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Joey Gallo coming up.
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*** OFFICIAL *** Prospects and Mid-Season Callup Thread (1 Viewer)
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RnR
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Captain Hook just bought a subscription to Ancestry.com to investigate. Should have a full report by Friday.
Doctor Detroit
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Joe Ross, who is the younger brother of Tyson, pitched pretty well in his major league debut today (5IP, 6H, 3ER, 4Ks, 0BB). Fastball at 94, lots of sliders, and good control. Not overpowering stuff but it's sharp and he seems to have a lot of confidence in being able to put the pitch where he wants it. He shook Ramos off a few times with runners on base, so it didn't seem like he was afraid of the tall buildings. Maybe not a mixed league add but he's worth watching as long as Strasburg and Fister are on the shelf.
pollardsvision
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Correa time
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I guess Houston is serious, super two deadline is just two weeks away.
Lowrie is out another month so if Correa hits, he's probably up to stay. Lowrie can platoon with Valbuena at 3B, Villar and Marwin Gonzalez are roster filler at best.
Long Ball Larry
Footballguy
Reading starting to pop for the Phils. Just 9 games in AA, but Crawford with an OPS of .982 and more walks than strikeouts.
Last year's first-round pick, pitcher Aaron Nola has a 1.76 ERA in 11 starts this year with a WHIP under 1. Probably will never be a big K guy but is at about 7.5 per 9 right now and has really good command.
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Good Posting Judge
Footballguy
Schwarber is a rake monster.
Don Quixote
Footballguy
Buxton coming up.
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Dude was balls deep today. Really good control and nothing seems to bother him.
Don Quixote
Footballguy
He was pretty solid today. Fister should be back next week though; not sure if they send Ross back down or Roark back to the bullpen.
Long Ball Larry
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Good Posting Judge
Footballguy
There are no prospects left. Everyone in the majors now.
MAC_32
Footballguy
ok, NOW there are none left.
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MAC_32
Footballguy
Schwarber, but I'm reading cameo only. If he comes out taking though...
Doctor Detroit
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Yeah he's coming up for 6 days to DH. Matz is on the way for sure now that Gee got DFA'd. Mets just trying to guess the Super Two which is next week at some point (20-23).
Good Posting Judge
Footballguy
DH'ing and then heading to AAA after this week, but I think there's a good chance that he blows up that plan and they decide to live with him in LF. Can't be worse in the OF than Hanley, right?
MAC_32
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They're probably approaching this a lot like the Rangers did with Gallo. It's only short term, unless...
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Long Ball Larry
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Mondesi is furthest away of that group but he easily has the highest ceiling IMO. I think the other two are six of one, and half dozen of the other.
Arcia, Adames, Barreto, Turner and Anderson all interest me more.
When looking at these guys I think one important thing to consider is how likely these guys will stick at SS. Mondesi, Barreto, Arcia, and Adames all seem to have the tools with Mondesi and Arcia being defensive specialists. Rosario will stick at SS also, but his hit tool is questionable.
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Spartans Rule
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I like Mateo for fantasy purposes just because of the crazy speed, although he doesn't offer much else. Mondesi has never put up great minor league numbers but he's also been super young at every level. He has maybe the most upside.
Bobcat10
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Thanks fellas. I named those 3 only because I have an owner interested in Plouffe who is on the bench for me most days. I could call up Piscotty for backup and trade Plouffe for one of these guys and maybe a pick. I read good things about all 3. Time to dig a little more and see what happens with the trade.
Long Ball Larry
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Eephus
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It's a longshot that any 2015 draftees make any impact this season. It was generally considered to be a down year for the draft but it'll take 4-5 years for that to play out.
I think college arms are the most likely to get called up, especially those on teams that hope to contend. James Kaprelian could be called up by the Yankees but they seem more likely to add an arm by other means. Dillon Tate in Texas could follow the Sale/Finnegan route of being a rookie reliever before being stretched out to start later.
