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*Official 2019 Philadelphia Eagles Thread* - Season's over; Go Away Now... (3 Viewers)

Also, if Carson gave himself up on the 2 pt conversion, wouldn't that make the tackles late hits with a 15 yard personal foul? So they'd replay the down.

That whole rule is just dumb as hell.
yeah, listened to Birds with Friends podcast this morning and this was exactly the point Bo Wulf brought up. Also mentioned how this rule in the NFL applies with a QB sneak. 

 
Can we just talk about the Clement fumble for a second? I don't mind most fumbles, but fumbles where the runner is carrying the ball in the wrong hand?! Clement got the kickoff, went to his right and kept the ball in his upfield (left) hand. So of course when someone hits him, they hit the ball and he fumbles. So unnecessary since running backs are taught since Pop Warner to carry the ball in the outside hand. Ryan Mathews did the same thing 3 years ago when we were protecting a lead late against Detroit and we lost because he fumbled giving the Lions the opportunity to score and win the game. I hate players who make mistakes because they don't follow the fundamentals.
hard to say. he left the game in a sling, so somewhere on that play his shoulder got banged up real good. 

 
Seumolo was lined up against Grady Jackson right? Being graded the worst OL is pretty sucky, but at the same time Grady is one of the best DL guys out there. 

 
Doug did say he thinks Goedert, Alshon and DeSean could have "gutted it out" if the game was a must-win.

Doug Pederson was asked what #Eagles found were causes for slow offensive starts last season and why they're still happening: "I just have to find the magical plays," he said. Just the plays or also execution? "It's always the plays. That's on me. I got to do a better job."

Doug Pederson: Haven’t had medical meeting yet. Has no updates on injuries. #Eagles

 
Announcers keep talking over and over again about all the talent on this Eagles team.  I think maybe they just aren't as good as people rate them as. Age is catching up to them hard.

 
Insein said:
Also, if Carson gave himself up on the 2 pt conversion, wouldn't that make the tackles late hits with a 15 yard personal foul? So they'd replay the down.

That whole rule is just dumb as hell.
Yes the NFLofficail twitter page fans asked that and its getting completely ignored. 

 
dhockster said:
Can we just talk about the Clement fumble for a second? I don't mind most fumbles, but fumbles where the runner is carrying the ball in the wrong hand?! Clement got the kickoff, went to his right and kept the ball in his upfield (left) hand. So of course when someone hits him, they hit the ball and he fumbles. So unnecessary since running backs are taught since Pop Warner to carry the ball in the outside hand. Ryan Mathews did the same thing 3 years ago when we were protecting a lead late against Detroit and we lost because he fumbled giving the Lions the opportunity to score and win the game. I hate players who make mistakes because they don't follow the fundamentals.
I still don't get why we don't have actual experienced KR specialist. Why is Clement and Sanders out there and last year we had Smallwood. It's why I kind of wanted Micheal Campanoro the Former Bal WR. He's more of a return specialist. Just mind boggling to me 

 
modogg said:
hard to say. he left the game in a sling, so somewhere on that play his shoulder got banged up real good. 
Rap is reporting a shoulder sprain but team will know more as the week goes. Said he could be out a week or two at most 

 
Bigboy10182000 said:
Tim Jernigan broke his foot and will miss at least a month. That’s the #2 and 3 DT’s down now. 
It's apparently a mild crack. My Co workers Its a fairly small fracture but hurts like a ##### still. My co workers son explained it to me as it was similar crack as when I hurt my foot last April with the manual jack at work. if you didn't know the person Xray you were looking at they were trying to see a fracture you'd never know 

 
It's apparently a mild crack. My Co workers Its a fairly small fracture but hurts like a ##### still. My co workers son explained it to me as it was similar crack as when I hurt my foot last April with the manual jack at work. if you didn't know the person Xray you were looking at they were trying to see a fracture you'd never know 
I'd imagine any kind of foot crack on a 300lb man is excruciating.

 
Just got a blurb that Jernigan could be out for the season. DL getting very thin all of a sudden.
This was from John Clarke an hour ago. It doesn't seem like he'll be out that long 

‪I can confirm that Tim Jernigan did break his foot but I’m told it is a small crack. Will not require surgery. Will miss a month or so‬

‪#Eagles ‬

 
modogg said:
yeah, listened to Birds with Friends podcast this morning and this was exactly the point Bo Wulf brought up. Also mentioned how this rule in the NFL applies with a QB sneak. 
it wouldnt because QB isn't actually diving toward the ground.

Hate the rule just as much as you do, but if not apples to oranges comparison, it's at least peaches to nectarines

Also, I kind of think this was an unintended consequence of a rule change. I think it's a safe bet they never intended this to be called on a goal line dive. It makes sense in the middle of the field where the QB is clearly diving away from a tackle to avoid getting hit (which many QBs do...they don't all slide well and diving while more dangerous to the noggin is safer to the legs/knees). Also would like to see the exact verbiage of the rule...wouldn't be shocked to find the officials applied it incorrectly

 
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I'd imagine any kind of foot crack on a 300lb man is excruciating.
yeah it is I'm just speaking from experience though of cracking my toe last year. It sucks. You'd be surprised if you've only broken a bone big time. Some people who get the slightest fracture will even say they were better off breaking that bone fully. Mine hurt so bad I had to use one of those handicap carts the customers used to move around and get into a car so my dad could drive me to the hospital 

 
I feel like injuries have plagued us the last 3 seasons. Bad luck I guess. 

