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TRUMP TO INFINITY AND BEYOND HQ - The Great and Positive Place (12 Viewers)
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SaintsInDome2006
Footballguy
Because the President took a full on authoritarian stance today and I recall you saying that then and it occurred to me it was very much about just that very thing.
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GoBirds
Footballguy
Thunderlips
Footballguy
Yup. The Biden recovery.
Trump supporters will probably be trying to give credit to Trump for 2 years into Bidens 2nd term though.
Widbil83
Footballguy
It is not at all the same thing. I was talking about the awful blue state governors in that post trying to infringe and take away their citizens liberties constantly. Never let a good crisis go to waste Rahm used to say!
And that’s not an authoritarian stance by Trump. If twitter wants to put “fact checks” on posts they should absolutely be treated like a publisher. I’m surprised Twitter screwed up so bad here honestly.
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Widbil83
Footballguy
Joe can’t even get out of the gate. If Biden Politically survives until August I will be shocked.
Max Power
Footballguy
I dont think Joe is going to have the energy to keep up down the homestretch. He faded bad during the primaries, but was bailed out by the DNC.
SaintsInDome2006
Footballguy
It’s seizing control of free speech content and the platform it takes place on. That’s either far left -socialist/communist - or extreme right - nationalist Etc - authoritarianism. Publication/publisher has nothing to do with it.
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GoBirds
Footballguy
Biden can’t get out of his basement much less win an election and accomplish a single thing. Can’t believe the Demmies rolled out an out of touch ancient white dude that can’t keep his hands to himself.
GoBirds
Footballguy
squistion
Footballguy
After the conventions and Labor Day. Probably in October sometime.
And Biden did quite well in the last debate against Bernie, but no one who claims he is deteriorating mentally has been able to explain that.
Leroy Hoard
Footballguy
The General
Footballguy
Max Power
Footballguy
I'm not sure how well he is controlling his anger these days. I'm sure Trump will try to fluster him early and often.
Just have to knock Joe off script.
The General
Footballguy
Serious question. Have you been watching Trump do Q/A’s recently. He struggles badly.
SaintsInDome2006
Footballguy
Max Power
Footballguy
It doesnt help when a majority of the questions are gotcha types.
Joe gets softballs and struggles to spit out a canned answer.
Max Power
Footballguy
I'll worry when he starts talking about how he thinks he can beat Donald Trump.
Bucsfan5493
Footballguy
Unfortunately Republicans are rolling out someone who fits your description of Biden as well.Biden can’t get out of his basement much less win an election and accomplish a single thing. Can’t believe the Demmies rolled out an out of touch ancient white dude that can’t keep his hands to himself.
We should all be embarrassed and demand better options for leadership in this country.
SaintsInDome2006
Footballguy
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The General
Footballguy
Widbil83
Footballguy
I like the new Democrat Biden strategy, when they roll him out once every 3 months make sure to put on his silence of the lambs mask so he can’t sniff anybody or say anything stupid.Biden can’t get out of his basement much less win an election and accomplish a single thing. Can’t believe the Demmies rolled out an out of touch ancient white dude that can’t keep his hands to himself.
Max Power
Footballguy
And one guy is going to be prepared. The other will probably get the questions beforehand.
Widbil83
Footballguy
They are acting as a publisher when they put a fact check on. How do you think Twitter avoids getting the crap sued out of them every 2 seconds? They aren’t a publisher and don’t editorialize. Well now they are which opens them up to a whole new world. Dumb move by a Twitter.
The General
Footballguy
If Trump were prepared he would get through a Q/A without freaking out on someone or saying something nuts like bleach injection needs to be looked into. It is what it is.
Biden is no debate beast either so it’s going to be a mess most likely.
But this idea that Trump is so great in this format is kind of ridiculous.
Widbil83
Footballguy
SaintsInDome2006
Footballguy
So, do you think book publishers can be regulated, censored or shut down by the president? How about newspaper publishers? Pamphlet publishers?
Widbil83
Footballguy
Leroy Hoard
Footballguy
Widbil83
Footballguy
I think Twitter is in a world of crap for caving to the Democrats here. Why not put a fact check on Biden or Schiff when they lie about Russia?
squistion
Footballguy
Fact checking is checking facts, not editorializing. Editing or censoring content would be exercising editorial prerogative. They haven't changed anything Trump actually said.
The General
Footballguy
We’ll see.
Biden’s last debate was pretty good.
I haven’t seen Trump speak lately without a “WTF” moment. He’s got a DiMaggio-like streak going here.
The General
Footballguy
Thunderlips
Footballguy
I'd imagine there'd be a certain amount of consumer confidence (particularly in the service and entertainment industry) that would need to happen now for there to be a (relatively) quick recovery. Unfortunately, there's always the spectre of flair ups and a Fall problem that could slow that down.
Thunderlips
Footballguy
The General
Footballguy
SaintsInDome2006
Footballguy
Ok I was asking you about a question of principle which is easy for any conservative - no, it's not legal for a president to censor or shut down publishers in our American, democratic system. I don't think I have to remind you of Tom Paine, and yes I suppose if Paine allowed people to use his press (which he did) he'd be well fit and entitled - as was his right - to edit their work before he did so.
Your point is a different one though, and really I kind of agree, though I am not sure why you bring up fellow Americans. What about falsehoods by China and various other handles from various adversaries around the world? I do think it's a lot of work, bound to lead to inconsistencies and generally fraught with peril. But it is their right to do what they will with their property and their free press.
HellToupee
Footballguy
SaintsInDome2006
Footballguy
Just so you know, if you get rid of FISA that would be a return to warantless searches, like we had during Nixon and before.
GoBirds
Footballguy
It would be nice but what decent person wants the job....all options suck. We pulled an arrogant billionaire off a reality TV show and he’s running circles around our recent typical politicians and he has the ability of a 5th grader to communicate.Bucsfan5493 said:
Not perfect but I’ll take it over what we had every time.
Max Power
Footballguy
FISA needs to be reformed. We haven't even gotten to the bottom of the Russiagate scandal. I think we need to complete that and we need to close all the loopholes. This current FISA bill doesnt do that.
squistion
Footballguy
Rogan has a pretty good sense, probably better than just about anyone, of when people's lights have gone out. And who is smoking in the studio?
SaintsInDome2006
Footballguy
Max Power
Footballguy
Barr wants it reformed and I hope Trump listens. It serves a purpose, but is too easily abused.
SaintsInDome2006
Footballguy
You do know Barr founded the spying program that DOJ and the NSA ultimately got busted for by IG Michael Horowitz?
Barr doesn't want to reform anything. He wants less oversight, not more.
Here's Horowitz's report:
Barr hates the FISC.
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