Most of the international FAs are very young and a couple of years away. Maeda, Olivera and the three Koreans are the obvious exceptions. Your guess is as good as mine about what happens to the Gourriel brothers.
I think college arms are the most likely to get called up, especially those on teams that hope to contend. James Kaprelian could be called up by the Yankees but they seem more likely to add an arm by other means. Dillon Tate in Texas could follow the Sale/Finnegan route of being a rookie reliever before being stretched out to start later.
Most of the international FAs are very young and a couple of years away. Maeda, Olivera and the three Koreans are the obvious exceptions. Your guess is as good as mine about what happens to the Gourriel brothers.
Bobcat10
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If you weren't worried if the guy gets to the majors in '16 (I'm fine with a 1-3 yr wait), which one or two or three (maybe rank your top 3) of this list would you take a stab on? Is there a fringe all star in this list? Think pretty standard points league.
Bobby Bradley - dude flat out crushed last year. the 1b prospect we've dreamed of?
Tapia - this guy seems to be all over the board, either love em or don't. Odd approach at the plate. Coors factor could help.
Honeywell - screwball master, TB org has good pitching development.
Mondesi - hit tool suspect but he's been promoted rapidly, always very young in his league. seen alcide comps.
Archie Bradley - the one here we should find out about this year. did getting smashed in the face really throw off his '15 to the point where he's not even top 100 on some lists?
Mallex - can get on base and swipe bags with his 80 speed. can he do enough for a points league?
Renfroe - i'm not a fan, but tell me if you are.
DJ Peterson - totally totally done? can he bounce back from ugly '15?
Vogelbach - can he find his way to the AL?
Bobby Bradley - dude flat out crushed last year. the 1b prospect we've dreamed of?
Tapia - this guy seems to be all over the board, either love em or don't. Odd approach at the plate. Coors factor could help.
Honeywell - screwball master, TB org has good pitching development.
Mondesi - hit tool suspect but he's been promoted rapidly, always very young in his league. seen alcide comps.
Archie Bradley - the one here we should find out about this year. did getting smashed in the face really throw off his '15 to the point where he's not even top 100 on some lists?
Mallex - can get on base and swipe bags with his 80 speed. can he do enough for a points league?
Renfroe - i'm not a fan, but tell me if you are.
DJ Peterson - totally totally done? can he bounce back from ugly '15?
Vogelbach - can he find his way to the AL?
Eephus
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I'm not high on either Bradley although I held both briefly in leagues last year.
Bobby's 27 HR in low A is tempered by a 32% SO rate. His whiff rates aren't as extreme as someone like Joey Gallo (if there is someone like Joey Gallo) but neither is his power. Gallo hit 40 when he was 19. This is a huge year for Bobby to establish positive trends in both stats. If he can do that and get advanced to AA by September, then we're in business. He's a guy worth watching early though.
Archie's command continues to be his achilles heel. It kills his WHIP and his ability to pitch deep for potential Ws. His K strikeout rate will be better than 5.8 SO/9 but his gaudy numbers from A ball are distant memories. He's given up 4.5 BB/9 this spring so getting hit in the face last year didn't fix his control problems. Bradley, Bauer and Skaggs are cautionary tales about investing too heavily in pitching prospects. TINSTAAPP.
Bobby's 27 HR in low A is tempered by a 32% SO rate. His whiff rates aren't as extreme as someone like Joey Gallo (if there is someone like Joey Gallo) but neither is his power. Gallo hit 40 when he was 19. This is a huge year for Bobby to establish positive trends in both stats. If he can do that and get advanced to AA by September, then we're in business. He's a guy worth watching early though.
Archie's command continues to be his achilles heel. It kills his WHIP and his ability to pitch deep for potential Ws. His K strikeout rate will be better than 5.8 SO/9 but his gaudy numbers from A ball are distant memories. He's given up 4.5 BB/9 this spring so getting hit in the face last year didn't fix his control problems. Bradley, Bauer and Skaggs are cautionary tales about investing too heavily in pitching prospects. TINSTAAPP.
