Dynasty Value Discussion Thread (3 Viewers)

[Ramblin Wreck]

Piling on the Bijan by a lot crowd. I'd rather start Bijan and some bench guy like Darius Slayton than the LAC RBBC with a 1.12 WR.

 

[Hot Sauce Guy]

Thoughts on this one…

12 team ppr, 1 QB. I have a team that is very top heavy and no depth. This is a very competitive league and there’s not one outstanding team. There are at least 6 teams with a legit shot to win it. I won it last season based on Chase and some luck. Current Starters: Stroud, Bijan, Javonte, Chase, Puka, MHJ, Odunze, Kraft.

I’ve been offered 1.02, 1.12, and Najee for Bijan. On the surface I feel like I should need more for Bijan. But locking down the Chargers backfield, then either taking a player at 1.12, or trading it for a veteran starter may not be a bad play for this team.

Thoughts?

Not enough for Bijan. You’re better off with Bijan+Chase.

 

[Hot Sauce Guy]

12 team SF PPR no D/ST, no K, start 10

Current QB: Cam Ward, Darnold, (ARich, Levis, Zach Wilson, Trubisky)

Current WR: Chase, ARSB, AJB, Ridley, (Bateman, MWilliams, Austin III, Chism)

Current RB: Chase Brown, Mixon, Monty (James/Guerendo, Mafah, Marks, Pierce,

Another owner & I were chatting & he floated the idea of his JJM+McConkey for my ARSB.

QB are like gold in this league, and while I hate to lose ARSB, I don’t see it as that much of a drop-off from him to McConkey. If I did this I could pretty easily flip Darnold for another quality WR or RB. I’m a bit thin at both positions past my core.

Am I undervaluing ARSB, overvaluing McConkey, or overthinking everything? My gut says it’s a sharp move, but I love me some ARSB.

Oh, and the team with JJM/MCConkey is the team I lost to in the LCG, if that matters.

What would you do?

 

[Crippler]

12 team SF PPR no D/ST, no K, start 10

Current QB: Cam Ward, Darnold, (ARich, Levis, Zach Wilson, Trubisky)

Current WR: Chase, ARSB, AJB, Ridley, (Bateman, MWilliams, Austin III, Chism)

Current RB: Chase Brown, Mixon, Monty (James/Guerendo, Mafah, Marks, Pierce,

Another owner & I were chatting & he floated the idea of his JJM+McConkey for my ARSB.

QB are like gold in this league, and while I hate to lose ARSB, I don’t see it as that much of a drop-off from him to McConkey. If I did this I could pretty easily flip Darnold for another quality WR or RB. I’m a bit thin at both positions past my core.

Am I undervaluing ARSB, overvaluing McConkey, or overthinking everything? My gut says it’s a sharp move, but I love me some ARSB.

Oh, and the team with JJM/MCConkey is the team I lost to in the LCG, if that matters.

What would you do?

Very easy accept in SF. I would not trade McCarthy for St. Brown in my SF league(15 teams though)

The downside from St. Brown to McConkey is negligible and for dynasty even closer. McCarthy could be huge upgrade to Darnold for your starters

 

[Wigglytuff's Gruff]

Not unreasonable to think you've had the best of ARSB also.

I'd make that trade.

 

[Birdie048]

Take it. ASRB might see some volume reduction with Jameson W coming up in coach appreciation

 

[Boston]

12 team SF PPR no D/ST, no K, start 10

Current QB: Cam Ward, Darnold, (ARich, Levis, Zach Wilson, Trubisky)

Current WR: Chase, ARSB, AJB, Ridley, (Bateman, MWilliams, Austin III, Chism)

Current RB: Chase Brown, Mixon, Monty (James/Guerendo, Mafah, Marks, Pierce,

Another owner & I were chatting & he floated the idea of his JJM+McConkey for my ARSB.

QB are like gold in this league, and while I hate to lose ARSB, I don’t see it as that much of a drop-off from him to McConkey. If I did this I could pretty easily flip Darnold for another quality WR or RB. I’m a bit thin at both positions past my core.

Am I undervaluing ARSB, overvaluing McConkey, or overthinking everything? My gut says it’s a sharp move, but I love me some ARSB.

Oh, and the team with JJM/MCConkey is the team I lost to in the LCG, if that matters.

What would you do?

ASRB is a very tough one to trade but that is a deal you should make...you are playing with fire with your QB situation...Ward is a rookie and still TBD and Darnold still has his questions and who knows what is going on with Richardson...in a best case situation that unit is nothing too special but in a worst case situation be it injuries and/or Milroe leap-frogging Darnold you could ruin your season pretty quickly...you just don't want to be in a situation in SF where you are backed into a corner without hand chasing QBs...this deal bails you out in a big way...JJM is young and in a great situation playing for O'Connell...he has a chance to be a very good fantasy QB for a long period of time...the price for your get out-of-jail card is going from ARSB to McConkey...you could be in a far, far worse situation than that and who knows McConkey could even end up posting better #'s...not only would I make this deal but if the other Owner got cold feet I would not hesitate to add another piece that you can afford to finalize it...as much as it sucks trading a stud like ARSB this deal really changes your roster for the better in a big way and if the best case scenario happens with Ward, Darnold and Richardson you would now be in a position where you can deal either Darnold or Richardson from a position of strength...this deal just makes a ton of sense.

