SHIZNITTTT
Footballguy
https://twitter.com/i/status/1202216102471884802
Finebaum. "The country does not want to see Utah in the CFB playoffs!"
Finebaum. "The country does not want to see Utah in the CFB playoffs!"
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2019 College football thread - It's 2020, yo. Go to the new thread. (12 Viewers)
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Mjolnirs
Footballguy
I would disagree, simply from the point of they are someone different. Most people are not fans of the teams that are consistently at the top.
We all get tired of seeing Alabama, Georgia, Ohio State, Notre Dame, Oklahoma and the likes win titles, people not a fan of those teams like to see different teams. In my opinion, this is why Clemson has had people pulling for them the last few years, they are someone different, and I get it. I just happen to be a fan of Clemson's in-state rival, so I don't want to see them either. For Utah to get in, one of the top 4 will need to lose (yes, I know LSU and Georgia play each other), and I would love to see that ... especially if it were Clemson and Ohio State. Clemson specifically.
WDIK2
Footballguy
I agree with you. It's hard to say the country does not want to see Utah when most of the country is happy Alabama isn't in it this year.
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FreeBaGeL
Footballguy
General Malaise
Footballguy
Yet again, I'm left stupefied over why anybody cares what this guy has to say about college football. He looks like a muppet egg. Why is his opinion even remotely relevant? Did he play? Coach? Was he an AD? What is his area of expertise in football that makes his opinion something worth paying attention to?
Tom Servo
Nittany Beavers
Tom Servo
Nittany Beavers
General Malaise
Footballguy
It's happened twice. The 2 seed has won 3 times. 1 and 3 have never won.Didn't Bama win one year as a four seed?
The seeding in this has never really mattered. Not sure why we're wasting keystrokes on it other than I think we're in a rush to predict that the final team to make it in this year will get auto-crushed by any of the other three teams.
Frankly, I think Utah will fare better than OU because unlike the Sooners, the Utes play defense. Well, in fact.
SHIZNITTTT
Footballguy
Sooners are 25th in overall defense. 1st in offense FWIW. https://www.ncaa.com/stats/football/fbs/current/team/22It's happened twice. The 2 seed has won 3 times. 1 and 3 have never won.
The seeding in this has never really mattered. Not sure why we're wasting keystrokes on it other than I think we're in a rush to predict that the final team to make it in this year will get auto-crushed by any of the other three teams.
Frankly, I think Utah will fare better than OU because unlike the Sooners, the Utes play defense. Well, in fact.
bigmarc27
Footballguy
Yeah they did, and actually that’s the year I felt we’re by far the least deserving 1 seed. This should be playoff year 5 for Clemson with two of those being the 1 seed. The first time we housed OU and then lost to Bama, the second time we were not a great team. That year we were coasting off the title the year before but Bryant was our QB.Didn't Bama win one year as a four seed?
Don't Noonan
Footballguy
What happened the last time Utah played Alabama?
2009 BCS Sugar Bowl. Alabama was favored by 10 and lost 31-17.
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Moe.
Footballguy
As much as you keep going on and on about this - OU was up by a point at halftime and then just fell apart in the second half. They had a turnover on downs on Clemson's 30 in the 3rd quarter and another red zone turnover in the 4th quarter. Clemson was clearly better that night and won comfortably but it was not even close to the level of some of the other blowouts we've seen. You need to settle down. We're all very happy that your alma mater is good at football now.
SHIZNITTTT
Footballguy
Doug B
Footballguy
The party line in Tuscaloosa was: "Alabama mailed it in because it wasn't for the national title. Nothing to play for."
SHIZNITTTT
Footballguy
Tom Servo
Nittany Beavers
The seeding is kind of like the points on "Who's Line Is It Anyway?"; they don't really matter.It's happened twice. The 2 seed has won 3 times. 1 and 3 have never won.
The seeding in this has never really mattered. Not sure why we're wasting keystrokes on it other than I think we're in a rush to predict that the final team to make it in this year will get auto-crushed by any of the other three teams.
Frankly, I think Utah will fare better than OU because unlike the Sooners, the Utes play defense. Well, in fact.