HellToupee
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A little tidbit on Bobby Bradley that I find fascinating
His 27 home runs were 10 more than any other player in the Midwest League, a league that favors pitching. Plus, he did it all as the fourth youngest full-time player in the league. The great season earned Bradley a promotion in September to the Carolina League.
At 6-foot-1 and 225 pounds, Bradley combines strength and plenty of leverage to profile plus future power. The power clearly showed up in Low-A and given his age, there is a level of comfort that he can reach that potential. His approach is very sound with good strike zone awareness as was evidence by his 11% walk rate. Given the leverage in his swing, he will strikeout a lot with an anticipated contact rate in the low 70’s. He’s a below-average runner, so speed will not be part of his game.
His 27 home runs were 10 more than any other player in the Midwest League, a league that favors pitching. Plus, he did it all as the fourth youngest full-time player in the league. The great season earned Bradley a promotion in September to the Carolina League.
At 6-foot-1 and 225 pounds, Bradley combines strength and plenty of leverage to profile plus future power. The power clearly showed up in Low-A and given his age, there is a level of comfort that he can reach that potential. His approach is very sound with good strike zone awareness as was evidence by his 11% walk rate. Given the leverage in his swing, he will strikeout a lot with an anticipated contact rate in the low 70’s. He’s a below-average runner, so speed will not be part of his game.
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Eephus
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Mallex has to hit the ball harder. His patient approach at the plate served him well in the low minors, but MLB pitchers aren't going to walk a guy with a sub-.100 ISO very often, and while he'll still beat out his share of infield hits he's not going to post a .400 BABIP in the bigs. The walk rate and BABIP already dropped sharply when he got to AAA last season.Bobcat10 said:
Mallex did slug .808 in spring training so that's a good sign. Need to see that carry over to games that count. He may be a prime candidate for an "added 15 pounds of muscle" offseason in the near future.
Long Ball Larry
Footballguy
Is Archie Bradley going to make it?
MAC_32
Footballguy
Some fluff, but also some perspective on Renfroe
http://www.sandiegouniontribune.com/news/2016/mar/04/padres-prospect-hunter-renfroe-quieter-approach/2/?#article-copy
I had quit him, but put him back on my watch list. His power potential doesn't come around often.
http://www.sandiegouniontribune.com/news/2016/mar/04/padres-prospect-hunter-renfroe-quieter-approach/2/?#article-copy
I had quit him, but put him back on my watch list. His power potential doesn't come around often.
Bobcat10
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Here's an interesting list from a fantasy perspective (check out the primer article). It even has a worldwide flavor and some HS kids..my leagues are only for MLB signed players, but it's still interesting to see them on here.
http://www.fantasypros.com/2016/01/top-400-worldwide-mlb-prospects/
Also, Eephus posted Ben Carsley's list in the other thread:
http://www.baseballprospectus.com/article.php?articleid=28729
And here is Bret Sayre's:
http://www.baseballprospectus.com/article.php?articleid=28437
http://www.fantasypros.com/2016/01/top-400-worldwide-mlb-prospects/
Also, Eephus posted Ben Carsley's list in the other thread:
http://www.baseballprospectus.com/article.php?articleid=28729
And here is Bret Sayre's:
http://www.baseballprospectus.com/article.php?articleid=28437
Eephus
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I didn't keep him for $1. He's already been sent down and is probably behind Collmenter if somebody falls out of the rotation. As mentioned above, he needs to improve his command before he's worthy of a roster slot.
ETA: the first list Bobcat10 posted still believes in Bradley at #33
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Long Ball Larry
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Yeah, I saw he got sent down last week and I was kind of disappointed. Wondering if he should just be written off altogether. Then next year become a post-hype sleeper.
Eephus
Footballguy
Reno is a tough place to pitch. His overall AAA numbers probably aren't going to be outstanding but if he can put up a >2.5 K/BB ratio there, I'll consider stashing him.
