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Hope that holds true as I took Stafford with my first pick at 1.12. If he can just stay healthy,along with Megatron,maybe he can have another year numbers wise as 2011.Tremendous if he can improve on last year but it'll be difficult for sure. I just thought Stafford was the best pick for me at 12 with what was available and the players with question marks and injuries.'bicycle_seat_sniffer said:Drafting QBs early has been the correct strategy fro years. people just now catching up
Amazing how much Stafford has moved up the boards. Last year in WSL4 I got Stafford at pick 6.05. It helps that he was able to stay healthy for a full year. He always had the ability, people just had questions as to whether he would stay healthy for a full year or not.Hope that holds true as I took Stafford with my first pick at 1.12. If he can just stay healthy,along with Megatron,maybe he can have another year numbers wise as 2011.Tremendous if he can improve on last year but it'll be difficult for sure. I just thought Stafford was the best pick for me at 12 with what was available and the players with question marks and injuries.'bicycle_seat_sniffer said:Drafting QBs early has been the correct strategy fro years. people just now catching up
LOL. Survivor wise not well.How that work out for ya last year doug e fresh?
Yeah, he's moved up the boards pretty good since his production last year and certainly staying healthy helped him immensely. He is a big risk/big reward type guy but I figured with the QB's that were still available I was willing to take the risk. Now what I'll have to do is make sure I back him up with a decent 2nd QB later on.Amazing how much Stafford has moved up the boards. Last year in WSL4 I got Stafford at pick 6.05. It helps that he was able to stay healthy for a full year. He always had the ability, people just had questions as to whether he would stay healthy for a full year or not.Hope that holds true as I took Stafford with my first pick at 1.12. If he can just stay healthy,along with Megatron,maybe he can have another year numbers wise as 2011.Tremendous if he can improve on last year but it'll be difficult for sure. I just thought Stafford was the best pick for me at 12 with what was available and the players with question marks and injuries.'bicycle_seat_sniffer said:Drafting QBs early has been the correct strategy fro years. people just now catching up
You may well be right. I was REALLY hoping Jordy would slip to me at 2.16. Taking Cruz was a bit of a risk, but I like the blowup-week guys more in this format than consistency from any one player. Ray Rice was basically a homer pick but if he finishes top 5, I'm happy.After 3 rounds I have 1 RB and 2 WR. Missed out on Jordy, but feel confident I have the #1 RB in ppr and have 2 WR's that will be the leading targets on their respective teams next year.
Sounds to me like Bradshaw has issues in his foot that will never be cleared up and is something he will have to deal with that hopefully doesn't get much worse.Murray sounds ahead of schedule on a break - Plus he's the "New Toy" on the block that Dallas sounds committed too...Reaper Bradshaw worries you healthwise but Murray doesn't?
Blaine Gabbert went 8.02 last year in WSL2.Cam finished 4th in QB scoring - Dalton at 16th. A rook at QB21 is probably not too much of a reach.WOW.....the Cam Newton effect is outragous...a rookie QB taken in the 8th?
I figured I'd take a chance on him as my #2 QB since I'm feeling more & more convinced Manning will be gone and Luck starts from day one. Even as highly touted as Luck has been I'm not expecting Cam-like numbers from him this year, but I'll take them if by chance it happens. I think he'll have some big games but have his struggles too. After seeing what players were still available at the offensive positions I figured Luck offered me the best value and potential at 8.05. Sure he comes with risk, especially if Manning stays, but I'm willing to accept that risk. I think he'll prove to be a decent pick for the 8th round.See that someone else believes in a rookie QB as RG3 went right after my Luck pick. I think he stands a good chance of starting right away for whatever team he goes to. No doubt some team is gonna want to trade up to #2 to get him.WOW.....the Cam Newton effect is outragous...a rookie QB taken in the 8th?
I was going to take him if he would have fell a little more to me. After that QB run, Gabbart was the only one left that I felt comfortable with as being almost guaranteed a starting position next year.You guys are making this draft hard, but a lot of fun.Everybody scared of Peyton? Surprised at some of the guys who went ahead of him.
I think it's the risk/reward - if you already have a very solid #1, Peyton is all risk - he won't improve your QB score all that much, but he could fail to cover your bye. If your #1 is shakier, Peyton is a lot more reward - could be your #1 in the 8th - so the risk is tolerable. That's why I opted for Fitz over him. In a redraft, Peyton is still in my top 10-15 QBs on upside alone.Also, reading between the lines, Peyton doesn't seem that close to playing right now, and no one can say if he'll make progress. It's not like a torn ACL where we know the general timeline. Certainly, these drafts are terrific for seeing where the conventional wisdom is, and it is obviously down on Peyton.Everybody scared of Peyton? Surprised at some of the guys who went ahead of him.
I had always planned on taking Flynn or Fitz in the 8th, but yeah there is a psychological effect of having your core rounded out in the first seven rounds that makes the 8th the "right" time to take a backup QB. Since almost everyone is targeting the position at the same time, it makes sense to get while the gettin is good - everyone after you gets two shots at QB before your next pick, so you have no excuse if you get left out in the cold.Not scared of Peyton. Had my eye on him. Wanted to pick him up in the 8th but felt I should wait a little longer. Nice pick Aaron.Not sure why Gamma taking Tebow and myself taking Flynn set off that run but I'm sure glad I was at the front end of it. I wasn't sure a run would occur, but when looking at the rosters at the beginning of the 8th round I noticed that both "end" teams were already holding their QB2. I knew it was a possibility that most of the QB's available would be gone by the time I picked again. So, I took Flynn on a whim, thinking that he may end up in Miami. Of course, Peyton could end up there also so I don't know if that move will pay off. I also thought Flynn would be a safer pick than a rookie, but I really don't hold much faith in that either.BTW, I've never seen a QB run like that in these mocks before.......ever. At least, not smack in the middle of the 8th round.