We're wasting keystrokes because what else is there to talk about this time of year?
AAABatteries
Footballguy
I had to go work so didn’t stay up on this thread but even though I was saying I don’t think Clemson is definitely in with a loss (and I still don’t) it’s not because I don’t think they are one of the top 4 teams - I think they are but I’m not sure the committee does. And as I mentioned, that ESPN predictor thing agrees with me - they give them almost no chance and I kind of agree if Utah wins. I think Clemson would go ahead of a 2-loss conf champ but not a 1-loss one.
General Malaise
Footballguy
But.......but OU gave up 48 to a Kansas State team that doesn't score 48 points usually, then turned around and gave up 41 to Iowa State. That's not very good. Did Utah give up 40+ in consecutive weeks?
SHIZNITTTT
Footballguy
AAABatteries
Footballguy
I do think this is one of the problems with CFB - there’s just not enough data to make the decision they are trying to make (find the best 4 teams). I have no clue if the information you just provided means much. Maybe everybody OU and Utah played aren’t any good or are all great - or they played in rain. I’m exaggerating but I think we need to expand to 8. Yes, you aren’t getting more data but expanding to 8 or 16 means you are much less likely to leave out the best team.Doug B said:
bigmarc27
Footballguy
I’m ok with 8 on one condition, take out the guess work. 5 P5 winners get in, the top G5 team gets in, top 2 remaining teams via BCS poll, no more than 2 teams from any conference. If we go to 8 any other way, we get 3-4 SEC teams every year because it’s always “well, Bama only lost to Auburn and LSU, they must be great!”
AAABatteries
Footballguy
If they went to 8 I’d be ok with that, although I’d be fine with the current process expanded to 8.
Ramblin Wreck
Footballguy
Agreed on the conference winners especially. This year barring huge upset we would get:
LSU
Ohio St
Clemson
Utah/Oregon
Oklahoma/Baylor
Memphis/Cincinnati/Boise
At Large #1 - Likely Georgia
At Large #2 - Argue it out between P12 runner-up, B12 runner-up, Wisconsin, and Penn State. Florida not eligible per your rules if UGA makes it
Bull Dozier
Footballguy
Would love this type of set up for the playoffs.
The nay-sayers that don't think 8 teams makes any sense, because that #8 seed would never upset the the #1 seed apparently think upsets never happen in college football. That makes no sense.
The Ref
Footballguy
Politician Spock
Footballguy
I'm okay with all power 5 conference champs getting in.... as long as they are all ranked as a top 12 team. I really don't want to see any four loss team in the playoff simply because a conference has a really weak division and that division's winner pulled off a miracle in the conference championship game, or the other team they were playing lost their start QB or something. If you win your conference championship, but you're not ranked as a top 12, then that conference's automatic bid becomes another at large bid.
L5UT1ger
Footballguy
http://sportsourceanalytics.com/rankingtool/
Cool site that ranks teams based on whatever you value.
Cool site that ranks teams based on whatever you value.
gump
Footballguy
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WDIK2
Footballguy
I hadn't seen the any of his 
gump
Footballguy
JaxBill
Footballguy
Quinton got Willie paid and got....practice squad money?
@TBTimes_Bulls: Quinton Flowers was just asked if he would like to see Willie Taggart back as @USFFootball coach: “No comment on that.” https://twitter.com/TBTimes_Bulls/status/1202698375868665866/photo/1
@TBTimes_Bulls: Quinton Flowers was just asked if he would like to see Willie Taggart back as @USFFootball coach: “No comment on that.” https://twitter.com/TBTimes_Bulls/status/1202698375868665866/photo/1
ConstruxBoy
Kate's Daddy
LOL, if you set Winning Percentage and SOS to 100 and the rest to 0, you get five (5!) Big Ten teams in the Top 8.
In The Zone
Footballguy
jamny
Footballguy
Tom Servo
Nittany Beavers
BuT tHe SeC iS tHe tOUgHe St CoN fErAnCe!!LOL, if you set Winning Percentage and SOS to 100 and the rest to 0, you get five (5!) Big Ten teams in the Top 8.
bigmarc27
Footballguy
I haven’t heard anything around that. There’s no doubt that Tony will be a HC very soon, but I’d say it’s a 99% chance that it’s in college.
