Was just about to post this.
The actions of a few obnoxious knuckleheads represents the entirety of the fan base though, right?
Yep exactly.Was just about to post this.
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nailed it—If this happened in Philly they’d be talking about it for decades.
Now add those cap hits lolHurts: 23-43, 258, 1 TD, 2 INT
Prescott: 23-43, 254, 1 TD, 1 INT, 1 FUM
Well he handed the ball to his center instead of the ref so he may not be the brightest.Cowboys QB Dak Prescott disparaged fans for throwing bottles, debris at players. Then Prescott was told the fans were aiming for officiating crew. Prescott retracted. “A credit to them then.”
Stay classy, Dak.
RE: Hurts1. I’m ok with him being the starter next year but I’m not expecting any playoff wins.
2. Would take Watson if the offer was decent
3. I’m good if they want to take a Picket/Ridder/Strong but ONLY if they fall.
Im not locked into any of these.
And the last is with Garrett being kept way too long.Via John Kryk:
Number of NFL playoff wins over the last 25 seasons: #NYJets 7, #Cowboys 3.
Number of conference championship games reached over the last 25 seasons: #NYJets 3, #Cowboys 0.
Number of head coaches over the last 25 seasons: #NYJets 8, #Cowboys 7.
Btw, Dak’s new deal kicks in next year: $35MM cap hit. Then $46MM, then $49MM.
Hurts: 23-43, 258, 1 TD, 2 INT
Prescott: 23-43, 254, 1 TD, 1 INT, 1 FUM
I think that is the right way to look at it. He’s good enough that they don’t need to reach or overpay in desperation to get a QB but not so good that they should pass up a chance to upgrade for the right price.RE: Hurts
I think that is the right way to look at it. He’s good enough that they don’t need to reach or overpay in desperation to get a QB but not so good that they should pass up a chance to upgrade for the right price.
I agree with everything besides Watson. Would touch him with a 10 foot pole. Let him being some other teams problemRE: Hurts
I still say Menshew is better. I think they are trying not to make the same mistake they made when they hurt Wentz’s feelings- to their own detriment.I think that is the right way to look at it. He’s good enough that they don’t need to reach or overpay in desperation to get a QB but not so good that they should pass up a chance to upgrade for the right price.
I still say Menshew is better. I think they are trying not to make the same mistake they made when they hurt Wentz’s feelings- to their own detriment.
Telling your backup that he doesn’t even have a chance to get the job even if he’s better in practice is — no bueno.
Possibly. I’m just going off what one of you guys posted.Are we even sure it was an absolute no chance as the answer though? What I got out of it was I think Mort sugar coated that or his source did to try and get a bigger story then needed. Not saying he was told no but the whole Zero chance thing just doesn't sound right.
Possibly. I’m just going off what one of you guys posted.
Even so- I don’t want to come off as a biased Cowboys fan, I am really trying to be objective here. I just think Hurts is awful.
The Cowboys organization has rubbed off on him I see. Makes it even easier to watch his failures.Cowboys QB Dak Prescott disparaged fans for throwing bottles, debris at players. Then Prescott was told the fans were aiming for officiating crew. Prescott retracted. “A credit to them then.”
Stay classy, Dak.
And it's amazing how fast things change. I remember just a couple years ago someone who was Giants or WFT fan commented something like, "At least you have a solid QB for the next five years or so."As much as we may not think Hurts is the future, we need to realize just how HARD it is to find a productive franchise QB. Looking at the 16 NFC teams, how many know who their starter will be next year?
Have their QB for the next 2+ Years
Rams
Cardinals
Bears
Bucs?
Next year is okay, but unsure past that.
Cowboys
Eagles
Falcons
Giants?
Unknown who will start next year:
Packers
Vikings
Lions
Niners
Seahawks
WFT
Saints
Panthers
man, i really hope not with the bolded. always have a chance when facing McCarthyMan that game was rough to watch. I say keep all 3 1s unless you can get Rodgers. No Wilson. No Deshaun.
Sign a big body X like A Rob. Reagor gotta go. Gannon gotta go. Barnett gotta go.