 

[Ramblin Wreck]

12 team SF PPR no D/ST, no K, start 10

Current QB: Cam Ward, Darnold, (ARich, Levis, Zach Wilson, Trubisky)

Current WR: Chase, ARSB, AJB, Ridley, (Bateman, MWilliams, Austin III, Chism)

Current RB: Chase Brown, Mixon, Monty (James/Guerendo, Mafah, Marks, Pierce,

Another owner & I were chatting & he floated the idea of his JJM+McConkey for my ARSB.

QB are like gold in this league, and while I hate to lose ARSB, I don’t see it as that much of a drop-off from him to McConkey. If I did this I could pretty easily flip Darnold for another quality WR or RB. I’m a bit thin at both positions past my core.

Am I undervaluing ARSB, overvaluing McConkey, or overthinking everything? My gut says it’s a sharp move, but I love me some ARSB.

Oh, and the team with JJM/MCConkey is the team I lost to in the LCG, if that matters.

What would you do?

JJM and McConkey easily for me. ARSB could still be good but things could change in Detroit without Ben Johnson. McConkey is younger and has a better QB. Mccarthy is a young QB with a great offensive coach.

 

[Hot Sauce Guy]

Will re-enter negotiations to see if we can get it done.

Appreciate the feedback, all!

 

[Hot Sauce Guy]

Milroe leap-frogging Darnold

FWIW I’m extremely skeptical this happens.

 

[Boston]

Milroe leap-frogging Darnold

FWIW I’m extremely skeptical this happens.

I am as well...but I always look at worst and best-case scenario and with your current QB situation you do not have much room for error...if Milroe/Darnold turns into Hurts/Wentz and you don't own Milroe that would be devastating to you.

 

[-OZ-]

Milroe leap-frogging Darnold

FWIW I’m extremely skeptical this happens.

This year I’d agree. Past that? Quite possible.

 

[Hot Sauce Guy]

Milroe leap-frogging Darnold

FWIW I’m extremely skeptical this happens.

This year I’d agree. Past that? Quite possible.

I’m skeptical it happens next year either.

But I’m also optimistic about Darnold.

Which is good because dude had second thoughts and rejected my offer.

 

[Marauder]

Milroe leap-frogging Darnold

FWIW I’m extremely skeptical this happens.

This year I’d agree. Past that? Quite possible.

I’m skeptical it happens next year either.

But I’m also optimistic about Darnold.

Which is good because dude had second thoughts and rejected my offer.

He was probably reading this thread.

 

[Hot Sauce Guy]

He was probably reading this thread.

lol, nah. He just slept on it and came to his senses. Bummer. I’m waiting for him to counter for Ja’Chase.

 

[formerfourdigit]

okay two questions , i'm new to dynasty:
1. I have an oppo to trade into the top 3 of a startup (12 tm sf) for my 3rd rounder, two future firsts, and a bit more... feel like that's worth it? I would have 3 picks in the top 18 to start
2. If I did that would it be crazy to start with youth like Jayden-Nabers-Caleb, or would a win-now build like Lamar-Lamb-ARSB make more sense?

 

[Ramblin Wreck]

okay two questions , i'm new to dynasty:
1. I have an oppo to trade into the top 3 of a startup (12 tm sf) for my 3rd rounder, two future firsts, and a bit more... feel like that's worth it? I would have 3 picks in the top 18 to start
2. If I did that would it be crazy to start with youth like Jayden-Nabers-Caleb, or would a win-now build like Lamar-Lamb-ARSB make more sense?

Would need to know lineup requirements. The smaller the lineup the more I would be willing to get those studs. But based on what you've provided, there's no way I am trading two 1's and more to move up there.

 

[formerfourdigit]

okay two questions , i'm new to dynasty:
1. I have an oppo to trade into the top 3 of a startup (12 tm sf) for my 3rd rounder, two future firsts, and a bit more... feel like that's worth it? I would have 3 picks in the top 18 to start
2. If I did that would it be crazy to start with youth like Jayden-Nabers-Caleb, or would a win-now build like Lamar-Lamb-ARSB make more sense?

Would need to know lineup requirements. The smaller the lineup the more I would be willing to get those studs. But based on what you've provided, there's no way I am trading two 1's and more to move up there.

start 10 (1/2/2/1 with 3flex 1sf) deep bench

 

[Ramblin Wreck]

okay two questions , i'm new to dynasty:
1. I have an oppo to trade into the top 3 of a startup (12 tm sf) for my 3rd rounder, two future firsts, and a bit more... feel like that's worth it? I would have 3 picks in the top 18 to start
2. If I did that would it be crazy to start with youth like Jayden-Nabers-Caleb, or would a win-now build like Lamar-Lamb-ARSB make more sense?

