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RB Tevin Coleman, SF (2 Viewers)
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I didn't really say he would be the lead but i think 40-50 easily goes to breida....how the rest of it breaks down is anyone's guess
Mr. Peterson
Footballguy
I own Breida in all my dynasty leagues. Love that little guy. But I think he is going to be 3rd in that backfield if they keep everyone.
Breida is talented but I still believe McKinnon is more talented and would’ve had a much better season in that offense than Breida had he not gotten hurt.
I’m mad about this signing because I also own McKinnon and Coleman. Doubt they can offer fantasy relevance to all 3.
Breida is talented but I still believe McKinnon is more talented and would’ve had a much better season in that offense than Breida had he not gotten hurt.
I’m mad about this signing because I also own McKinnon and Coleman. Doubt they can offer fantasy relevance to all 3.
barackdhouse
Footballguy
Sure you did, but look I agree that 40-50 represents what we are talking about. Here is my thing, I think he is good enough, I just don't think the coaches want to do that. I think they want to have McKinnon be like Freeman and Coleman be like....Coleman. From the Atlanta days. But to your point, Breida is good enough and has excelled enough to get on the field. Will the coaches see it that way? IDK.
who knows, it certainly is all speculation at this poit. Breida may injure himself in the first week of preseason and Coleman or McKinnon may look unstoppable and run away with the job.
That being said, all things being equal this is an ugly backfield from a fantasy perspective.
barackdhouse
Footballguy
Definitely. If a clearer picture can emerge at some point, there are definitely PPR catches to go around there. And I like the direction the offense is headed.
bostonfred
Footballguy
49ers offensive skill position players include
Jimmy g/mullins
Kittle
Pettis
Goodwin
Breida
Mckinnon
Coleman
Juicechick
They may be thinking about using a ton of 2rb sets because who else do they have?
Someone will emerge as the guy to own in a highly productive offense for running backs. It might not be clear week 1 but these things tend to work themselves out.
The one thing i don't think is likely is that coleman emerges as the lead back. He was the "backup" with Shanahan before, was the backup afterwards, tried and failed as a starter this year and signed for backup money with the coach who used him as a backup. I'm not saying he won't get his share of touches, and he might be fantasy relevant as the but he's not likely to be their rb1. So to me, this is time to buy shares of breida and McKinnon. If someone emerges as the clear rb1 they could have several nice years.
Jimmy g/mullins
Kittle
Pettis
Goodwin
Breida
Mckinnon
Coleman
Juicechick
They may be thinking about using a ton of 2rb sets because who else do they have?
Someone will emerge as the guy to own in a highly productive offense for running backs. It might not be clear week 1 but these things tend to work themselves out.
The one thing i don't think is likely is that coleman emerges as the lead back. He was the "backup" with Shanahan before, was the backup afterwards, tried and failed as a starter this year and signed for backup money with the coach who used him as a backup. I'm not saying he won't get his share of touches, and he might be fantasy relevant as the but he's not likely to be their rb1. So to me, this is time to buy shares of breida and McKinnon. If someone emerges as the clear rb1 they could have several nice years.
eNdblu
Footballguy
Spotrac @spotrac
Tevin Coleman’s 2 year $8.5M deal w/ the #Niners is essentially a 1 year $3.6M contract. He gets $3.25M guaranteed, all in 2019 after which SF can release him with no dead cap hit. Full Breakdown: bit.ly/2Ci8tJ2
Alex P Keaton
Footballguy
RBs are a dime a dozen...they can get someone in the 3rd or 4th that will be just as productive
ILUVBEER99
Footballguy
rockaction
Footballguy
Yeah. The market for Coleman couldn't have been that bad.
Who's his agent?
Oh, yeah, Le'Veon's.
Alex P Keaton
Footballguy
bostonfred
Footballguy
trader jake
Footballguy
They won't have to limit Breida. His body limits him....seemingly each week. The talent is there, but he's just not built to withstand the physical rigors of the NFL.killface said:
the lone star
Footballguy
I've read that he's actually only 5'11
http://www.nfl.com/draft/2011/profiles/tevin-coleman?id=2552453
With that said, I don't think he will be that great at short-yardage stuff. Maybe I'm wrong, but he's obviously a speed back that is at his best when he can use his long strides. He has some power, sure, but he has a bad tendency to run into his own OL, get tripped up behind the LOS, and to fall down on the first hit. And that's not even considering his injury issues. I'd keep an eye on him for sure, but I still like Breida the most in this backfield. I hope I'm wrong though, since I drafted Tevin in the rookie draft of one of my dynasty leagues.
http://www.nfl.com/draft/2011/profiles/tevin-coleman?id=2552453
With that said, I don't think he will be that great at short-yardage stuff. Maybe I'm wrong, but he's obviously a speed back that is at his best when he can use his long strides. He has some power, sure, but he has a bad tendency to run into his own OL, get tripped up behind the LOS, and to fall down on the first hit. And that's not even considering his injury issues. I'd keep an eye on him for sure, but I still like Breida the most in this backfield. I hope I'm wrong though, since I drafted Tevin in the rookie draft of one of my dynasty leagues.
steelers1080
Footballguy
Where would you slot Coleman if he was available in the rookie draft? I have him around pick 16/17, just after Darrell Henderson and Hakeem Butler, but just ahead of Irv Smith, Devin Singletary, and Damien Harris.
skinfanjon
Footballguy
I tried adding Tevin + a 5th round pick in several offers to various teams for a late 3 early 4 in my draft a couple weeks ago, no dice.