Draft defense. Over and over.
Nice to see Dallas be themselves and crap the bed at home once again, then blame the fans, then try to pelt the refs.
That fanbase seems to be getting "more violent?" I dunno I remember some rival Pats fan got murdered in the same parking lot of this stadium like 10-12 years back right?
Dallas assuredly is going to fire McCarthy and promote Kellen Moore without a doubt.
Season is over, doesn't matter. Big changes for each team coming this offseason.You guys need some levity. Do the Cowboys stink? Yes.
Are you better than them?
currently no. Cowboys WRs are 4x better than the Eagles, and the disparity there is huge. RBs may be a push, and OL i give edge to the Eagles if all the guys come back next year. QB Cowboys have advantage as far as one season playing, but Eagles have advantage contract and salary cap wise.You guys need some levity. Do the Cowboys stink? Yes.
Are you better than them?
I wouldn’t say we are better than Dallas. With that said, it’s 1/17/21 and both teams are homeYou guys need some levity. Do the Cowboys stink? Yes.
Are you better than them?
Yeah, I’m not here to bash your team.I wouldn’t say we are better than Dallas. With that said, it’s 1/17/21 and both teams are home![]()
Pretty much where I am too. Cut the dumbasses, cut some losses on players perhaps, and trading is what Howie loves to do. Should be an exciting offseason given how much cap space we "should" have and the trio of 1st rounders.i think this is sliding toward the awful takes on the NBA these days, and we really need to remember that NFL is a team game. Brady is nowhere if that Bucs defense isn't stellar yesterday.
that being said, looking at Hurts yesterday, he takes some blame. but i like to think if some of the easily fixable mistakes were not present. Let's say the goofy Kelce holding penalty, and Goedert catches that pass that hits him in his hands, and Raegor doesn't muff that punt, does Hurts look better overall yesterday?
i say yes. he has some culpability, and needs to improve on his play. but i will be maddeningly frustrated if the Eagles sacrifice the future assets they got with those 1st round picks and the salary cap they finally seem to have built into a better situation, by getting an old veteran QB that will cost a ton against the salary cap and force us to give up the future assets.
Not saying Hurts is the future at all, but i would hold off on any panic move either. he is an NFL QB, and the team isn't a top QB away from getting to the Super Bowl. Build your other areas of need, and if Hurts sucks next year then you have your 1st round pick (ideally 2 because i for one am all for trading one of their picks this year for an addl. pick next year), and will presumably have cap room to get a QB if you desperately need one. build up the offense a bit, so if this scenario occurs you have an attractive offensive situation a QB would want to come to.
And it's amazing how fast things change. I remember just a couple years ago someone who was Giants or WFT fan commented something like, "At least you have a solid QB for the next five years or so."
He was referring to Wentz.
it's hard to say. at that time, with the info we as fans had, i still think it was the right call and he got him for cheaper than siilar QBs in similar situations.We probably did but we screwed that up big time.
Cowboys have Dak for at least 3 years. 5th day of 2022 league year, an additional 31 mil guarantees. They had to include 2 void years to spread out the hit. The dead money if they got rid of him sooner would be crippling. They might kick the can further down the road and convert 2022 base to bonus.As much as we may not think Hurts is the future, we need to realize just how HARD it is to find a productive franchise QB. Looking at the 16 NFC teams, how many know who their starter will be next year?
Have their QB for the next 2+ Years
Rams
Cardinals
Bears
Bucs?
Next year is okay, but unsure past that.
Cowboys
Eagles
Falcons
Giants?
Unknown who will start next year:
Packers
Vikings
Lions
Niners
Seahawks
WFT
Saints
Panthers
i think this is sliding toward the awful takes on the NBA these days, and we really need to remember that NFL is a team game. Brady is nowhere if that Bucs defense isn't stellar yesterday.
that being said, looking at Hurts yesterday, he takes some blame. but i like to think if some of the easily fixable mistakes were not present. Let's say the goofy Kelce holding penalty, and Goedert catches that pass that hits him in his hands, and Raegor doesn't muff that punt, does Hurts look better overall yesterday?
i say yes. he has some culpability, and needs to improve on his play. but i will be maddeningly frustrated if the Eagles sacrifice the future assets they got with those 1st round picks and the salary cap they finally seem to have built into a better situation, by getting an old veteran QB that will cost a ton against the salary cap and force us to give up the future assets.
