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I wouldn't move him for DJ. You might be able to get Chubb or Cook and I'd consider that. At TE I'd be tempted to move him for Engram personally. But if you're not on board with that, I'd target the top guys and an additional piece. Ertz or Andrews and a mid-1st, Kittle and a late first, etc.hispeedthinmint said:
Concept Coop said:
Not convinced he is overrated.Zyphros said:
You could be right - and I do expect some kind of bounce back. I just think his raw production needs some additional context. On paper it places him next to guys like Green and Julio, but I don’t think he’s on that level. He’s plenty talented though; I don’t mean to dispute that.
Yeah. If someone offered me a second for Dorsett I’d jump on that. I think he’s more realistically worth a third.
I’d keep the pick. It’s value can only really go up. Gallup’s value may go up or down and I doubt he helps much for this season.
my thought too, thanks. I offered Corey Davis and a lotto rb, declined so probably not a match
One of the 2nd round WRs from 2019 who aren’t producing yet, and then only on a team that thinks they can win it all this season
I like him as a rebuild target if he comes at an appropriate discount. I’m still 100% in on his talent. I do worry about the uncertainty w Arians: is it actually his system vs is Howard not playing well.
I just offered up Hopkins ($49 out of $250 cap) for Gallup ($5), Bradley Chubb ($10/2020) (big play IDP scoring), and 2020 late 1st (likely 10-12) and the guy said I was sniffing glue and was asking for way too much for Hopkins.
Good question. I could see giving an aging but still productive player; I like to make these kinds of moves in rebuilds because my draft pick gets higher for this year and I get exit value from a veteran. As far as draft picks I don't know....mid to late 2nd/early 3rd? I have no sense of what's realistic. I guess if the owner is really down on him long term he may be looking to get what he can.What's your take on the appropriate discount? I think he's lost a lot of value and I'm not sure I see that turning around anytime soon and he probably hasn't bottomed out yet. I also don't want to get beat to the punch by another owner though.
Not Hopkins but the OBJ owner has been desperately trying to move him to me. Not even close... offered me OBJ for Kupp, a high 1st, a low 3rd. I told him idk if I would trade Kupp for OBJ+1st much less me give a 1st. I am down on OBJ but that offense looks putrid.
I completely agree about OBJ because he is in a completely different situation that seems like a dumpster fire. However, Hopkins hasn't changed anything. A couple down weeks but I see no reason he should be devalued to the point he couldn't be traded for near full value.
I traded Olsen and Waller 2 weeks ago. At the time I thought it was a great deal. I’m still good with it on my rebuild but I’m starting to wonder if it wasn’t an overpay.What's your take on the appropriate discount? I think he's lost a lot of value and I'm not sure I see that turning around anytime soon and he probably hasn't bottomed out yet. I also don't want to get beat to the punch by another owner though
I think the thing that has changed for Hopkins is that the other WRs are finally healthy at the same time and the ball is getting spread around more.
You take that and run. Regardless of how he fits in with the WRs you're getting more than you're giving up - do that every time.
Should still be able to get another piece with Godwin for OBJ. Even if it's just a pick bump, like OBJ and your 2nd for Godwin and his 1st.
Yes, I think this would be worth considering.
As a Godwin owner I don't know if I'm trading him for anything that doesn't include an early first plus a quality player.
I dropped Corey Davis this past week to pick up and start Malcolm Brown. Forced into it by injuries, byes, and timing of Thursday night game... but I don't really regret it, either.Am I missing something...? I realize that no one is paying what Corey Davis is worth on any trade calculator/value chart, but i just had Davis for Chris Thompson declined, from a team who will not make the playoffs but isnt one of the top 3 worst teams (thanks to zeke).
That's crazy to me... I would at least take a shot for a 28 year old oft-injured-soon-to-be-FA RB.... Maybe I'm nuts idk. This league has 28 man rosters...
ETA: He also only has 1 draft pick (1st rd) but has major jeeds at every position.
/rant
Next year will be the final year of his rookie contract, right? And this will be the first off-season he's allowed to talk contract at all (after the first three years of his rookie deal).
If you dropped Davis and Brown was available then it sounds like this league has really shallow rosters.
take it an run imo. top 15 foundation WR it seems like, once you cross out the old guys who are fading out
I agree it’s easy to discuss “dynasty value” here in this vacuum, but in reality this would be a move a “win now” team would make. Why would a “win now” team be interested in downgrading in actual production let alone give away a first round pick to do so. With how fickle people are in dynasty, I’d bet most wouldn’t even accept OBJ for Godwin straight up.
I agree. So much of dynasty evaluation has shifted toward young/on the rise players and projections of remaining production (all valid considerations to be sure) that 26-ish year old players — at positions like WR with typically good longevity — seem considered declining assets in more trade discussions than I remember in the past.
I was told by the Chark owner last week that he wouldn't trade Chark straight up for Hopkins. I had offered Hopkins for Chark & 1st (Salary cap league with Hopkins at $49 and Chark at $5).