Bobcat10
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That was actually one of the first things I noticed. No good news seems to be coming out of ST for him.I didn't keep him for $1. He's already been sent down and is probably behind Collmenter if somebody falls out of the rotation. As mentioned above, he needs to improve his command before he's worthy of a roster slot.
ETA: the first list Bobcat10 posted still believes in Bradley at #33
Just to update my situation, I took the flier on Mondesi. Bobby Bradley was sorta pulled from the trade talks, and that same dude wanted to keep Renfroe, so I'd have had to pay a round more for Tapia or go for Mondesi or Honeywell. Chose Mondesi.
Mallex and DJ Peterson are actually my guys, and barring another trade, my last minor league keeper will be one of them or John Lamb. Leaning Mallex or Lamb because I can stash them as minors and call them up if they would benefit my team this year. Probably not keepers going forward, but I still have to draft 4 minors (keep 7, roster 11). I just didn't want to keep them both.
Eephus
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Mondesi's biggest claim to fame has been his age relative to his MiLB level. That's all well and good if there's something to go along with it. Even then, that's sometimes not enough. It has little to do with Mondesi but Andy Marte is the first guy I think of where youth relative to league was a significant component of his reputation as a prospect. I'm sure there are other examples that worked out better.
I'm curious to see if the Royals have Mondesi repeat AA or push him up to Omaha. Either way, he needs to start showing some fantasy relevant production. I think he'll be a big leaguer for sure but right now, it's as likely to be as a utilityman as a star.
I'm curious to see if the Royals have Mondesi repeat AA or push him up to Omaha. Either way, he needs to start showing some fantasy relevant production. I think he'll be a big leaguer for sure but right now, it's as likely to be as a utilityman as a star.
Bobcat10
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Def aware of that risk. It's a flier for me so I'll take it. Maybe it will work out. All those guys have flags. I graduated 3 guys to our next level last year when I only thought 1 or 2 tops were going graduate. Unless a prospect is super human, they don't jump right up to where we keep our "major leaguers". A guy like Mondesi could provide value for 3 years after he reaches the bigs even if he never really becomes a true major league keeper.
Appreciate all the prospect talk, hopefully we can keep it going.
Appreciate all the prospect talk, hopefully we can keep it going.
Eephus
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Roster management involving prospects is an interesting dimension to dynasty and keeper formats. There are more prospects than stars with a new crop of the former arriving every year. There's a finite number of roster slots you can commit to minor leaguers, especially if you're trying to contend.
It's only natural to develop some attachment to young players you've watched since they were teenagers which makes it hard sometimes to dump them. The net result is tying up space on guys who won't contribute later. My current bete noire is Robert Stephenson I first considered dropping him in early 2014 when he was struggling in AA but I couldn't quit him. Now he's on the brink of the big leagues so I have to see what happens. I think he'll probably end up in the bullpen eventually but hope springs eternal
It's only natural to develop some attachment to young players you've watched since they were teenagers which makes it hard sometimes to dump them. The net result is tying up space on guys who won't contribute later. My current bete noire is Robert Stephenson I first considered dropping him in early 2014 when he was struggling in AA but I couldn't quit him. Now he's on the brink of the big leagues so I have to see what happens. I think he'll probably end up in the bullpen eventually but hope springs eternal
Bobcat10
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Yeah I think he's gotta be my 7th. He was all along but then I get into prospect hunting and like Eephus says I'm not really attached to him. Too much upside later this year that I can stash from the start in the minors with no obligation to call him up at any point. Maybe he helps over the course of the season.
Smack Tripper
Footballguy
Archie hasn't passed the eye test for me but maybe he would get a little bounceback ala Bauer out of that park
cheese
Footballguy
Brutal break for him to be out right now while he could be auditioning. When he comes back, so does everyone else and rotation is going to get crowded fast barring injury.MAC_32 said:
Even if he passes up the stop gaps the Reds signed he's easily behind Desclafani , iglesias, and homer. That means he has to hope Finnegan didn't cement a job or that BOTH Reed and Stephenson get sandbagged another year. I like Lamb, but the most like result is he gets lost in the shuffle.