I agree with all of this. Peyton doesn't make much sense for my team with Rodgers as my QB1. I would have probably preferred a safer option like Fitz as well for the bye week security. I guess I was surprised to see Flynn, Griffin, Luck, A.Smith, etc. all go ahead of Peyton though. Lots of risk in that group (plus Tebow too). The fact that I got Peyton just ahead of Blaine Gabbert and Matt Cassel made it a no-brainer regardless of who my QB1 was.I think it's the risk/reward - if you already have a very solid #1, Peyton is all risk - he won't improve your QB score all that much, but he could fail to cover your bye. If your #1 is shakier, Peyton is a lot more reward - could be your #1 in the 8th - so the risk is tolerable. That's why I opted for Fitz over him. In a redraft, Peyton is still in my top 10-15 QBs on upside alone.Everybody scared of Peyton? Surprised at some of the guys who went ahead of him.
No way Alex Smith doesn't get a new deal.How bout SF?
I've heard rumors that Peyton and Harbaugh did not get along with each other after Manning was drafted and before Harbaugh went to Baltimore. Not sure how true this is and not sure how much they interacted before Harbaugh left.'Fiddles said:How bout SF?
I think they can absolutely give up on Kolb. He's due a $7M bonus in March but might not even be their starter. They only gave him $12MM so far.With Peyton on that team, they are a Super Bowl contender again. With Kolb, they won't even sniff the playoffs.'valence said:I think there is about a 5% chance that he ends up in Arizona. I really don't think they can give up on Kolb after 1 year. Do you think they can admit that the Kolb signing was a mistake only one year out with no real off-season to work with him? I don't.
Seemed like they were pretty open to letting Skelton win the job but that didnt work out for them. Obviously they have set a precedence with Warner that they are good with letting a vet run the offense.I think they can absolutely give up on Kolb. He's due a $7M bonus in March but might not even be their starter. They only gave him $12MM so far.With Peyton on that team, they are a Super Bowl contender again. With Kolb, they won't even sniff the playoffs.'valence said:I think there is about a 5% chance that he ends up in Arizona. I really don't think they can give up on Kolb after 1 year. Do you think they can admit that the Kolb signing was a mistake only one year out with no real off-season to work with him? I don't.
Thanks a ton bro1ncos! I appreciate the effort...as well as the efforts of others (jeter23, renesauz, GoBW, Reaper, Bloom, etc.) that have helped out along the way.This has got to be the most pleasant and relaxing message board survivor I've ever done! This is my 15th survivor since I started in '05 and only my 3rd WSL draft. I am enjoying it immensely.On top of all that giddiness, a lot of the teams look really strong as far as currently projected starters go. I liked my start and felt confident early.....now, not so much. That competitiveness between all these excellent drafters is what keeps bringing me back.....even though I've never finished higher than 4th (twice.) I am humbled by all of you and I learn so much from everyone each year I participate.Thanks All.eta: A special thanks to BnB and Twilight for their efforts as well.PM sent to GoBW since it sounds like he has lists for the next couple picks.Can someone pm?
I'M GOOD EITHER WAYLooking for feedback, we'll go with the majority of the votes here by noon tomorrow. In the sign up thread I said the clock would be adjusted to keep these drafts in a four week timeframe. We start week 5 in a couple of days. Here's what I'm doing in league 3 since they can/should get done by the weekend.Clock schedule for the rest of the draft...Rd 18 to be completed by midnite Tue, if not clocks cut in halfRd 19 to be completed by midnite Wed, if not clocks cut in half (or cut in half again)Rd 20 to be completed by midnite Thur, if not clocks cut in half (or cut in half again)All picks due 24 hours for the final pick or the last clock expiration.Do you guys want the same type of schedule for this draft or are you ok with it rolling into next week?
I am fine with either way.Looking for feedback, we'll go with the majority of the votes here by noon tomorrow. In the sign up thread I said the clock would be adjusted to keep these drafts in a four week timeframe. We start week 5 in a couple of days. Here's what I'm doing in league 3 since they can/should get done by the weekend.Clock schedule for the rest of the draft...Rd 18 to be completed by midnite Tue, if not clocks cut in halfRd 19 to be completed by midnite Wed, if not clocks cut in half (or cut in half again)Rd 20 to be completed by midnite Thur, if not clocks cut in half (or cut in half again)All picks due 24 hours for the final pick or the last clock expiration.Do you guys want the same type of schedule for this draft or are you ok with it rolling into next week?
Starting Saturday I'm going to be traveling and at Disney.....I'll do my best either way but, I'd vote to push it along - not sure what happened here and how WSL1 lapped us.Looking for feedback, we'll go with the majority of the votes here by noon tomorrow. In the sign up thread I said the clock would be adjusted to keep these drafts in a four week timeframe. We start week 5 in a couple of days. Here's what I'm doing in league 3 since they can/should get done by the weekend.Clock schedule for the rest of the draft...Rd 18 to be completed by midnite Tue, if not clocks cut in halfRd 19 to be completed by midnite Wed, if not clocks cut in half (or cut in half again)Rd 20 to be completed by midnite Thur, if not clocks cut in half (or cut in half again)All picks due 24 hours for the final pick or the last clock expiration.Do you guys want the same type of schedule for this draft or are you ok with it rolling into next week?