Would need to know lineup requirements. The smaller the lineup the more I would be willing to get those studs. But based on what you've provided, there's no way I am trading two 1's and more to move up there.

start 10 (1/2/2/1 with 3flex 1sf) deep bench

What pick do you have? What is the full trade?

 

[formerfourdigit]

okay two questions , i'm new to dynasty:
1. I have an oppo to trade into the top 3 of a startup (12 tm sf) for my 3rd rounder, two future firsts, and a bit more... feel like that's worth it? I would have 3 picks in the top 18 to start
2. If I did that would it be crazy to start with youth like Jayden-Nabers-Caleb, or would a win-now build like Lamar-Lamb-ARSB make more sense?

Would need to know lineup requirements. The smaller the lineup the more I would be willing to get those studs. But based on what you've provided, there's no way I am trading two 1's and more to move up there.

start 10 (1/2/2/1 with 3flex 1sf) deep bench

What pick do you have? What is the full trade?

12 team i have 8 spot.

i send 3.8, 4.5, 2026 1st, 2027 1st
i get 1.2, 6.11

thanks!

 

[Ramblin Wreck]

okay two questions , i'm new to dynasty:
1. I have an oppo to trade into the top 3 of a startup (12 tm sf) for my 3rd rounder, two future firsts, and a bit more... feel like that's worth it? I would have 3 picks in the top 18 to start
2. If I did that would it be crazy to start with youth like Jayden-Nabers-Caleb, or would a win-now build like Lamar-Lamb-ARSB make more sense?

Would need to know lineup requirements. The smaller the lineup the more I would be willing to get those studs. But based on what you've provided, there's no way I am trading two 1's and more to move up there.

start 10 (1/2/2/1 with 3flex 1sf) deep bench

What pick do you have? What is the full trade?

12 team i have 8 spot.

i send 3.8, 4.5, 2026 1st, 2027 1st
i get 1.2, 6.11

thanks!

So using dynasty SF adp that trade looks something like this.

You get Jayden Daniels and Stafford/Dart, Harvey/Chuba, McLaurin/DK, or Loveland/Hockenson. You give up two of Love/Lawrence/Goff, Hampton/Taylor/Breece/Bucky, Harrison/AJ Brown/JSN/Rice, and probably not looking at a TE with your picks. And you throw in two #1's to do this.

I like the 3.8 side and picks by a mile here. I love Daniels but that's a huge price to pay IMO.

 

[ffmail4me]

Curious to some opinions on this trade offer I got (which I did NOT accept). This is a 12 team SF PPR Best Ball Dynasty League. I currently only have 1 starting QB (Jayden Daniels) and my other QBs (Cousins, Watson, Winston) are clearly all backups. I was offered Baker Mayfield and Tee Higgins for Nabers. I am REALLY high on Nabers, like, I think he'll be considered top 3 by next year for the foreseeable future, so I didn't want to move him...I floated the trade around a few FF forums and almost everyone said they would have passed too. What do you guys think? If this helps, here is my current roster with projected weekly starters in bold:

Daniels, Cousins, Winston, Watson
Jeanty, Henderson, Mixon, Roschon Johnson, Justice Hill, Pierce, Croskey-Merritt, McNichols
JJ, Nabers, Garrett Wilson, McLaurin, Aiyuk, Jauan Jennings, Burden, Bateman, Dyami Brown, Luke McCaffrey, Tolbert, Dotson, Zaccheaus
Henry, Kmet, Conklin, Hooper, All

 

[Raging weasel]

Curious to some opinions on this trade offer I got (which I did NOT accept). This is a 12 team SF PPR Best Ball Dynasty League. I currently only have 1 starting QB (Jayden Daniels) and my other QBs (Cousins, Watson, Winston) are clearly all backups. I was offered Baker Mayfield and Tee Higgins for Nabers. I am REALLY high on Nabers, like, I think he'll be considered top 3 by next year for the foreseeable future, so I didn't want to move him...I floated the trade around a few FF forums and almost everyone said they would have passed too. What do you guys think? If this helps, here is my current roster with projected weekly starters in bold:

Daniels, Cousins, Winston, Watson
Jeanty, Henderson, Mixon, Roschon Johnson, Justice Hill, Pierce, Croskey-Merritt, McNichols
JJ, Nabers, Garrett Wilson, McLaurin, Aiyuk, Jauan Jennings, Burden, Bateman, Dyami Brown, Luke McCaffrey, Tolbert, Dotson, Zaccheaus
Henry, Kmet, Conklin, Hooper, All

I'd pass too. Don't think you're getting enough to put you in position to win a title this year and hurts your rebuild for the future.

