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Brock Osweiler (1 Viewer)
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msommer
Footballguy
Well, he is guaranteed to have made 37m by the end of next season. And unless there is some sort of epiphany that'll pretty much be it (a back up contract or two maybe)
Not too bad for a 4th round pick. I hope he has good financial advice and is able to live like when he was a 4th round pick again, because then he is set for life
Not too bad for a 4th round pick. I hope he has good financial advice and is able to live like when he was a 4th round pick again, because then he is set for life
msommer
Footballguy
2nd round pick then. That's still 40m for six years of work.
I always get him confused with Cousins who IIRC was a 4th round pick.
Or my memory is going. One of the two
Goat Boy
Footballguy
mr roboto
Footballguy
Brunell4MVP
Footballguy
First time I've seen Osweiler this year. He was really, really bad. Houston has a good team, except for him.
Bojang0301
Omar4Heisman
He's made the playoffs the past two years with QB's that make Ryan Fitzpatrick look like Peyton Manning. He made Penn State look acceptable with 1/3rd of his scholarships stripped away, made Matt McGloin into an acceptable NFL backup and got Hackenberg to play well enough under him his freshman year he was drafted in the 2nd round even though he's complete trash. I don't think he's the next Belichick by he's a pretty decent coach.
Aznflyer14
Footballguy
His OC definitely blows. Lamar Miller 20 fewer targets for a guy that was catching more passes every year since he came into the league. They have no idea what a screen pass is and while osWILDer is horrible, the fact that they threw to Miller less, and Miller is a close target, tells me the guy is a moron. Even when Miller would go out for a pass and was wide open, osWILDer was too busy locked onto the primary and throwing into tight coverage.
Both OsWILDer and the OC blow.
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Madden Curse
Footballguy
Good news for you: Texans just fired said blowing OC.
http://www.rotoworld.com/headlines/nfl/353575/texans-fire-offensive-coordinator-g-godsey?ls=roto:FA:topheadlines
squistion
Footballguy
Ian RapoportVerified account @RapSheet 17m17 minutes ago
The#Browns have just traded for Brock Osweiler, sources say (as @AdamSchefter reported).
He goes from the#Texans with a 2018 2nd rounder.
Rich EisenVerified account@richeisen 14m14 minutes ago
BREAKING:
the Osweiler and a 2nd to Cleveland for a 4th round pick does indeed include a bag of donuts.
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BREAKING:
the Osweiler and a 2nd to Cleveland for a 4th round pick does indeed include a bag of donuts.
SproutDaddy
Footballguy
you know this guy is pissed
Tackling Dummies
Footballguy
Not so sure I'd call it incredible. Just another name on the endless list of turd QBs, a bad contract and a sinkhole of an asset.
squistion
Footballguy
NFLTradeRumors.co @nfltrade_rumors 3m3 minutes ago
Update:#Browns Weighing Possibility Of Releasing Brock Osweiler, Despite Trading For Him
http://bit.ly/2n4AiOI
Update:
http://bit.ly/2n4AiOI
Pipes
Footballguy
They didn't do it for Osweiler. The Browns weren't going to spend 100 million of cap space they had so why not eat his salary for 1 year (no guaranteed money for Brook after 2017 season) and gain a 2nd rounder. This was a great team for both teams.
Hankmoody
Footballguy
I dunno he's getting $17M and can now go negotiate a contract.
Houston turmOiler
Footballguy
Amazing nobody was fired before this move was made. It will be interesting to watch us follow up that terrible signing with another terrible move.... the quarterback search throughout the history of this franchise has been less than inspiring. Does anyone have any faith the Texans can actually figure this out?
squistion
Footballguy
Matt Schaub was OK and I still think that Ryan Mallett is better than his detractors indicate, but yeah, based on their track record it is hard to optimistic that they will eventually get it right after so many misfires.
squistion
Footballguy
http://www.rotoworld.com/player/nfl/7450/brock-osweiler
According to Pro Football Talk's Mike Florio, the Texans decided to move on from Brock Osweiler following a halftime altercation with coach Bill O'Brien in Week 17.
Osweiler's tiff with O'Brien had been mentioned in passing, but apparently it was the deciding factor in Houston's decision to find a new quarterback. Tom Savage started against the Titans in Week 17 but was ruled out in the second quarter after suffering a concussion. Osweiler lashed out at O'Brien after he was told that he'd be finishing the game, ripping O'Brien for using him only because he had to. As the conflict escalated, Osweiler accused O'Brien of holding him hostage after O'Brien blocked him from walking away. Eventually the two had to be separated. It's common for stories to leak out like this after a messy divorce, but clearly Osweiler was never right for Houston. Mar 12 - 12:53 PM
Source: Pro Football Talk on Twitter
According to Pro Football Talk's Mike Florio, the Texans decided to move on from Brock Osweiler following a halftime altercation with coach Bill O'Brien in Week 17.
