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RB Kareem Hunt, CLE (10 Viewers)
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unckeyherb
Footballguy
Anyone rolling him out? No idea what is to be expected from him.
I see him as a high upside handcuff at this point. I wouldn't start him in his first game out. I would want to see his usage before committing to playing him.
Stompin' Tom Connors
Footballguy
Honestly this is one of the most intriguing backfield situations for ROS.
Chubb, in my mind is elite.
Hunt, in my mind, has also been elite.
This could go so many ways in terms of how splits are handled, how they adjust based on performance, etc.
I don't own shares in either of these guys but am inexplicably fascinated as if I was on one side of the fence or not.
My feeling is that Hunt is used for breathers, but can easily see him exploding in a game or two forcing a very interesting dilemma for Kitchens, as well as for fantasy owners.
Chubb, in my mind is elite.
Hunt, in my mind, has also been elite.
This could go so many ways in terms of how splits are handled, how they adjust based on performance, etc.
I don't own shares in either of these guys but am inexplicably fascinated as if I was on one side of the fence or not.
My feeling is that Hunt is used for breathers, but can easily see him exploding in a game or two forcing a very interesting dilemma for Kitchens, as well as for fantasy owners.
The x factor is the total ineptitude of the Cleveland coaching staff to utilize talent in the right way.Honestly this is one of the most intriguing backfield situations for ROS.
Chubb, in my mind is elite.
Hunt, in my mind, has also been elite.
This could go so many ways in terms of how splits are handled, how they adjust based on performance, etc.
I don't own shares in either of these guys but am inexplicably fascinated as if I was on one side of the fence or not.
My feeling is that Hunt is used for breathers, but can easily see him exploding in a game or two forcing a very interesting dilemma for Kitchens, as well as for fantasy owners.
saintfool
Dead sexy
Hunt was pretty elite for KC, Tom. Personally, I think this offense may look its best when it is run-oriented. It protects Baker and limits mistakes. When you have two elite RBs - with different but complimentary skills sets - then you find a way to use them. Kitchens can see this with the gameplan in NO with Ingram and Kamara in previous years. He has the horses to do this.Honestly this is one of the most intriguing backfield situations for ROS.
Chubb, in my mind is elite.
Hunt, in my mind, has also been elite.
This could go so many ways in terms of how splits are handled, how they adjust based on performance, etc.
I don't own shares in either of these guys but am inexplicably fascinated as if I was on one side of the fence or not.
My feeling is that Hunt is used for breathers, but can easily see him exploding in a game or two forcing a very interesting dilemma for Kitchens, as well as for fantasy owners.
Are you sure Kitchens can see this? There is nothing so far this year that says he can utilize his horses properly.
saintfool
Dead sexy
I'm not sure Kitchen is the right coach or playcaller. People are entirely too quick to overlook just how good Hunt was in KC. Chubb is a different style of RB but no less effective for sure. He's been the best thing about the Cleveland offense thusfar and some folks are very protective of that notion. Viewing Hunt as a COP or to spell Chubb - entirely possible from Kitchens, I guess - is shortsighted. If Hunt can shake off the rust then he can be every bit the playmaker that Cleveland needs.
DallasDMac
Footballguy
Easier for Cleveland to utilize Hunt now that the team's record blows. Had they been the 6-2 team everyone was clamoring about in preseason, it may have been tough to sit Chubb and bring Hunt in. Now that the team is mired in obscurity and irrelevance, no one outside of FF will care.
wgoldsph
Footballguy
I am in a league over already thrown the towel on. But I'm also still rolling out Murray, so that doesn't say much.
Hunt this season is a showcase for where he plays next year.
IIRC, Hunt is a RFA after this season, so the Browns could easily keep him.wgoldsph said:
I think Hunt sees more work than Chubb owners would like, but maybe not enough to be a good option himself. Think Jones/Williams, but in a worse offense. Maybe 60/40 Chubb.
I'd be very surprised if Hunt only got the Duke Johnson/Dontrell Hilliard pass catching only snaps. Hunt is a much greater threat to Chubb than those guys were.
Browns will have to match an offer, chances are he's going to be worth more to other teams than he is to them, so while it's possible the Browns spend to keep him, that seems somewhat unlikely.
Could they not tender him at a 1st or 2nd round level, or because he was a FA signing, does it not work the same way as it does with your usual RFA?
FreeBaGeL
Footballguy
But the other team would have to give a pick up on top of signing him to that deal, so the question is more whether those other teams are willing to offer it than whether the Browns are willing to match, especially given that pick will be in the range where you could draft a really strong RB this year and pay him a lot less.
Browns can easily afford to pay him a 3rd round tender ($2.1mil) and can pretty easily afford a 2nd ($3.3mil) if they decide they want to.