 

[IHEARTFF]

Curious to some opinions on this trade offer I got (which I did NOT accept). This is a 12 team SF PPR Best Ball Dynasty League. I currently only have 1 starting QB (Jayden Daniels) and my other QBs (Cousins, Watson, Winston) are clearly all backups. I was offered Baker Mayfield and Tee Higgins for Nabers. I am REALLY high on Nabers, like, I think he'll be considered top 3 by next year for the foreseeable future, so I didn't want to move him...I floated the trade around a few FF forums and almost everyone said they would have passed too. What do you guys think? If this helps, here is my current roster with projected weekly starters in bold:

Daniels, Cousins, Winston, Watson
Jeanty, Henderson, Mixon, Roschon Johnson, Justice Hill, Pierce, Croskey-Merritt, McNichols
JJ, Nabers, Garrett Wilson, McLaurin, Aiyuk, Jauan Jennings, Burden, Bateman, Dyami Brown, Luke McCaffrey, Tolbert, Dotson, Zaccheaus
Henry, Kmet, Conklin, Hooper, All

I might do it. You're stacked at WR and Tee is not a massive drop off from Nabers imo. Guess it comes down to how you value Baker in dynasty.

 

[Ramblin Wreck]

Curious to some opinions on this trade offer I got (which I did NOT accept). This is a 12 team SF PPR Best Ball Dynasty League. I currently only have 1 starting QB (Jayden Daniels) and my other QBs (Cousins, Watson, Winston) are clearly all backups. I was offered Baker Mayfield and Tee Higgins for Nabers. I am REALLY high on Nabers, like, I think he'll be considered top 3 by next year for the foreseeable future, so I didn't want to move him...I floated the trade around a few FF forums and almost everyone said they would have passed too. What do you guys think? If this helps, here is my current roster with projected weekly starters in bold:

Daniels, Cousins, Winston, Watson
Jeanty, Henderson, Mixon, Roschon Johnson, Justice Hill, Pierce, Croskey-Merritt, McNichols
JJ, Nabers, Garrett Wilson, McLaurin, Aiyuk, Jauan Jennings, Burden, Bateman, Dyami Brown, Luke McCaffrey, Tolbert, Dotson, Zaccheaus
Henry, Kmet, Conklin, Hooper, All

I'd pass. Nabers is elite.

 

[Buckna]

Curious to some opinions on this trade offer I got (which I did NOT accept). This is a 12 team SF PPR Best Ball Dynasty League. I currently only have 1 starting QB (Jayden Daniels) and my other QBs (Cousins, Watson, Winston) are clearly all backups. I was offered Baker Mayfield and Tee Higgins for Nabers. I am REALLY high on Nabers, like, I think he'll be considered top 3 by next year for the foreseeable future, so I didn't want to move him...I floated the trade around a few FF forums and almost everyone said they would have passed too. What do you guys think? If this helps, here is my current roster with projected weekly starters in bold:

Daniels, Cousins, Winston, Watson
Jeanty, Henderson, Mixon, Roschon Johnson, Justice Hill, Pierce, Croskey-Merritt, McNichols
JJ, Nabers, Garrett Wilson, McLaurin, Aiyuk, Jauan Jennings, Burden, Bateman, Dyami Brown, Luke McCaffrey, Tolbert, Dotson, Zaccheaus
Henry, Kmet, Conklin, Hooper, All

I might do it. You're stacked at WR and Tee is not a massive drop off from Nabers imo. Guess it comes down to how you value Baker in dynasty.

It’s a solid offer in SF and agree that it comes down to how you feel about Baker. Having no QB2 in SF is tough, might try shopping for a top QB one likes better straight up since this team is stacked at WR.

FWIW, Higgins actually outscored Nabers in PPG last year (just barely.) Both are probably due for some regression but then again Baker is probably too.

 

[Helaire-ious]

Curious to some opinions on this trade offer I got (which I did NOT accept). This is a 12 team SF PPR Best Ball Dynasty League. I currently only have 1 starting QB (Jayden Daniels) and my other QBs (Cousins, Watson, Winston) are clearly all backups. I was offered Baker Mayfield and Tee Higgins for Nabers. I am REALLY high on Nabers, like, I think he'll be considered top 3 by next year for the foreseeable future, so I didn't want to move him...I floated the trade around a few FF forums and almost everyone said they would have passed too. What do you guys think? If this helps, here is my current roster with projected weekly starters in bold:

Daniels, Cousins, Winston, Watson
Jeanty, Henderson, Mixon, Roschon Johnson, Justice Hill, Pierce, Croskey-Merritt, McNichols
JJ, Nabers, Garrett Wilson, McLaurin, Aiyuk, Jauan Jennings, Burden, Bateman, Dyami Brown, Luke McCaffrey, Tolbert, Dotson, Zaccheaus
Henry, Kmet, Conklin, Hooper, All

That's a tough one. I can see the case for both accepting and declining. Time to shop Nabers around and see what better QBs you may be able to get. If none, you might want to counter that person with them adding another player or a WR a little better for FF than Higgins if they have one. You may have to add more on your end if you can get a super deal. GL!

