BigBlue_RI
Footballguy
OL was down 3 starters. Considering the line is average when all 5 guys are playing, I can’t say I am shocked. I don’t think Saquon is quite right yet, either.
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RB Saquon Barkley, PHI (1 Viewer)
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The Frankman
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The Big Donkey
Footballguy
Yup, his pass protection looks awful too. He came back too soon from the high ankle sprain.
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Footballguy
Perhaps that s another reason to pass less. Its easy to spot when this team runs and when it passes.
The Big Donkey
Footballguy
Shurmur's play calling is not the best. Giants haven't had a 100+ yd rusher since weeks 1 and 2 (Barkley). I don't see that changing this year.
Team Smokin'
Footballguy
How concerned are we over Saquon? Enough to drop a viable Flex player to pick up Gallman, again....... as handcuff insurance.
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Footballguy
Concerned how? He practiced yesterday though they dont put out injury reports. If we are concerned about production, he is a pile of stink right now. He is worthy of a benching. He got 1 less yard rushing this past week on bye then he did the week prior against the Jets.
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Footballguy
Saquan should see the ball 30 times this week against a bad run D right now, but my guess is he wont see it 20.
This isnt about game script, you dictate the script against a team with a bad run D and a backup QB if you run, run and run again with Quan.
Dont throw to him as check downs, throw to him on as many of designed plays as possible. Say if Quan stinks this game, we lose.
Build a game plan around him for once, see what happens.
Team Smokin'
Footballguy
Injury reports aside, his injury seems to be the reason he has been a pile of stink right now. I mean talk of shutting him down was mentioned. His coach may have said no plans to shut him down, but if he's not quite "there" the NY Football Giants appear to be weighing their options.
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Gottabesweet
Footballguy
Might have a chance at acquiring him in redraft PPR for essentially Derrick Henry and Gallup (don’t use Gallup)
Are the three lineman that missed getting healthy? Is Barkley a good buy or will this injury linger. His Week 15 vs Miami looks nice.
Are the three lineman that missed getting healthy? Is Barkley a good buy or will this injury linger. His Week 15 vs Miami looks nice.
Kwai Chang Caine
Footballguy
Man I don’t think I’d do that? PPR or not, Henry has been a stud! I don’t think I’d make that trade even up let alone Gallup. Not with Barkley likely not 100% rest of year. Just my opinion of course...
-OZ-
Footballguy
Redraft I think I agree even if it sounds weird.
Dynasty would be a different story, not close there
Kwai Chang Caine
Footballguy
Agree 100% especially PPR but you have to think Henry has returned way more on investment this year in redraft considering their draft slots.
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fightingillini
Footballguy
Don't do that trade.
But if you don't use Gallup, definitely try and sell him now. The DAL schedule gets much more difficult.
Johnny B. Goode
Footballguy
The next 2 weeks are difficult, but the playoffs isnt bad. Not to mention Dallas may be in shoot outs, forced to pass, in many of these games. I'd say it bodes well for Gallup and not well for Cooper
Gottabesweet
Footballguy
Yeah, thanks. The deadline is Saturday. We are a short bench league, so I can easily replace Gallup with a Fuller type on waivers.
Back to Barkley it’s tough to figure out, now he has a shoulder issue to deal with, I’d hope his high ankle is close to healthy by now with two more weeks. You’d have to think they want to see a healthy Daniel Jones with Barkley.
Barkley gets Eagles 14 but should be good if you advance then gets Miami/Redskins
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Footballguy
Good luck Saquan. Hopefully you will see the ball a few times and get to have fun with it.
We live in the world where ARod hands off at the GL and Quan doesnt get the ball at the GL.
irish eyes
Footballguy
Can't imagine many teams that have Barkley made the playoffs. I'm one of them & he's been an absolute season killer. Mostly thanks to his awful coach & qb.
ffmail4me
Footballguy
His awful QB? Are you serious Clark??? Since week 3 when Jones got his first start, he's the 9th highest scoring QB in FF (at least in my leagues with 4 point passing TDs) He's also had injuries to his top WR and TE, and of course Barkley, for pretty much the entire time he's been a starter. I'd say a rookie that has outscored Rivers, Ryan, Brady, Wentz, Jimmy G, Goff, and more over the last 9 weeks is anything but "awful"
I'll make the playoffs and it's amazing that all us Barkley owners haven't had a single "explosion" game yet. It's got to happen one of these weeks. Hopefully in the playoffs.
