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Jene was going through the list on Twitter earlier of players who have had same injury. It's not a pretty list.Have any NFL players come back from this and been roughly the same? I cant think of any.
Jene was going through the list on Twitter earlier of players who have had same injury. It's not a pretty list.Have any NFL players come back from this and been roughly the same? I cant think of any.
A 2nd rounder is about the most i think you could expect.Andrew74 said:What are dynasty owners doing? What would you take for him now? I'm hoping I can move him on his name value (what's left of it, thanks Seattle) this offseason to someone who just sees "knee injury."
Probably true. I think he's a hold. Yeah, its a devastating injury.. but its Jimmy. I'd prefer 70% of him on a more lucrative offense to tell the truth.A 2nd rounder is about the most i think you could expect.Andrew74 said:What are dynasty owners doing? What would you take for him now? I'm hoping I can move him on his name value (what's left of it, thanks Seattle) this offseason to someone who just sees "knee injury."
Seahawks coach Pete Carroll said Jimmy Graham (knee) should be recovered in time for the 2016 season.
As we learned with Victor Cruz, a torn patellar tendon is among the worst injuries an athlete can suffer. Graham is facing a tough recovery process that should last well into training camp. Even if he gets back in time for Week 1, Graham is unlikely to be as effective coming off the devastating injury. Graham is facing an uphill climb to be a productive player in 2016.
Source: Bob Condotta on Twitter
Nov 30 - 1:03 PM
I always think of Ryan Williams myself.Brutal. Players do not come back from this. Victor Cruz is the poster boy for this injury. I will be trading him come the off season... and be happy with whatever I get.
Guys have been coming back from ACL's for a long time, though. It's just that recently it's become even more of a sure thing and the recovery time has shrunk. When someone comes back from this it will basically be the first time.It wasn't too long ago that an ACL tear was the death of guys.
Who known when the medical world produces some new innovative treatment for this.
I wouldnt sell Graham for peanuts.
I also wouldnt give up more than peanuts to get him
That's incorrect.Guys have been coming back from ACL's for a long time, though. It's just that recently it's become even more of a sure thing and the recovery time has shrunk. When someone comes back from this it will basically be the first time.It wasn't too long ago that an ACL tear was the death of guys.
Who known when the medical world produces some new innovative treatment for this.
I wouldnt sell Graham for peanuts.
I also wouldnt give up more than peanuts to get him
CONCLUSIONatellar tendon ruptures can occur in otherwise healthy professional football players without antecedent symptoms or predisposing factors. The most common mechanism of injury is eccentric overload. Close attention should be paid to stability examination of the knee given the not uncommon occurrence of concomitant ACL injury. Although this is usually a season-ending injury when it occurs in isolation, acute surgical repair generally produces good functional results and allows for return to play the following season. Players chosen earlier in the draft are more likely to return to play.
Give us some names.That's incorrect.Guys have been coming back from ACL's for a long time, though. It's just that recently it's become even more of a sure thing and the recovery time has shrunk. When someone comes back from this it will basically be the first time.It wasn't too long ago that an ACL tear was the death of guys.
Who known when the medical world produces some new innovative treatment for this.
I wouldnt sell Graham for peanuts.
I also wouldnt give up more than peanuts to get him
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/21813442
CONCLUSION:
Patellar tendon ruptures can occur in otherwise healthy professional football players without antecedent symptoms or predisposing factors. The most common mechanism of injury is eccentric overload. Close attention should be paid to stability examination of the knee given the not uncommon occurrence of concomitant ACL injury. Although this is usually a season-ending injury when it occurs in isolation, acute surgical repair generally produces good functional results and allows for return to play the following season. Players chosen earlier in the draft are more likely to return to play.
Seahawks coach Pete Carroll "absolutely" expects Jimmy Graham (patellar tendon) to be ready for Week 1.
Crazily, Carroll said Graham is ahead of Thomas Rawls. Graham was hurt before Rawls, and at least at the time, suffered what was believed to be a far more serious injury. Graham will be babied through camp, undoubtedly sitting out the preseason, but could perhaps end up a discounted TE1 because of the severely diminished expectations.
Source: John Boyle on Twitter
Jun 16 - 5:20 PM
His adp is 128 on one site. 10.6 on another. On each he is the 12th TE or last starting TE in a 12 team league.Really down on him. Getting up in age, didn't look like they were using him 'right' in Seattle and coming off a major injury. I am sure plenty of people will draft him higher than they ought to based on his name. For me- no interest because I doubt he will still be there when I would even begin thinking of taking him.