 

[wgoldsph]

Curious to some opinions on this trade offer I got (which I did NOT accept). This is a 12 team SF PPR Best Ball Dynasty League. I currently only have 1 starting QB (Jayden Daniels) and my other QBs (Cousins, Watson, Winston) are clearly all backups. I was offered Baker Mayfield and Tee Higgins for Nabers. I am REALLY high on Nabers, like, I think he'll be considered top 3 by next year for the foreseeable future, so I didn't want to move him...I floated the trade around a few FF forums and almost everyone said they would have passed too. What do you guys think? If this helps, here is my current roster with projected weekly starters in bold:

Daniels, Cousins, Winston, Watson
Jeanty, Henderson, Mixon, Roschon Johnson, Justice Hill, Pierce, Croskey-Merritt, McNichols
JJ, Nabers, Garrett Wilson, McLaurin, Aiyuk, Jauan Jennings, Burden, Bateman, Dyami Brown, Luke McCaffrey, Tolbert, Dotson, Zaccheaus
Henry, Kmet, Conklin, Hooper, All

I love Tee (bold predicted hed be top ten) and I understand the allure of Baker...

Personally, I need to be WOWed to move a guy I expected to be top 3. This doesn't WOW me. It's doesn't even wow me. If I'm giving up top 3 talent I want an overpay from the other team. Legitimately I tell my leaguemates that to get Justin Jefferson off my team they're going to need to give me more than they're will to give. Some talent is just better in your lineup than what it can get you in a deal.

 

[FreeBaGeL]

Curious to some opinions on this trade offer I got (which I did NOT accept). This is a 12 team SF PPR Best Ball Dynasty League. I currently only have 1 starting QB (Jayden Daniels) and my other QBs (Cousins, Watson, Winston) are clearly all backups. I was offered Baker Mayfield and Tee Higgins for Nabers. I am REALLY high on Nabers, like, I think he'll be considered top 3 by next year for the foreseeable future, so I didn't want to move him...I floated the trade around a few FF forums and almost everyone said they would have passed too. What do you guys think? If this helps, here is my current roster with projected weekly starters in bold:

Daniels, Cousins, Winston, Watson
Jeanty, Henderson, Mixon, Roschon Johnson, Justice Hill, Pierce, Croskey-Merritt, McNichols
JJ, Nabers, Garrett Wilson, McLaurin, Aiyuk, Jauan Jennings, Burden, Bateman, Dyami Brown, Luke McCaffrey, Tolbert, Dotson, Zaccheaus
Henry, Kmet, Conklin, Hooper, All

There's no way I'm doing that, but I'm a true believer in studs in dynasty over a couple of pretty good players.

To me, that trade reads way too much like trading a 22 year old Justin Jefferson for Tannehill/McLaurin or a 22 year old Jamar Chase for Derek Carr/DJ Moore.

And before you assume I pulled those names out of my butt those pairs (Carr/Moore and Tanny/McClaurin) had almost the exact same startup ADP when Chase/JJ were Nabers age as Baker/Higgins have now.

3 years from now I think there is a very good chance that Nabers is still a tippy top dynasty asset while Baker/Tee are valued a lot more similar to those two pairs I mentioned above.

 

[joey]

Curious to some opinions on this trade offer I got (which I did NOT accept). This is a 12 team SF PPR Best Ball Dynasty League. I currently only have 1 starting QB (Jayden Daniels) and my other QBs (Cousins, Watson, Winston) are clearly all backups. I was offered Baker Mayfield and Tee Higgins for Nabers. I am REALLY high on Nabers, like, I think he'll be considered top 3 by next year for the foreseeable future, so I didn't want to move him...I floated the trade around a few FF forums and almost everyone said they would have passed too. What do you guys think? If this helps, here is my current roster with projected weekly starters in bold:

Daniels, Cousins, Winston, Watson
Jeanty, Henderson, Mixon, Roschon Johnson, Justice Hill, Pierce, Croskey-Merritt, McNichols
JJ, Nabers, Garrett Wilson, McLaurin, Aiyuk, Jauan Jennings, Burden, Bateman, Dyami Brown, Luke McCaffrey, Tolbert, Dotson, Zaccheaus
Henry, Kmet, Conklin, Hooper, All

There's no way I'm doing that, but I'm a true believer in studs in dynasty over a couple of pretty good players.

To me, that trade reads way too much like trading a 22 year old Justin Jefferson for Tannehill/McLaurin or a 22 year old Jamar Chase for Derek Carr/DJ Moore.

And before you assume I pulled those names out of my butt those pairs (Carr/Moore and Tanny/McClaurin) had almost the exact same startup ADP when Chase/JJ were Nabers age as Baker/Higgins have now.

3 years from now I think there is a very good chance that Nabers is still a tippy top dynasty asset while Baker/Tee are valued a lot more similar to those two pairs I mentioned above.

Any way a McLaurin+ a pick can pull a Mayfield in SF?

