cr8f said:
I don't claim to be a pro scout or to be able to predict the future, but in MHO this kid will never be more than a return man/screen gadget play guy. His inability to catch passes down the field will always limit him. How many Packers fan want to see a guy dropping passes like Finley did, and they always were critical third downs, I sure don't and Finley was a physical beast for his position. I am not saying a player can't change, but think of the players that come out of college that couldn't catch, how many suddenly could in the NFL? Not many, unless you are a natural hands catcher, it is hard to change, that has been proven over the years. No freggin way this guy challenges Adams, Adams is a natural receiver and he snatches the ball, I think it highly unlikely he even challenges Janis, who is bigger and faster and can catch. I will however happily come back and eat my words if this kid ever proves he can catch with any consistency, and I don't mean screens. I hated this pick when happened and it will take a lot to ever make me think it was a good pick, we are so deep at wr, a return man in the third makes no sense, espcially since there were better return men still on the board.
Again, please don't take my word for it, go watch video on this kid, not highlight reels but game video and watch how he struggles to catch the ball, constantly fighting passes, allowing the ball to get on his body. Of all tracked college players he had the highest drop percentage, maybe he can be the rare player that somehow gets better. I personally am not holding my breath though, hopefully he is a beast of a return man though, that will make things better.
Well Ted Thompson traded up to get him and I think his plan may be a returner and someone to get the ball in the backfield like they used Randall Cobb in the past.Both Hill and this guy have had a lot of negatives associated with them but I'll take TT and Sean Payton's evaluation over anyone here. I think they have plans that aren't evident to us yet. While he dropped passes he had good YAC skills and again think that have plans we won't see until TC at least.
I don't see him challenging Adams or Janis but doing things out of the backfield or close to the LOS.
Give it a little time. Yesterday he caught the ball pretty well.
Certainly, I don't expect much as a rookie, I just don't see him ever challenging a pure wr like Adams. Trust me I hope I am 100% off and I agree with you, I trust that any NFL evaluator knows more than me.
I don't either. I took him in the 7th round of out rookie draft, but think the team likes his versatility and has plans for him.
I'm just waiting to see how they use him. I don't see him vying for the #3 WR. I think they may want to use him as a returner and maybe how Percy Harvin was used in Minny. One scout called him a bigger Randall Cobb. Lining up in the backfield and bubble screens may be the plan.
Time will tell.
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Green Bay — The Green Bay Packers went with a proven top-notch returner in the third round when they drafted Ty Montgomery out of Stanford on Friday night, but they're banking on him being a bigger version of Randall Cobb who can line up anywhere on the field.
Montgomery returned kickoffs all four seasons at Stanford, averaging 27.4 yards with three touchdowns.
He didn't return punts until 2014 but excelled there, too, with a 19.8 average (12 returns) and two TDs.
"He's a very strong runner, very instinctive, has good quickness," said Packers general manager Ted Thompson.
Montgomery is also a receiver. The 6-foot, 215-pound senior from Dallas caught 172 passes for 2,125 (12.5) and 15 TDs and rushed 39 times for 334 (8.6) and four scores in his career.
The Packers said poor quarterback play was the reason his numbers dropped to 61 receptions for 604 yards and three receiving touchdowns last year. He also rushed 23 times for 144 yards and one touchdown.
"I don't think that there's anything that I did wrong," said Montgomery. "I caught a lot more balls behind the line of scrimmage and near the line of scrimmage and had to get yards after the catch, make more guys miss, not make as many plays down field."
Thompson has not shied away from taking receivers high in his drafts.
"Since I've been here we've had Brett Favre playing quarterback or Aaron Rodgers, so you like to get them as many people to throw to as you can," said Thompson.
But Packers West Regional scout Sam Seale likened Montgomery to Cobb often — only bigger. He has scouted Montgomery since he was a freshman — Seale's son attends Stanford — and has seen most of his games.
"When you look at him, he's much bigger. I think he's faster than the guy we had last year, returning kicks. I think he's more explosive," said Seale. "When he touches the ball, he hits the hole....I like the kid. He's explosive, he's big. And I think it would give Randall a break. For me personally I think he's a bigger Randall."