Not saying Hurts is the future at all, but i would hold off on any panic move either. he is an NFL QB, and the team isn't a top QB away from getting to the Super Bowl. Build your other areas of need, and if Hurts sucks next year then you have your 1st round pick (ideally 2 because i for one am all for trading one of their picks this year for an addl. pick next year), and will presumably have cap room to get a QB if you desperately need one. build up the offense a bit, so if this scenario occurs you have an attractive offensive situation a QB would want to come to.
it's hard to say. at that time, with the info we as fans had, i still think it was the right call and he got him for cheaper than siilar QBs in similar situations.
where the screw up would have been is if the Eagles team and front office had any inkling that Wentz would be where he is now, and if they had hints that he was, for lack of better word, "soft" with getting so offended with Howie grabbing Hurts, and all the locker room talk and rumors with him not throwing to WRs, etc.
either way, glad the mistake was fixed pretty quickly. looking at most other teams, their biggest downfall is not taking the big hits like Howie does to fix those errors faster. Rams did well getting off Goff, and we all saw what that cost. but countless other teams have those errors and make them worse by not taking an immediate loss to fix it in the long run
For us hoping Hurts can develop into a "Dak-level" QB - Is that what we want? Dak seems like a fine youngish QB, but the same issues that plagued him early still plague him now (accuracy) and still has to rely on his legs to get him into the next tier or 2 of QB's - basically both QB's are less effective as pocket only QB's.
Now I do think Jalen can improve for sure, but if his max ceiling is Dak (I know some are hoping for Russ wilson development eventually), I'm not sure i"m comfortable with that each year in/out. Would rather just tear it down early vs finding out too late.
Just playing some Devil's Advocate here.
I’d take Dak over Hurts in a minute. I don’t put a lot of blame on Dak for yesterdays game either. Their mental errors and OL lost them that game.For us hoping Hurts can develop into a "Dak-level" QB - Is that what we want? Dak seems like a fine youngish QB, but the same issues that plagued him early still plague him now (accuracy) and still has to rely on his legs to get him into the next tier or 2 of QB's - basically both QB's are less effective as pocket only QB's.
Now I do think Jalen can improve for sure, but if his max ceiling is Dak (I know some are hoping for Russ wilson development eventually), I'm not sure i"m comfortable with that each year in/out. Would rather just tear it down early vs finding out too late.
Just playing some Devil's Advocate here.
Via John Kryk:
Number of NFL playoff wins over the last 25 seasons: #NYJets 7, #Cowboys 3.
Number of conference championship games reached over the last 25 seasons: #NYJets 3, #Cowboys 0.
Number of head coaches over the last 25 seasons: #NYJets 8, #Cowboys 7.
Fair assessment. I'm just a day early is better than a day late guy. So I would tend to lean toward a more tear it down approach vs "lets see what happens' depending on what information we have.I’d take Dak over Hurts in a minute. I don’t put a lot of blame on Dak for yesterdays game either. Their mental errors and OL lost them that game.
You seem to be a big fan of “tear it down” when it comes to players and coaches as well. You have to let it play out and see at least a little bit. At the same time I saw a HC that was limited with his QB against TB. He couldn’t rely on him to make easy decisions and get the ball out on time. Hurts will have to make BIG strides in the passing game and I don’t know that he can. There’s a year of tape on him now. Can he overcome his short comings and adjust to new game plans against him?
Im still here and can’t see myself moving from it for a bit:
1. I’m ok with him being the starter next year but I’m not expecting any playoff wins.
2. Would take Watson if the offer was decent
3. I’m good if they want to take a Picket/Ridder/Strong but ONLY if they fall.
Im not locked into any of these.