If you have him, I would seek to trade him away and hope someone falls in love with the name to give you more than he is worth.
I am surprised to see that ADP. I really thought it would be higher, which I suppose it could get ther once camps open and if we start hearing he is "on course" to be ready for Week 1. Once drafting starts in earnest, I think it would go up in that scenario. I would pass on him, also, for my input on it.His adp is 128 on one site. 10.6 on another. On each he is the 12th TE or last starting TE in a 12 team league.
When I read this I thought you meant that he'd be going high in drafts as in previous years. Is that the case? Does round 10 make him hmmmm for you?
Jimmy Graham says he's dropped 15 pounds since last season and is down to 260.
Graham also said the rehab process he underwent following last year's ruptured patellar tendon "is twice as hard as practices." Graham's Combine weigh-in was 6-foot-6, 260, so he's back at his playing weight coming out of college. While it's certainly good news that Graham was removed from the active/PUP list on Wednesday, we remain skeptical of his fantasy impact this year.
Source: Liz Mathews on Twitter
Aug 10 - 8:04 PM
me too unless he falls so very far that its a WR6/7 pick, or take a chance on Jimmy ...... an ACL is one thing, the patella tendon is quite anotherMy take on this year is I'm not going to touch him at all for FF.
Agree with this, especially because you didn't even mention this year's breakout player, Lockett.My take on this year is I'm not going to touch him at all for FF. I think with the breakout of Baldwin, emergence of Rawls, return of Paul Richardson, and re-signing of Kearse the team just doesn't need to focus on getting the ball to Graham in year one of his recovery.
Coach Pete Carroll said Jimmy Graham's (knee) Week 1 status will be determined late next week.
"Jimmy has been practicing full-go," Carroll said. "We’ll just keep taking it day-to-day." This conflicts with an earlier report that Graham has been limited to individual drills in practice. Graham is going to miss the entire preseason, but he's starting to trend in the right direction. He remains questionable for Week 1.
Source: seahawks.com
We did this sometime earlier in this thread or another.Give us some names.
team KDR22 in the #3 spot today? I liked your draft.Took him in the 10th round of an FPC draft. I think at this point where he has dropped he is value. Locally a lot of good things are being said about his recovery.
Wasn't me....this was last week.team KDR22 in the #3 spot today? I liked your draft.
Tell me more please. This thread is too doctor-yTook him in the 10th round of an FPC draft. I think at this point where he has dropped he is value. Locally a lot of good things are being said about his recovery.
Pete has been talking more positive than normal about him and I listen to local radio every day all day. They broadcast from practice and the opinion is he looks great. Lost 15 points to put less pressure on the knee and be faster. My suspicion and (others in the media) is the hawks have given up using him as an in-line TE (like they were last year) and will use him more out wide like the saints did. He sucks at blocking and they saw that last year. Some in the media feel he will be back week 3 or 4 while others are saying week 1. Pete himself said yesterday next week will determine if he plays. Apparently before the last preseason game in warmups (against air) he was moving great. One local radio/former QB Brock Huard was gushing about how he looked. While Brock is a bit of a homer he normally doesn't go that far out of his way to talk like that.Tell me more please. This thread is too doctor-y
The Seattle Times' Bob Condotta said "it’s still uncertain" if Jimmy Graham (knee) will play Week 1.
NFL Network's Ian Rapoport reported over the weekend Graham was "no sure thing" to play Week 1 despite coach Pete Carroll saying he has been a "full-go" in practice. Even if Graham does play, he will likely play limited snaps in his first game action since tearing his patellar tendon last November. He is not worth using even if he is active.
Source: Seattle Times
Seahawks coach Pete Carroll said the team is "going one day at a time" with Jimmy Graham (knee).
"I have no expectations that he’s going to play this week," Carroll continued. "I’m just counting on him coming out and having a really good day Wednesday, Thursday and Friday and then we’ll see what happens from there." ESPN's Sheil Kapadia believes Luke Willson will get the start this week, indicating Graham will either sit out or play a limited role. Even if he suits up, Graham is not going to see enough targets to be a usable fantasy player.
Source: Seattle Times
Sep 6 - 8:39 AM