I want new CBs next year. Not sure why there were no changes made during the off-season but I’m so tired of getting beat deep. 

 
I'll give you a Minka and Raise you a Ramsey. Jalen Ramsey is seeking a trade from JAX 
I would rather Minkah.  He's going to be way cheaper both in the amount we pay him and the amount we pay FOR him.  2nd year of a rookie deal is such a good value in today's NFL (as long as there's no hold out)

 
I would rather Minkah.  He's going to be way cheaper both in the amount we pay him and the amount we pay FOR him.  2nd year of a rookie deal is such a good value in today's NFL (as long as there's no hold out)
Minkah just got traded to Pitt for a 2020 1st 

 
Minkah just got traded to Pitt for a 2020 1st 
Yep.  Insane.  We couldnt/shouldnt have paid that much.  We would have had to do 2 1sts probably and don't think he's worth that. 

That's potentially a top 5 pick. Great return by Miami. Not sure why pitt would do that. 

 
Yep.  Insane.  We couldnt/shouldnt have paid that much.  We would have had to do 2 1sts probably and don't think he's worth that. 

That's potentially a top 5 pick. Great return by Miami. Not sure why pitt would do that. 
What a great trade for miami

 
Yep.  Insane.  We couldnt/shouldnt have paid that much.  We would have had to do 2 1sts probably and don't think he's worth that. 

That's potentially a top 5 pick. Great return by Miami. Not sure why pitt would do that. 
I'd like to imagine Roseman was offering a 1st as well (no idea), but after Ben going out of course Miami would jump on that.

 
I'd like to imagine Roseman was offering a 1st as well (no idea), but after Ben going out of course Miami would jump on that.
Probably the case.  Don't blame Miami at all for taking Pits offer, and I don't even feel bad for missing out.

It's like Blind Bidding in Fantasy.  Sucks when you miss on your player to a guy that bid $1 more than you, but feels okay to lose him if he went for double what you bid. 

 
On the surface it looks bad but hat’s a franchise I’ve learned to trust so I’m going to see how this plays out moving forward. 
Nah.  As a Steelers fan, I agree with Deamon.  It was a really, really dumb and risky move.  This is a team that has pretty much never made a splash in the trade market.  All of a sudden they trade away a potential top 10 or top 5 pick for a corner (with a defensive coordinator who will probably waste him away).  It was likely just a panic move.  

 
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Nah.  As a Steelers fan, I agree with Deamon.  It was a really, really dumb and risky move.  This is a team that has pretty much never made a splash in the trade market.  All of a sudden they trade away a potential top 10 or top 5 pick for a corner (with a defensive coordinator who will probably waste him away).  It was likely just a panic move.  
Yea really weird. Steelers are usually pretty sound when it comes to protecting draft picks. Very panicked move considering the extreme need at QB they have going forward.

 
Yea really weird. Steelers are usually pretty sound when it comes to protecting draft picks. Very panicked move considering the extreme need at QB they have going forward.
I guess since they just extended him for 3 years, there's no way they're cutting him this offseason - so if they know they have him next year, they already determined they weren't gonna draft a QB in the 1st? 

 
Yea really weird. Steelers are usually pretty sound when it comes to protecting draft picks. Very panicked move considering the extreme need at QB they have going forward.
I don't love the move but it's only an extreme move if Rudolph doesn't pan out at all (I mean he would have to show in the next 14 games that he is definitely not the long term answer).  He has a full year to showcase his ability.  He's looked good in his limited action and he's had time to learn the system.  If he ends up being good, the trade will end up being a steal.  If the opposite, it will end up being a bad trade.  Personally I just think it's a pretty big gamble.  But this is truly a trade that can't be evaluated right now.

 
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Well moving on form Fitz to Ramsey :)

Still would do a 1st.  More then that - maybe? We'd have to shell out a new contact right away but still. We're gonna have a lot of money come free next year.

 
Well moving on form Fitz to Ramsey :)

Still would do a 1st.  More then that - maybe? We'd have to shell out a new contact right away but still. We're gonna have a lot of money come free next year.
CB is one of the positions they've shown they are willing to invest in. 

 
I guess since they just extended him for 3 years, there's no way they're cutting him this offseason - so if they know they have him next year, they already determined they weren't gonna draft a QB in the 1st? 
Yea but he did think about retiring just last year. 

 
Per NFL Trade Rumors, the Jags are looking for 2 firsts.
Cant see it happening for 2 firsts plus the contract he's going to need to get. I honestly think the contract is probably a bigger hurdle for us than the draft picks will be. I'd bet the jags would take a 1 and 2 or a 1 and 3 for Ramsey because I can't see anyone giving them 2 firsts. Nothing wrong with asking for the moon after what Miami got for tunsil though. 

 

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