Osweiler's tiff with O'Brien had been mentioned in passing, but apparently it was the deciding factor in Houston's decision to find a new quarterback. Tom Savage started against the Titans in Week 17 but was ruled out in the second quarter after suffering a concussion. Osweiler lashed out at O'Brien after he was told that he'd be finishing the game, ripping O'Brien for using him only because he had to. As the conflict escalated, Osweiler accused O'Brien of holding him hostage after O'Brien blocked him from walking away. Eventually the two had to be separated. It's common for stories to leak out like this after a messy divorce, but clearly Osweiler was never right for Houston. Mar 12 - 12:53 PM
Source: Pro Football Talk on Twitter
GregR
Footballguy
If his contract contained offset language, then any 2017 salary from the new contract would just replace an equal amount from the $16m the Browns have to pay him. He wouldn't be able to double dip. I haven't seen anything definitive on if it does contain offset or not. But given the player-friendly size of the guaranteed money if I had to bet I'd probably bet the team got it in there.
So if so, the only real benefit he'd likely have is getting to pick where to go be a backup.
Hankmoody
Footballguy
Yeah I was a little surprised, but did find out after I posted that he does indeed have offset - I didn't expect that on that kind of contract. So the poor guy is just gonna have to settle for the $16M total.
GregR
Footballguy
You know, Brock was bad last year.
But I bet he has more of a chance of still turning into at least a moderate NFL QB than the majority would give him credit for. Not that I'd bet he will... he has accuracy issues that I'm not sure he'll be able to solve. Just the league is very quick to give up on people. And I'm not sure last year was the best environment for him. It wouldn't floor me if he could still salvage an Alex Smith or Ryan Fitzpatrick type career.
But I bet he has more of a chance of still turning into at least a moderate NFL QB than the majority would give him credit for. Not that I'd bet he will... he has accuracy issues that I'm not sure he'll be able to solve. Just the league is very quick to give up on people. And I'm not sure last year was the best environment for him. It wouldn't floor me if he could still salvage an Alex Smith or Ryan Fitzpatrick type career.
BoltBacker
Footballguy
It wasn't that long ago everybody wanted to write off Michael Crabtree. If you would have told people he was going to be more productive than Amari Cooper over the past two seasons most people would have laughed at you two years ago. It could never happen because Crabtree just can't get separation, or so all the "experts" said. I often wonder if some of the same folks that consider Osweiler done were the same ones that considered Crabtree done.
BoltBacker
Footballguy
This rotoworld spin that CLE just HAD TO cut Osweiler always seemed stupid to me.
He really can't be a backup QB in CLE? Really? Here is a list of their last 27 STARTING quarterbacks and Osweiler isn't good enough to even be a backup? Idiotic.
2016Robert Griffin III (5) / Josh McCown (3) / Cody Kessler (8)
2015Josh McCown (8) / Johnny Manziel (6) / Austin Davis (2)
2014Brian Hoyer (13) / Johnny Manziel (2) / Connor Shaw (1)
2013Jason Campbell (8) / Brandon Weeden (5) / Brian Hoyer (3)
2012Brandon Weeden (15) / Thad Lewis (1)
2011Colt McCoy (13) / Seneca Wallace (3)
2010Colt McCoy (8) / Jake Delhomme (4) / Seneca Wallace (4)
2009Brady Quinn (9) / Derek Anderson (7)
2008Derek Anderson (9) / Brady Quinn (3) / Ken Dorsey (3) / Bruce Gradkowski (1)
2007Derek Anderson (15) / Charlie Frye (1)
2006Charlie Frye (13) / Derek Anderson (3)
2005Trent Dilfer (11) / Charlie Frye (5)
2004Jeff Garcia (10) / Kelly Holcomb (2) / Luke McCown (4)
2003Kelly Holcomb (8) / Tim Couch (8)
2002Tim Couch (14) / Kelly Holcomb (2)
2001Tim Couch (16)
2000Doug Pederson (8) / Tim Couch (7) / Spergon Wynn (1)
1999Tim Couch (14) / Ty Detmer (2)
stuckinthemuck
Footballguy
Sometimes we need to hold ourselves accountable. What an embarrassment. Fantasy football is a humbling experience.
King of the Jungle
Footballguy
Sometimes there is no way to know until we know. Good organization, years of experience serving backup, an all time great to learn from.....wth could have gone wrong!?stuckinthemuck said:
TheFanatic
Footballguy
So somebody failed in predicting the future. Maybe holding ourselves accountable is not the right term. more like, let's realize that the odds of predicting the future are not that great to begin with.stuckinthemuck said:
I agree, why not keep him for a year and kick the tires. Maybe he can turn it around with a different scheme, different coaching.
Now if the Browns do end up drafting a QB with one of their 2 firsts, I could see how having him on the roster might be a detriment, although I could see sticking Brock out there to take the pounding while you get your new rookie QB some seasoning.
Now if the Browns do end up drafting a QB with one of their 2 firsts, I could see how having him on the roster might be a detriment, although I could see sticking Brock out there to take the pounding while you get your new rookie QB some seasoning.