At that point is anyone going to give up a 2nd round pick AND sign Hunt to a decent sized deal?
Concept Coop
Footballguy
I could see a team giving up a 2nd to sign Hunt. He doesn’t have much leverage and would come pretty cheap. A 2nd and a Mark Ingram sized contract seems like a real possibility for a few teams. And I think Cleveland would be happy to take the pick in that scenario.
Concept Coop
Footballguy
trader jake
Footballguy
Hilliard had 7 touches last week and 5 the week before. That would seem like the floor for Hunt. I'd guess over 8.
unckeyherb
Footballguy
Stompin' Tom Connors
Footballguy
Another reason why I think Hunt gets some meaningful split ROS if he shows he's back to form.wgoldsph said:
I believe there were two reasons why the club signed him in the first place:
1) they like the dual back approach -- attempts were split last year between Hyde and Chubb, which was a big departure from the way they used Crowell in the past. Guess it's possible that they might revert back to leaning on one back, but their usage of Chubb this year seems to refute that's the direction they want to go in.
2) They wanted to give Hunt, who was born in CLE, a second chance in his hometown. Cleveland general manager John Dorsey was the GM in Kansas City from 2013 to 2017. It was his front office drafted Hunt in 2017. I think the FO really like Hunt as a player and believe in him, and thus will be incented to do right by him upon his return -- giving him his shot on the team or in showcasing himself for another team next year.
Going to really be interesting.
Statorama
gangster
I own him and I'm treating him like Alexander Mattison.
Bills are a middle of the road rush defense, but I'd still lean under.
The Browns have played 8 games and rushed 187 times (23 RPG). On an average Sunday I cringe at the thought of the split being Chubb 14 carries / Hunt 9.....but at least they'd both be fresh for the playoffs.
DallasDMac
Footballguy
What’s that? Ah - Playoffs? Don’t talk about - playoffs? You kidding me? Playoffs? I just hope we can win a game!
rockaction
Footballguy
I need an RB with McCoy as the only other option to fill the position in a many-positioned league, so yeah, I think I'm doing it. I'm really hoping that he breaks a screen pass for about forty or so yards and then gets a few other touches to call it a day.
That's my hope.
But it's better than watching Andy symbolically flog McCoy for his fumble in Green Bay two weeks ago.
Bracie Smathers
Footballguy
Kareem Hunt is back and the Browns return home
If he's available the time to pick him up is now because the Browns play on Thursday Night so if he does anything today he may be tougher to land by Thursday.
rockaction
Footballguy
One has to think, though, that with Chubb's year, he's still got to demand as big a share as he's getting now. From there, it becomes up to Hunt to outplay him in limited playing time.
(I roster Hunt, not Chubb, so my argument isn't self-defeating nor rose-colored, I think.)
(I roster Hunt, not Chubb, so my argument isn't self-defeating nor rose-colored, I think.)
The Frankman
Footballguy
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unckeyherb
Footballguy
He did exactly what I expected, and kept me in it with all of my byes this week. He's good enough that I think he continues to see carries and receptions. 9 targets for the first time out of the gate was nice.
rockaction
Footballguy
Game script broke right for him. Also got me through a bye. Hope this continues moving forward.
DocHolliday
Footballguy
Hunt is a very talented RB and is going to get touches. That does hurt Chubb some but it may help keep Chubb healthy for the rest of the season.
For having not played in a year AND coming back from her is surgery, he looked fantastic
MAC_32
Footballguy
This keeps getting written and said, but there is no evidence to suggest it will actually happen. The Browns did not have an unusual amount of snaps yesterday and there was Chubb with his customary 20+ touches. Hunt's snaps and touches were at the expense of Hilliard and Callaway, as they should.
unckeyherb
Footballguy
rockaction
Footballguy
Thanks.
Chubb got a lot of touches yesterday. I figured he'd (Hunt) eat into Hilliard, but Callaway? He did line up at receiver several times I saw, but I figured that would have been Higgins, who, no surprise, got a touchdown yesterday as not a healthy scratch.
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MAC_32
Footballguy
As long as he doesn't screw up between now and tender date, probably. It sounds like Dorsey wants him back, so given the quality of this RB class I think it will be difficult for teams to justify trading a 2 or a 3 and giving him a new contract. I think the only question from the Browns perspective is whether to give him the 2nd round or original pick tender. If someone else really wants him and gives him a contract the Browns won't match then take the draft pick compensation and intend to pick a RB sometime in the top 75. I doubt that happens though.
Concept Coop
Footballguy
We often hear coaches talk about getting two backs on the field at the same time, but it rarely happens with any consistency. It was fun to watch on Sunday. Hopefully it holds.
wgoldsph
Footballguy
The Frankman
Footballguy
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