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QB Lamar Jackson, BAL (4 Viewers)
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massraider
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Weddle:
He's been great. Obviously you know why we took him," Weddle said. "He's as talented of a player that I've seen coming into my 12th year.
He's been great. Obviously you know why we took him," Weddle said. "He's as talented of a player that I've seen coming into my 12th year.
Bronco Billy
Footballguy
Flacco and Jackson on the field at the same time? It was my understanding that Jackson would only play QB. So unless both guys are going to simultaneously take the snap from center (kind of a twist on the read option?), I guess Flacco would line up at....at what exactly? H Back? TE?
massraider
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Yeah they should have a formal plan for both on the field at the same time, and share the entire thing with the media.
Happily snagged him at 2.10 in a 14-teamer. Figured the upside was too much to ignore.
metoo
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JohnnyU
Footballguy
You obviously haven't seen Jackson play very much in college. People slept on Watson as well. I'd much rather have Jackson over the likes of Darnold and probably Rosen as well.
Dr. Octopus
Footballguy
I think what he's saying is they're coming up with plays to take advantage of his athletic skills for the time where Flacco is still under center. I think the ultimate plan was for him to potentially be the team's starting QB.
Andy Dufresne
Footballguy
Putting Jackson on the field with Flacco means they go from zero to one QB on the field.
JohnnyU
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Ilov80s
Footballguy
Waldman had him rated as the top pocket passer in the draft. He ran an actual NFL offense in college.
Biabreakable
Footballguy
Wait a minute. Scroll back and read the thread. Maybe this would change your perspective, maybe it won't. But Lamar Jackson ran a Coryell offense in Loisville with Bobby Petrino who has coached QB for the Jaguars and was a head coach of the Falcons. Jackson doesn't need simplified reads to one side of the field. He throws the deep out well. The NFL will be struggling to find answers for him.
Not even close. I've seen several people make this assumption, and it's very baseless. If anything, Lamar is like Vick, but arguably faster and more athletic and a better passer.
Andy Dufresne
Footballguy
Someone mentioned Randall Cunningham earlier. I think Jackson is a blend of him and Vick.
The Man With No Name
Footballguy
Hope you're right.
Like others have said, Jackson could be a star or bust along with the other rookie Qb's. We won't know for awhile but some will prove themselves one way earlier than others.
College isn't The NFL. Mental makeup can make or brake a pro. Hopefully Jackson has IT.
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Wise Old Owl
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I really think the most important thing with this guy will be him staying healthy. If I was the Ravens I would be working on sliding form and looking at Russell Wilson tape to see how he avoids taking the big hits that catch up with other mobile qbs. Even guys like Mariota and Wentz who are more typical pocket passers get nicked up or worse from taking big hits while scrambling.
Ilov80s
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metoo
Footballguy
Chaka
Footballguy
I always worry about QBs who complete under 60% in college. Accuracy requires touch and touch seems like one of the more difficult skills to learn/improve.
Jackson seems to have amazing skills but he doesn't have Cam Newton's freakish size (or even McNabb, McNair size) and relying on Vick/RGIII like quicks/speed at the QB position seems risky.
Hoping for Vick seems nice but he had maybe three top finishes in 13 seasons and played 16 games once (15 games 3 x). Defend him however you want but he was ultimately more sizzle than substance.
I would love to see Jackson become the next Steve Young but he has a lot to overcome.
Jackson seems to have amazing skills but he doesn't have Cam Newton's freakish size (or even McNabb, McNair size) and relying on Vick/RGIII like quicks/speed at the QB position seems risky.
Hoping for Vick seems nice but he had maybe three top finishes in 13 seasons and played 16 games once (15 games 3 x). Defend him however you want but he was ultimately more sizzle than substance.
I would love to see Jackson become the next Steve Young but he has a lot to overcome.
Ilov80s
Footballguy
If he is like RG3 or Vick, it won't be a stable career but the peaks will make him worth the investment. Jackson had more rushing yards than Saquon Barkley last year- if he is smart about protecting himself, he has the potential to run for 1000 yards in a season.
Chaka
Footballguy
Yup but he's got a slight frame, which doesn't make that level of action seem sustainable. Kids gotta stay behind the LoS as much as possible.
Ilov80s
Footballguy
He just has to be smart about when to run, getting out of bounds, sliding, etc. Once he is in the open field, he is going to be very dangerous anf the QB run is the most successful play in football.
Tau837
Footballguy
This is not really true. If it was, teams with QBs with running ability would call a lot of QB runs. But they don’t do that, because it is inevitable that doing so will result in injury to the QB.
Ilov80s
Footballguy
Many of the QB runs aren’t planned, they come when the play breaks down. However, mathematically the QB run is the most successful play in football- a podcast (JJ Zacharison I believe) broke it down and that was surprising to me.
Bronco Billy
Footballguy
That doesn’t surprise me. The D is scattered in coverage responsibilities and the running lanes are wide open. Not only that, but the QB gets to evaluate the field and choose whether to run or pick another option like throwing the ball out of bounds. It’s an optimal running situation. RBs don’t get that option when they run the ball.
Chaka
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Bojang0301
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Bojang0301
Omar4Heisman
Classical case of overanalyzing during the draft season. Even Vince Young and Tim Tebow had some nice fantasy stretches. If Lamar Jackson was named the starter tomorrow I think most would be hard pressed not to start him on his rushing prowess alone in week 1. Can’t believe how far he was falling just after the draft. Now Mayfield v Lamar long term, I think I still want Mayfield but that instant gratification with Jackson, I definitely get it.
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kutta
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Sebowski
Footballguy
I just went ahead and drafted them both. I wanted Lamar for sure so traded back from 1.10 to 2.3 to take him. Then grabbed Mayfield with my 2.10. It was coinflip between Mayfield and Rosen for me. I kind of with I went Rosen now since he's safer than Mayfield, and Lamar is my high upside risk guy. But I guess that's a different thread.... Go Lamar!
NeverEnough
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