 

[TVT 0 N S T A]

Curious to some opinions on this trade offer I got (which I did NOT accept). This is a 12 team SF PPR Best Ball Dynasty League. I currently only have 1 starting QB (Jayden Daniels) and my other QBs (Cousins, Watson, Winston) are clearly all backups. I was offered Baker Mayfield and Tee Higgins for Nabers. I am REALLY high on Nabers, like, I think he'll be considered top 3 by next year for the foreseeable future, so I didn't want to move him...I floated the trade around a few FF forums and almost everyone said they would have passed too. What do you guys think? If this helps, here is my current roster with projected weekly starters in bold:

Daniels, Cousins, Winston, Watson
Jeanty, Henderson, Mixon, Roschon Johnson, Justice Hill, Pierce, Croskey-Merritt, McNichols
JJ, Nabers, Garrett Wilson, McLaurin, Aiyuk, Jauan Jennings, Burden, Bateman, Dyami Brown, Luke McCaffrey, Tolbert, Dotson, Zaccheaus
Henry, Kmet, Conklin, Hooper, All

There's no way I'm doing that, but I'm a true believer in studs in dynasty over a couple of pretty good players.

To me, that trade reads way too much like trading a 22 year old Justin Jefferson for Tannehill/McLaurin or a 22 year old Jamar Chase for Derek Carr/DJ Moore.

And before you assume I pulled those names out of my butt those pairs (Carr/Moore and Tanny/McClaurin) had almost the exact same startup ADP when Chase/JJ were Nabers age as Baker/Higgins have now.

3 years from now I think there is a very good chance that Nabers is still a tippy top dynasty asset while Baker/Tee are valued a lot more similar to those two pairs I mentioned above.

Well done!

I agree. You need studs to win championships and the potential trade partner is selling HIGH on Baker Mayfield and the only thing Tee Higgins has is "upside" that we have yet to see, due to health.

If I am looking to tier down from Nabers... I would be considering Garrett Wilson, AJ Brown or someone in that tier + a better QB and I might want a draft pick too.

 

[Hot Sauce Guy]

okay two questions , i'm new to dynasty:
1. I have an oppo to trade into the top 3 of a startup (12 tm sf) for my 3rd rounder, two future firsts, and a bit more... feel like that's worth it? I would have 3 picks in the top 18 to start

Startup picks are substantially more valuable than rookie picks. I’d do this without batting an eye.

2. If I did that would it be crazy to start with youth like Jayden-Nabers-Caleb, or would a win-now build like Lamar-Lamb-ARSB make more sense?

Pick the most valuable players on the board. Let the draft come to you. If it’s Allen or Daniels or LJax there ya go. Figure out values and draft when they fall to you.

But I’d def make that deal.

 

[Hot Sauce Guy]

Curious to some opinions on this trade offer I got (which I did NOT accept). This is a 12 team SF PPR Best Ball Dynasty League. I currently only have 1 starting QB (Jayden Daniels) and my other QBs (Cousins, Watson, Winston) are clearly all backups. I was offered Baker Mayfield and Tee Higgins for Nabers. I am REALLY high on Nabers, like, I think he'll be considered top 3 by next year for the foreseeable future, so I didn't want to move him...I floated the trade around a few FF forums and almost everyone said they would have passed too. What do you guys think? If this helps, here is my current roster with projected weekly starters in bold:

Daniels, Cousins, Winston, Watson
Jeanty, Henderson, Mixon, Roschon Johnson, Justice Hill, Pierce, Croskey-Merritt, McNichols
JJ, Nabers, Garrett Wilson, McLaurin, Aiyuk, Jauan Jennings, Burden, Bateman, Dyami Brown, Luke McCaffrey, Tolbert, Dotson, Zaccheaus
Henry, Kmet, Conklin, Hooper, All

There's no way I'm doing that, but I'm a true believer in studs in dynasty over a couple of pretty good players.

To me, that trade reads way too much like trading a 22 year old Justin Jefferson for Tannehill/McLaurin or a 22 year old Jamar Chase for Derek Carr/DJ Moore.

And before you assume I pulled those names out of my butt those pairs (Carr/Moore and Tanny/McClaurin) had almost the exact same startup ADP when Chase/JJ were Nabers age as Baker/Higgins have now.

3 years from now I think there is a very good chance that Nabers is still a tippy top dynasty asset while Baker/Tee are valued a lot more similar to those two pairs I mentioned above.

Any way a McLaurin+ a pick can pull a Mayfield in SF?

As a Mayfield SF shareholder, no way.

 

[joey]

Curious to some opinions on this trade offer I got (which I did NOT accept). This is a 12 team SF PPR Best Ball Dynasty League. I currently only have 1 starting QB (Jayden Daniels) and my other QBs (Cousins, Watson, Winston) are clearly all backups. I was offered Baker Mayfield and Tee Higgins for Nabers. I am REALLY high on Nabers, like, I think he'll be considered top 3 by next year for the foreseeable future, so I didn't want to move him...I floated the trade around a few FF forums and almost everyone said they would have passed too. What do you guys think? If this helps, here is my current roster with projected weekly starters in bold:

Daniels, Cousins, Winston, Watson
Jeanty, Henderson, Mixon, Roschon Johnson, Justice Hill, Pierce, Croskey-Merritt, McNichols
JJ, Nabers, Garrett Wilson, McLaurin, Aiyuk, Jauan Jennings, Burden, Bateman, Dyami Brown, Luke McCaffrey, Tolbert, Dotson, Zaccheaus
Henry, Kmet, Conklin, Hooper, All

There's no way I'm doing that, but I'm a true believer in studs in dynasty over a couple of pretty good players.