Super King
Footballguy
How can you justify benching Barkley? If he blew up on my bench, I would sick to my stomach.
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Footballguy
I aint benching him, but tell me, is anyone confident that he will do anything other than 60 yards rushing tops with 3 catches for 21 yards.
12 Points is what I am hoping for, and I'm not holding my breath. I lack so much confidence in some what many would call stars lately. lol
irish eyes
Footballguy
What has he done this year. NOTHING, absolutely nothing. Not a single good game, why wouldn't you bench him. Hope doesn't win games. I'm benching him, his qb refuses to throw it to him. If Eli was playing, I would play him. Danny dimes is an idiot.
Don Hutson
Footballguy
Saquon is averaging 16.7 fantasy points per game which is 10th best. If you take out the game he got hurt, he is averaging 18.2 points per game which is 6th best. His last game is the only game he has scored less than 15 fantasy points with the exception of the game he got hurt. He has 33 receptions in 7 games. That would project to 75.4 receptions over 16 games.
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Team Smokin'
Footballguy
I wonder what it will take today to please Saquon owners to quiet the pessimistic talk next week on this thread? I would think his average of 16.7 today with hopes of 20+ for sure. He'll have to score at least once, and hopefully twice. He'll have to break a few long runs, catch 4-7 balls for a total of 150 scrimmage yards, and make the highlight reel. Oh, that could put him around 30 lol. Okay, 20 and we're all happy, 30 and we're giddy.
Giddy Up
And since I'm asking, you too Alvin
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EDIT: Okay, 25 for each lol. Yet the skies the limit for multi-TD's))
Giddy Up
And since I'm asking, you too Alvin
)))EDIT: Okay, 25 for each lol. Yet the skies the limit for multi-TD's
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-OZ-
Footballguy
There's a decent chance I bench him for gurley, Lindsey, Edelman and Gallup next week. It's not hard to imagine a team having the RBs to put him on the bench. And then watch him go off.Jones has had 3 big weeks. The rest of the time he's been pretty bad. But yes, he's playing well for a rookie with the injuries.
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Footballguy
When you have to feel hopeful about a guy who lit it up last year as a rookie and now barely puts up points, when we took him in the first round this year.
Biggest 1st round bust by far this year, bar none.
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Footballguy
I need him to perform like a top 5 pick, just once. JUST ONCE, before consider him a must start again.I wonder what it will take today to please Saquon owners to quiet the pessimistic talk next week on this thread? I would think his average of 16.7 today with hopes of 20+ for sure. He'll have to score at least once, and hopefully twice. He'll have to break a few long runs, catch 4-7 balls for a total of 150 scrimmage yards, and make the highlight reel. Oh, that could put him around 30 lol. Okay, 20 and we're all happy, 30 and we're giddy.
Giddy Up
And since I'm asking, you too Alvin
EDIT: Okay, 25 for each lol. Yet the skies the limit for multi-TD's
No, 25 points isnt pleasing. I need a guy who I took 3rd overall to have 20+ for the rest of the season with maybe one outlier.
I wont be pleased after this week, cuz even if he puts up 20 points, he would still be behind Lindsey for points this season if Lindsey got none. Todd Gurley has more points than Barkley.
Settling and being happy after one performance isnt gonna be good enough after the year he has had.
Reminder he got 1 yard last week, it can not be assumed that he will bounce back. Im sick of assuming stars will be stars. I am that guy, Im not celebrating names, I celebrate points.
If he cant do at least what Gurley did last week, he doesnt deserve to start again for anyones roster again. His name being Barkley doesnt get points.