SHIZNITTTT
Footballguy
USC Struck Out With Bob Stoops
Sources said USC spoke to Stoops but things broke down over how much money his coaching staff would be paid.
https://insideusc.blog/2019/12/05/usc-struck-out-with-bob-stoops/
Sources said USC spoke to Stoops but things broke down over how much money his coaching staff would be paid.
https://insideusc.blog/2019/12/05/usc-struck-out-with-bob-stoops/
Tom Servo
Nittany Beavers
I wonder if that's the real reason or if he didn't want to move west and that's the excuse.
BroncoFreak_2K3
sucker for Orange
Heading to the D2 Quarterfinal tomorrow. Ferris vs. NoWest Mo State (my undergrad mater). Should be a war. It always is when these two play each other.
A little history: Remembering the wild 44-point fourth quarter in the 1999 DII football title game
GO CATS!!
A little history: Remembering the wild 44-point fourth quarter in the 1999 DII football title game
GO CATS!!
WDIK2
Footballguy
Things probably broke down when Mike was mentioned as being a member of the staff. Like, a paid member of the staff.
Tom Servo
Nittany Beavers
I see my collegiate neighbor Slippery Rock has a chance to make the Final 4. PSAC represent!!!
BroncoFreak_2K3
sucker for Orange
From D2 Football.com
NORTHWEST MISSOURI STATE
6 National Titles
Simply put, the Bearcats are the DII football powerhouse. A perennial threat to both the Mid-America Intercollegiate Athletics Association and the national title, their coaches, teams, and trophies are the stuff legends are made of. The Bearcats history really begins when legendary DII coach Mel Tjeersdma led Northwest Missouri State to back-to-back titles in 1998 and 1999. The 1998 squad was the first DII football program to go 15-0 in a season, but they would do it again, most memorably in back-to-back seasons between 2015 and 2016.
Ten years later, Tjeersdma became just the second DII football coach to tally three titles, the most all-time (fellow Bearcats head coach Adam Dorrell would shortly join him as the third). In between the 1999 and 2009 championships, Northwest Missouri State was still in the hunt, losing four straight national championship games between 2005-08. All said, the Bearcats have appeared in 50 percent of the national championship games during the past two decades. That is utter dominance.
They should have 10 titles but stumbled in those four from 2005-08.
NORTHWEST MISSOURI STATE
6 National Titles
Simply put, the Bearcats are the DII football powerhouse. A perennial threat to both the Mid-America Intercollegiate Athletics Association and the national title, their coaches, teams, and trophies are the stuff legends are made of. The Bearcats history really begins when legendary DII coach Mel Tjeersdma led Northwest Missouri State to back-to-back titles in 1998 and 1999. The 1998 squad was the first DII football program to go 15-0 in a season, but they would do it again, most memorably in back-to-back seasons between 2015 and 2016.
Ten years later, Tjeersdma became just the second DII football coach to tally three titles, the most all-time (fellow Bearcats head coach Adam Dorrell would shortly join him as the third). In between the 1999 and 2009 championships, Northwest Missouri State was still in the hunt, losing four straight national championship games between 2005-08. All said, the Bearcats have appeared in 50 percent of the national championship games during the past two decades. That is utter dominance.
They should have 10 titles but stumbled in those four from 2005-08.
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Don't Noonan
Footballguy
I expect a lot of Oklahoma fans will be very happy tonight.
SHIZNITTTT
Footballguy
General Malaise
Footballguy
I think that IS the reason why USC is sticking with Helton. The new AD was told how much he had to spend on a new HC and his staff and it wasn't much. USC just had to pay out something like $400MM to settle lawsuits, so the cupboards are bare financially and HEY, CLAY HELTON! WE LOVE YOU NOW!
General Malaise
Footballguy
Took the under tonight. Weather is going to be nasty. I think Utah wins this one ugly.
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