To me, that trade reads way too much like trading a 22 year old Justin Jefferson for Tannehill/McLaurin or a 22 year old Jamar Chase for Derek Carr/DJ Moore.

And before you assume I pulled those names out of my butt those pairs (Carr/Moore and Tanny/McClaurin) had almost the exact same startup ADP when Chase/JJ were Nabers age as Baker/Higgins have now.

3 years from now I think there is a very good chance that Nabers is still a tippy top dynasty asset while Baker/Tee are valued a lot more similar to those two pairs I mentioned above.

Any way a McLaurin+ a pick can pull a Mayfield in SF?

As a Mayfield SF shareholder, no way.

Yeah. Felt like a stretch. I guess I’m more wondering if he could trade McLaurin for a lower level/older Starting QB who has a couple of years left, instead of sending one of his top 2-3 WRs for a higher QB.

I don’t do dynasty SF so I’m totally out of my depth here.

Backing away from the iPad….

 

[Hot Sauce Guy]

Dynasty value in a 12-team PPR startup:
Nico, McConkey, JSN, MH2, or Garrett Wilson

GO!

 

[Ramblin Wreck]

Dynasty value in a 12-team PPR startup:
Nico, McConkey, JSN, MH2, or Garrett Wilson

GO!

Nico, Marvin, Wilson, mcconkey, JSN

 

[Hot Sauce Guy]

Dynasty value in a 12-team PPR startup:
Nico, McConkey, JSN, MH2, or Garrett Wilson

GO!

Nico, Marvin, Wilson, mcconkey, JSN

Well, Nico is gone - leaves me a hard choice between McConkey & GW.

I feel like GW has more upside/ceiling. Hate drafting Jets though.

 

[JoeJoe88]

Dynasty value in a 12-team PPR startup:
Nico, McConkey, JSN, MH2, or Garrett Wilson

GO!

Nico, Marvin, Wilson, mcconkey, JSN

Well, Nico is gone - leaves me a hard choice between McConkey & GW.

I feel like GW has more upside/ceiling. Hate drafting Jets though.

Ladd for me. I would rank those players:

Nico
Ladd
Wilson
JSN
Marv

 

[Hot Sauce Guy]

Dynasty value in a 12-team PPR startup:
Nico, McConkey, JSN, MH2, or Garrett Wilson

GO!

Nico, Marvin, Wilson, mcconkey, JSN

Well, Nico is gone - leaves me a hard choice between McConkey & GW.

I feel like GW has more upside/ceiling. Hate drafting Jets though.

Ladd for me. I would rank those players:

Nico
Ladd
Wilson
JSN
Marv

Thanks - Nico and London were both just picked, so I’m torn between Ladd & GW. Leaning GW for lack of target competition and upside.

 

[TVT 0 N S T A]

Dynasty value in a 12-team PPR startup:
Nico, McConkey, JSN, MH2, or Garrett Wilson

GO!

Nico, Marvin, Wilson, mcconkey, JSN

Well, Nico is gone - leaves me a hard choice between McConkey & GW.

I feel like GW has more upside/ceiling. Hate drafting Jets though.

Ladd for me. I would rank those players:

Nico
Ladd
Wilson
JSN
Marv

Thanks - Nico and London were both just picked, so I’m torn between Ladd & GW. Leaning GW for lack of target competition and upside.

I am pretty high on Ladd McConkey. He seems to have the most capable offense/QB and I agree with your feeling about drafting Jets.

 

[Hot Sauce Guy]

Dynasty value in a 12-team PPR startup:
Nico, McConkey, JSN, MH2, or Garrett Wilson

GO!

Nico, Marvin, Wilson, mcconkey, JSN

Well, Nico is gone - leaves me a hard choice between McConkey & GW.

I feel like GW has more upside/ceiling. Hate drafting Jets though.

Ladd for me. I would rank those players:

Nico
Ladd
Wilson
JSN
Marv

Thanks - Nico and London were both just picked, so I’m torn between Ladd & GW. Leaning GW for lack of target competition and upside.

I am pretty high on Ladd McConkey. He seems to have the most capable offense/QB and I agree with your feeling about drafting Jets.

I worry that Ladd is due for target regression on a team that doesn’t want to pass that much.

 

[menobrown]

Dynasty value in a 12-team PPR startup:
Nico, McConkey, JSN, MH2, or Garrett Wilson

GO!

Nico, Marvin, Wilson, mcconkey, JSN

Well, Nico is gone - leaves me a hard choice between McConkey & GW.

