I thought this last year.I think he will be fine. Probably needs another year or to sit at the pro level a season or 2. He def has tbe "it" factor.
He has an odd-shaped head as well...I do not want a pudgy ginger Q.B.ing my team. Maybe Washington will pick him and give him Sonny Jurgenson's old number. There was a pudgy ginger with a screwed up delivery.
trust me, i KNOW that one game does not make.... But you're hyped as one of the most special QBs is a long while, you're playing in front of the nation, all eyes on you pre-draft....He was under pressure all night and made some special throws. He had a down year this year and perhaps is not what he was made out to be last year. Still, he’s better than what he showed last night.
Odd shaped head = Positive NFL QB attribute.He has an odd-shaped head as well...
Reminds me of things said about Derek Carr 3 years ago.trust me, i KNOW that one game does not make.... But you're hyped as one of the most special QBs is a long while, you're playing in front of the nation, all eyes on you pre-draft....
And THAT is your performance?
I honestly don't know if it could have gone worse, and teams likely PLUMMETED him on their boards... And rightfully so.
I was in awe,last night. and not the good kind.
No its not. He is about as bad as it gets and there's no improvement. He's Brock level.Its to soon to give up on Kizer But competition would be good
He would be a top 3 pick possible #1 depending on combine and private workouts. Kid has it allMake no mistake, if Darnold comes out, he will be a high first round pick.
Yes- he was underwhelming last night. But- the total body of work is still very solid. Remember how great he was against Penn St. last year.
I think all of us, myself included, tend to overreact to small sample sizes.
He looked a lot better before losing 1/2 his OL.Cold on this kid all season long, and held a glimmer of hope he'd ball out tonite...
This kid is going to be an ultimate bust in the NFL. I just feel it.
You?
He should but I think he comes out.In the end, I think he stays in college one more year. After yesterday, especially.
"PLUMMETED"? Really?trust me, i KNOW that one game does not make.... But you're hyped as one of the most special QBs is a long while, you're playing in front of the nation, all eyes on you pre-draft....
And THAT is your performance?
I honestly don't know if it could have gone worse, and teams likely PLUMMETED him on their boards... And rightfully so.
I was in awe,last night. and not the good kind.
Cle, NYG, DEN and NYJ likely the 4 teams who will take a QB, in the top 10."PLUMMETED"? Really?
Are you actually suggesting he's not going to be a top 10 pick?
"Plummeted" is a bit of an exaggeration for a qb needy team to drop him from 1/2 to 3/4 on their list. I think you're nuts to suggest he won't be one of the top 3 qb's taken.Cle, NYG, DEN and NYJ likely the 4 teams who will take a QB, in the top 10.
Rosen, Allen, Darnold, Jackson, Mayfield the top 5 QBs
One will be left out, and it could legit be any of the 5, imo.
Personally, Im not overly sold on ANY of them, but have a really good feeling about Mayfield, and hope that's who CLE takes.
Anyways... yes. Conceivable he drops out of the top 10
No not really. Lamar Jackson is not going anywhere close to top 10 and if you see a mock draft that says so I'd throw it in the trash.Cle, NYG, DEN and NYJ likely the 4 teams who will take a QB, in the top 10.
Rosen, Allen, Darnold, Jackson, Mayfield the top 5 QBs
One will be left out, and it could legit be any of the 5, imo.
Personally, Im not overly sold on ANY of them, but have a really good feeling about Mayfield, and hope that's who CLE takes.
Anyways... yes. Conceivable he drops out of the top 10
Winston had a good season, overall. Darnold looked lost.
Stats aside, when you watched Winston's final season and Darnold's, did u say to yourself "Darnold looked better"?Darnolds stats and QB rating his two seasons are almost idential to Winston's two years. Both of them were better their first season then their second, but Winston's final season was the worse than the season Darnold just had.
Come on, the next Rodgers? I don't care who the qb is coming out of college, they are always closer to a bust then an all time great.He looked a lot better before losing 1/2 his OL.
I suspect he’s closer to the next Aaron Rodgers who falls in the draft and becomes an outstanding QB.
He has all the tools - depends on who drafts him. If it’s Cleveland, he’ll probably be terrible since the Browns are where talent at QB goes to die.
I thought they looked similar. Both share same similar major issue of turning the ball over to much but both also showed traits of being long term franchise QB's. I tend to focus on traits more than anything else.Stats aside, when you watched Winston's final season and Darnold's, did u say to yourself "Darnold looked better"?
I absolutely hate Winston, but Im definitely gonna say he looked much better than Darnold
Darnold could have had 2-3 more balls picked yesterday. It was mindblowing.Both share same similar major issue of turning the ball over to much
I only meant he might fall in the draft and be better than his draft spot.Come on, the next Rodgers? I don't care who the qb is coming out of college, they are always closer to a bust then an all time great.
The hitch reminds me of Rivers a bit. Still gets it out quick.From Sports Illustrated:
“He has a slight hitch, a wind-up in his throw, and he does stare down receivers,” said one veteran evaluator. “He’s still learning to read defenses. This is a young kid. Not ready for primetime yet...”
You left out the fumbles."Plummeted" is a bit of an exaggeration for a qb needy team to drop him from 1/2 to 3/4 on their list. I think you're nuts to suggest he won't be one of the top 3 qb's taken.
Also, Bowl games don't necessarily plummet stocks.
Winston's Bowl Game: 29-45. 348 Yards. 1 TD. 1 Int. -15 Rushing yards.
Darnold's Bowl Game: 26-45. 354 Yards. 0 TD. 1 Int. -18 Rushing yards.
His OL was decimated. I’m not saying he’s the greatest thing since sliced bread, but he’s nowhere near as bad as he’s looked.What a huge step back this year. Coaching staff did him no favors with their moronic playcalling but he looks bad. No way I take this guy in the draft unless he falls far
Will be a bust. But has the tools to be a stud.Actually you did. The title of the thread you created "The next great bust." I am pretty sure that is a period, not a question mark.
Allen was an average college qb in a weak conference and played poorly against good competition.Cle, NYG, DEN and NYJ likely the 4 teams who will take a QB, in the top 10.
Rosen, Allen, Darnold, Jackson, Mayfield the top 5 QBs
One will be left out, and it could legit be any of the 5, imo.
Personally, Im not overly sold on ANY of them, but have a really good feeling about Mayfield, and hope that's who CLE takes.
Anyways... yes. Conceivable he drops out of the top 10