buttons together for 3 seconds to lock or unlock the device. The only thing that will work when the device is locked is the fire button.

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OK this thread is too long to read through...I'm done with the DCT tanks...the cartos are too PITA to keep wet, they don't last, and I'm tired of dry nasty hits.

What's the next step up? I'm using 510 ego style batteries right now...I want something that I can get flavorful, heavy vape hits with every time. Also looking for a setup less than $100 for initial setup, and low monthly cost.

Whatchya got?

I use an eLeaf istick 30W variable voltage

That thing looks pretty bad ###. How's the performance?

No issues at all. Works great. The only problem I have is that it's easy to accidentally adjust the voltage when it's in your pocket, so every now and then I'll get a blast at 5+ volts instead of the 4.0 where I usually have it.

I ordered it and a Kanger Subtank mini.

I had been off the analogs for two+ years but fell off the wagon a bit lately. Need some new gear to keep me engaged.

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Been ecig free for like a month now. Finally found some 0mg that I liked after I didn't get one of my Boba's shipments fast enough and had to hit the local vape shop. After about a month of that, I was like WTF am I doing this for if I don't really need nicotine.

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I know this is a stupid reason to change all my equipment, but I'd really prefer a boxier look/feel from my ecig. I'm considering moving to an eleaf kind of a thing but don't know what to get. I don't really need any bells and whistles - my visions spinner IIs are fine, set almost permanently to 3.8 volts, I'd just like a longer lasting battery and a more sturdy feel to it. Any suggestions for an old guy who doesn't want anything fancy?

Best case scenario:

A boxy battery that is easy to lock onto settings and forget about

A tank that isn't made of glass and is virtually impossible to break

Don't have to replace coils very often.

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I know this is a stupid reason to change all my equipment, but I'd really prefer a boxier look/feel from my ecig. I'm considering moving to an eleaf kind of a thing but don't know what to get. I don't really need any bells and whistles - my visions spinner IIs are fine, set almost permanently to 3.8 volts, I'd just like a longer lasting battery and a more sturdy feel to it. Any suggestions for an old guy who doesn't want anything fancy?

Best case scenario:

A boxy battery that is easy to lock onto settings and forget about

A tank that isn't made of glass and is virtually impossible to break

Don't have to replace coils very often.

REO Grand or mini with the Reomizer RBA. reosmods.com

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I know this is a stupid reason to change all my equipment, but I'd really prefer a boxier look/feel from my ecig. I'm considering moving to an eleaf kind of a thing but don't know what to get. I don't really need any bells and whistles - my visions spinner IIs are fine, set almost permanently to 3.8 volts, I'd just like a longer lasting battery and a more sturdy feel to it. Any suggestions for an old guy who doesn't want anything fancy?

Best case scenario:

A boxy battery that is easy to lock onto settings and forget about

A tank that isn't made of glass and is virtually impossible to break

Don't have to replace coils very often.

REO Grand or mini with the Reomizer RBA. reosmods.com

Thanks. That seems much more expensive than others I've seen, but it's worth it?

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I know this is a stupid reason to change all my equipment, but I'd really prefer a boxier look/feel from my ecig. I'm considering moving to an eleaf kind of a thing but don't know what to get. I don't really need any bells and whistles - my visions spinner IIs are fine, set almost permanently to 3.8 volts, I'd just like a longer lasting battery and a more sturdy feel to it. Any suggestions for an old guy who doesn't want anything fancy?

Best case scenario:

A boxy battery that is easy to lock onto settings and forget about

A tank that isn't made of glass and is virtually impossible to break

Don't have to replace coils very often.

REO Grand or mini with the Reomizer RBA. reosmods.com
Thanks. That seems much more expensive than others I've seen, but it's worth it?
Well, it's virtually indestructible and it brings your cost of vaping down to virtually nil. A few 18650 batteries, some kanthal wire and wicking material (I use ready x wick which lasts forever but you could easily use cotton balls) and you're done. I make my own juice too - vaping costs me less than a dollar a month.

It's mechanical too, so in theory the mod will last basically forever.

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I know this is a stupid reason to change all my equipment, but I'd really prefer a boxier look/feel from my ecig. I'm considering moving to an eleaf kind of a thing but don't know what to get. I don't really need any bells and whistles - my visions spinner IIs are fine, set almost permanently to 3.8 volts, I'd just like a longer lasting battery and a more sturdy feel to it. Any suggestions for an old guy who doesn't want anything fancy?

Best case scenario:

A boxy battery that is easy to lock onto settings and forget about

A tank that isn't made of glass and is virtually impossible to break

Don't have to replace coils very often.

REO Grand or mini with the Reomizer RBA. reosmods.com

Thanks. That seems much more expensive than others I've seen, but it's worth it?

Those who squonk will tell you a Reo is worth it and more.

I've heard very few negative reviews and I often think about biting the bullet on a Woodvil.

I have heard that you need to drill your RBA to get them to properly get the Reo to work.

I'm not handy enough for all of that.

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