I feel like GW has more upside/ceiling. Hate drafting Jets though.

Ladd for me. I would rank those players:

Nico
Ladd
Wilson
JSN
Marv

Thanks - Nico and London were both just picked, so I’m torn between Ladd & GW. Leaning GW for lack of target competition and upside.

I am pretty high on Ladd McConkey. He seems to have the most capable offense/QB and I agree with your feeling about drafting Jets.

I worry that Ladd is due for target regression on a team that doesn’t want to pass that much.

I don't own Ladd so not trying to stump for him but would just say earlier this off-season I had concerns on his target volume from the angle the surrounding weapons last year were awful and could only improve and pose more of a threat to him.

But then I started focusing on fact he only got 7 targets a game last year which just among WR's I think was 33rd.

I arrived at the conclusion it can't really go much lower to be much of a factor and instead think he has growth potential if he can move past being primarily a slot WR. And yes I know everyone loves to mention he's not a slot only, but that's mainly what he was last year and it's far and away were he got most of his production.

That's a tough call you got and glad I don't have to make it. I'd be trying to move back a few spots.

 

[Hot Sauce Guy]

That's a tough call you got and glad I don't have to make it. I'd be trying to move back a few spots.

I think I’m gonna take GW. I might float a trade back to see if I can get a little more value.

 

[Ramblin Wreck]

That's a tough call you got and glad I don't have to make it. I'd be trying to move back a few spots.

I think I’m gonna take GW. I might float a trade back to see if I can get a little more value.

Harrison gone? I think he's way better than his rookie season appeared.

 

[Hot Sauce Guy]

That's a tough call you got and glad I don't have to make it. I'd be trying to move back a few spots.

I think I’m gonna take GW. I might float a trade back to see if I can get a little more value.

Harrison gone? I think he's way better than his rookie season appeared.

MH2 is there. I’m not sure what would change between last year & this, as his issue is partly tracking. I’m not a huge fan.

 

[Blick]

I’m putting Marv above all those guys except Nico just based on talent.

 

[Hot Sauce Guy]

I’m putting Marv above all those guys except Nico just based on talent.

I took GW.

I like MH2, but I’m not convinced he’s that guy.

I’ve long been a fan of GW’s game, and I feel like he’s going to get the best target share of the 3.

My concern about Ladd is he was hyper efficient, and only took off when both of LAC’s RB went down. Now they revamped the RB room, and I don’t know what the run/pass distribution will look like - if there are fewer targets or Ladd isn’t as efficient with them, it’s a little risky.

I think they’re kind of a coin flip, so I went with the dude who’s had a bit longer track record. The Fields connection is also a bit exciting.

Most difficult draft choice I’ve had in years. Appreciate the feedback everyone.

 

[TVT 0 N S T A]

I’m putting Marv above all those guys except Nico just based on talent.

I took GW.

I like MH2, but I’m not convinced he’s that guy.

I’ve long been a fan of GW’s game, and I feel like he’s going to get the best target share of the 3.

My concern about Ladd is he was hyper efficient, and only took off when both of LAC’s RB went down. Now they revamped the RB room, and I don’t know what the run/pass distribution will look like - if there are fewer targets or Ladd isn’t as efficient with them, it’s a little risky.

I think they’re kind of a coin flip, so I went with the dude who’s had a big longer track record. The Fields connection is also a bit exciting.

Most difficult draft choice I’ve had in years. Appreciate the feedback everyone.

I think Garrett Wilson is great. I think he will get targets but Fields per game passing yardage is gross... even if Wilson got every target his ceiling is capped by Fields.

I guess the argument you could make is Fields never had a pro-WR with the skillset that Wilson possesses.

I believe Ladd has earned a larger piece in this offense and could see a lot more play-action this year. If Ladd's efficiency goes down it would only mean he's playing outside more, which is a bonus in my mind.

It definitely is not an easy decision to make and I am not envious.

 

[Hot Sauce Guy]

but Fields per game passing yardage is gross... even if Wilson got every target his ceiling is capped by Fields

Take a look at DJM’s best season: 96/1364/8

That’s with Fields.

 

[Ramblin Wreck]

I’m putting Marv above all those guys except Nico just based on talent.

I took GW.

I like MH2, but I’m not convinced he’s that guy.

I’ve long been a fan of GW’s game, and I feel like he’s going to get the best target share of the 3.

My concern about Ladd is he was hyper efficient, and only took off when both of LAC’s RB went down. Now they revamped the RB room, and I don’t know what the run/pass distribution will look like - if there are fewer targets or Ladd isn’t as efficient with them, it’s a little risky.

I think they’re kind of a coin flip, so I went with the dude who’s had a big longer track record. The Fields connection is also a bit exciting.

Most difficult draft choice I’ve had in years. Appreciate the feedback everyone.

No issues with Wilson at all. I think he's a great player and agree he could get 150+ targets this year. I like Harrison slightly better on talent. Good discussion and you did what you should do in the end - take your guy after talking it out. Well done.