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Are we talking superflex? I was assuming 1QB for this hypothetical. I disagree with both, but appreciate the answer all the same. I'm assuming the usual 5-7 would be Jacobs, Harry, Montgomery, Sanders, Metcalf, Hockenson, and AJ Brown.
I missed the SF part, if so. Add Haskins then.Are we talking superflex? I was assuming 1QB for this hypothetical. I disagree with both, but appreciate the answer all the same. I'm assuming the usual 5-7 would be Jacobs, Harry, Montgomery, Sanders, Metcalf, Hockenson, and AJ Brown.
P.S. Wasn't your rule of thumb to never draft rookie TEs?
I think we all would.
I agree and to add to this I had a league where someone kept posting that Robinson was available and I needed another fairly young WR. I was sitting on pick 11, thought about offering it, could not bring myself to do it for a player I'm not high on. Ended up drafting Deebo at 11 and Paris Campbell went 2.1.
1.5 seems reasonable to me. Glass half empty types will scoff at that price for such a short resume, and glass half full types, will see a guy who was an RB1 down the stretch, and received no real competition for carries this off season. The truth is probably somewhere in between.
His value is way too soft for a 1.5 type of pick...he could be easily replaced by this time next year
Its close, but I prefer Robinson. The uncertainty over what the Bengals offense will look like clinches it for me.
I'll take the guy who is WR1 for his team. Age difference is only 1 year.
Would you take ARob over Thielen or Diggs? Or Ridley, Godwin, Landry?
Only over Godwin and Landry. Never been a big Landry fan. Godwin is more a toss up.
Minnesota ranked 6th in pass attempts with 606. Cincinnati ranked 18th with 545. Chicago was 25th with 512. Atlanta was 5th with 617. Tampa... well, that will be very interesting with Arians in town.
Boyd’s numbers were steady last season, whether Green played or not. Even as the #2 in the 18th ranked passing offense, Boyd got more targets than Robinson and was a lot more productive with them.
Robinson was hampered by a groin injury most of last year.
AJG pulls coverage, Dalton goes to second option. AJG gets hurt, Boyd assumes #1 role and gets coverage, Dalton goes to second option (which is no longer Boyd). Without looking at any actual data, so take it with a grain of salt. Just seems like a plausible explanation. If that was the case, I'd say it could be an indicator of Boyd's ability to progress to true WR1 status.
Boyd got hurt late in the year as well. Without looking it up I think he missed part of week 16 and sat week 17.
Boyd was noticeably less useful for fantasy after Green went down. I have not looked at the data, it's just my murky recollection of it. But I also recollect the same argument being made, that he had coverage rolled to him once Green went down. Makes sense.
Totally forgot about Driskel.Concept Coop said:
That’s fair to note. It’s also fair to note that Robinson’s playoff performance - his best of the season and an obvious outlier - came against the worst secondary in the league, at that point in the season. Philly was missing their top 3 corners and starting guys they picked up off of waivers.
6-133-2, 31.3 pts (ppr)
10/143/1 = 30.3 points
Sure but when we are talking about WR2's that's generally how things go. ARob and Boyd both had 3 games that really stand out against the rest of their season, with Boyd's best likewise coming against an awful defense (Tampa).
Boyd scored in double digits in 9 of his 14 games. He scored 20 points in 6 of them. 25 points “really stands out” in 28, 25, 25, 21, 21, 21? I’m not sure what you’re getting at here. Even cherry picking games, Robinson wasn’t nearly as consistent.
honestly I forgot Dallas even made the playoffs, I guess I am so used to them disappointing now it's just pre-programmed in my brain. Fair point, as Cooper had 2 good games in the playoffs as well (17pts and 18pts).I'd call that way too much for Robinson. DJ Moore is a WR2 in my opinion, who is what 23? Moore is also an undisputed #1 WR, and showed some major big play ability last year.
Redraft I'd say Moore & Robinson are fairly even (if you believe in Robinson, which I don't) and in dynasty it would take Robinson + for me to give up Moore. (I don't own either, anywhere)
I'd put Mike Williams around 1.5. He's got a lot going for him, big TD threat, also gets a lot of deep passes, and was a top-10 pick, who looked much improved in year 2. However, its unlikely he passes Keenan Allen anytime soon, and who knows how long Rivers has. Tyrell Williams leaving is offset by the return of Hunter Henry.
Williams is big targets of mine this off-season. I traded a late 2020 1st, late 2020 2nd, and Matt Ryan in a 12 Tm, 4pt passing TD, PPR league. I was stoked to get him for that.
According to ADP data, Moore is at 38 overall which is 10 before Robinson, so the other guy should pay extra.
His ADP is 53, right ahead of Boyd.
This is false, barring injuries. Reasons:
It can’t be false, as next season hasn’t happened yet. But I understand that you disagree.
With all due respect, it is absolutely false that "the Chargers are likely to throw a lot more than they did last season." 'Likely' being the word that makes it false.