Snorkelson
Footballguy
Pretend for a moment that the 49ers didn’t pay McKinnon last year. They had a few young guys who looked good in breida and Wilson, but they sign Coleman, who just played for the head coach when he was a coordinator. Wouldn’t we all be salivating? Wonder if Coleman is being undervalued.
bostonfred
Footballguy
But they did pay McKinnon. They paid him high end rb1 money. And when he got hurt, breida played at a high level.
So the fact is that they are still paying McKinnon rb1 money, and they still have last year's rb1.
Meanwhile, coleman didn't get snapped up in the first wave of free agency the way fantasy football people had expected.
SF signed the rb who used to be a backup for Shanahan in atlanta and paid him backup money, and are talking about lining him up as a receiver.
He'll definitely have a role, i just don't see him as the rb1.
ILUVBEER99
Footballguy
Last 3 seasons Tevin averaged 12 touches per game/193 per 16 games.
That was with a stud Devonte Freeman playing in front of him for most of those games.
In SF there is no bell-cow ahead of him. I think 13-15 touches a game is realistic. Solid RB2/3-Flex play for 2019.
That was with a stud Devonte Freeman playing in front of him for most of those games.
In SF there is no bell-cow ahead of him. I think 13-15 touches a game is realistic. Solid RB2/3-Flex play for 2019.
rockaction
Footballguy
Still think that they got him for so cheap he may very well be mired in a committee approach at best.
32 Counter Pass
Footballguy
I am starting to think Coleman represents a nice return on his current ADP.
Ilov80s
Footballguy
I agree- in doing mocks he always seems like a good value but I hate to ever pull the trigger.
HULLOBUDMAN
Footballguy
I swear I saw Breida getting checked for a concussion but not seeing it anywhere now. Guessing good to go?
That was the early report but then I heard that he was pulled out for dehydration. That seems to make more sense as he entered the game afterwards.
Mystery Achiever
Footballguy
He has a high ankle sprain per Shanahan. That's 6+ weeks, IIRC?
I had four injuries in one league so may need the space in that case. :unintentional rhyming:
I had four injuries in one league so may need the space in that case. :unintentional rhyming:
VikingFrog
Footballguy
This guy is sitting in free agency asking to be picked up. I haven’t watched enough niners football to know, but they seem to be pretty committee driven looking at stats.
Does Coleman get a big role back when he returns. This seemed to bring him here for that very reason. Although I’m not sure I ever viewed Coleman as a true nfl starting running back. He always seemed to perform better in a timeshare in Atlanta.
Does Coleman get a big role back when he returns. This seemed to bring him here for that very reason. Although I’m not sure I ever viewed Coleman as a true nfl starting running back. He always seemed to perform better in a timeshare in Atlanta.
oddsbodkins
Footballguy
Any Shanahan RB is worthwhile especially Coleman for the $$$ you state. Breida will eventually get hurt, Mostert has the dropsies and Wilson isn't a factor. I've been holding for weeks.
The guy that has all four of SF's rushing TDs is probably at least a little factor.
Steelers4Life
Footballguy
Not if Wilson ends up inactive on gamedays and Coleman takes on the goal-line role. Doubtful they keep all 4 RBs active on gamedays, and Wilson's limited role seems to be the most likely to be the one left out.
If Coleman gets 50-60% of the RB touches on that offense plus GL carries, that's a valuable piece.
Team Smokin'
Footballguy
Could be an ultimate buy low?
oddsbodkins
Footballguy
Wilson being inactive is certainly plausible.
Coleman getting 50%+ of the RB touches doesn't seem very likely (IMO).
Steelers4Life
Footballguy
Well, maybe, maybe not. Coleman entered the year as the starter, and even with him out, Breida and Mostert basically split carries and lost goal-line work. That tells me Coleman may have factored heavily into their plans.
I think it's very plausible to think Coleman would get roughly 50% of the work with Breida and occasionally Mostert filling in for series, but I don't see that offense splitting work up evenly between all three of them AND keeping a goal-line back active too. If Coleman get GL carries (and that's distinctly possible since Shananan didn't trust Breida or Mostert with that role in his absense), there's a potential for strong RB2 value there. Well worth a shot right now IMO.
oddsbodkins
Footballguy
https://twitter.com/keianamartintv/status/1179843071829106688?s=21
Well, well, well... this certainly changes things. To the bench, Joe Mixon!*
*maybe
Well, well, well... this certainly changes things. To the bench, Joe Mixon!*
*maybe