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I-ROK
Footballguy
He has been awful for Barkley's value. On plays where Eli would have dumped it off to Barkley, Jones runs it himself. For a guy who was said to be a pocket passer and not a scrambler, he scrambles a lot (and quite well). He has been horrible for Barkley's value
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Team Smokin'
Footballguy
DITTO
I totally agree.
Minimum solid week today. Not pleased unless we see 18-20 the ROS to make him worth this high draft pick and a solid close to the season. Basically, he comes through and we get a W. Same next week and every week from here on out.
Oh, I didn't draft him #1 overall. I traded for him him to a desperate owner. I gave Montgomery & DJ Moore for Barkley & Westbrook. So far Barkley has been a big pile of nothing. Now it's time.
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Footballguy
Yes, Daniel Jones is an awful QB. Now, Yesterday and Tomorrow. For a rookie, for a vet for anyone. He is very very bad.
He had some good games, as I said that any scrub can have much like how I say some starts can have a big game every now and then, if they aint doing it consistently, they are just another player and dont stand out. I dont give any leeway to rookies, you are on an NFL field, you are playing in the NFL. The stat line dont care ur a rookie. He can get better, but now he is awful and they made a bad draft pick.
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Footballguy
Its ok to say what is taboo.
Football players only matter if they are putting of fantasy points. I will not care about any NFL player personally or if their team wins if they are not my favorite team. I'm a bad person, I get it. But I only care about Barkley if he puts up points. He doesnt put up points I say things like, why does he have any sponsorship's and why did the Giants waste a draft pick on a RB early? If Peterson beat his kid with a switch again, would they care as much now as it did when it happened? No, because he doesnt matter to fantasy. But then, you had people defending Peterson so they can have his stats. Fantasy football is what matters, not the player...the points matter. Now some will disagree, but I say what others never have the gall to say. Cuz I am not here to win moral points, just SBs. Perhaps thats why Im so triggered, bout to miss my first playoffs in over 10 years cuz guys who you cant bench because their name is Barkley has cost me with their suckitude. lol
I dont have the sunday ticket so I can watch that sweet Jax vs Ten game today, I have it to see if LFournette can get his 2nd TD in week 12. Points, not names and teams.
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I-ROK
Footballguy
Who is they? The NFL? The NFL doesnt care about fantasy. You mean fantasy owners? Then sure they would care. Walton got a bunch of posts after his latest incident. To your point, it wasnt pages and pages of debate like Tyreek Hill was, because Walton isnt a star. If that's what you mean, then I agree.
To the second bolded...
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Footballguy
"They" are Peterson owners at the time. The NFL does care about fantasy, to think they dont with everything they have done to cater to fantasy is mind boggling. People subscribe fto the ticket for fantasy, very few subscribe to watch their favorite team as its always on locally. Walton stinks, you caught my point as it was and you said you agree, so need to go on there. I kinda pointed "the point to me" out when I, myself, said Im triggered. lolWho is they? The NFL? The NFL doesnt care about fantasy. You mean fantasy owners? Then sure they would care. Walton got a bunch of posts after his latest incident. To your point, it wasnt pages and pages of debate like Tyreek Hill was, because Walton isnt a star. If that's what you mean, then I agree.
To the second bolded...
I dont want to knock thread of rail anymore, but Barkley needs to perform better, if he doesnt, he is just becoming another scrub fantasy player regardless of talent. The big problem is the coach not giving him the ball, but that all goes into fantasy impact.
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I-ROK
Footballguy
I'd say the NFL doesn't care about fantasy when it comes to player issues, such as AP beating his child. At that point they only care about their brand/image. It seems we are on the same page in general
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Footballguy
No longer a fantasy asset. He has some value in dyno, but if he is on this team for the next 3 years, I dont know how much that can be worth.
ConnSKINS26
Footballguy
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Footballguy
31 Rush yards, after a week he had 1 rush yard. 8 points last week, 3 right now.
Whats the worth? Vita Vea currently has more points. I understand the love of his talent, but his fantasy worth? Nonexiistant.
