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have you ever needed a semi automatic rifle, with a clip in excess of 30 rounds?

have you ever needed a semi automatic rifle, with a clip in excess of 30 rounds?  

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2 hours ago, TheIronSheik said:

You're all over the place, friend.  Can you please explain what exactly you want?  You said you know people can modify their guns, but let's ban that, too.  What?  That is illegal.  That's the point I'm trying to make with you.  Just because you ban something doesn't mean it stops it.  

I think the best way to put is that I would want guns that you have to load one bullet at a time.  Can hold up to 6 bullets max.  When you run out of bullets you have to insert them one by one.  No clips or magazines.

Point being to slow down mass shooters.  More opportunity to stop them.

If you think guns laws are meaningless and dont reduce body count then their is no point for further debate.

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56 minutes ago, Daywalker said:

I think the best way to put is that I would want guns that you have to load one bullet at a time.  Can hold up to 6 bullets max.  When you run out of bullets you have to insert them one by one.  No clips or magazines.

Point being to slow down mass shooters.  More opportunity to stop them.

If you think guns laws are meaningless and dont reduce body count then their is no point for further debate.

A revolver fits your description for handguns. A tube fed semi automatic fits your description for a rifle. 

So, you don't have an issue with firing rate. Since you state that it's loading time and magazine capacity that are the concern. 

I will again point out that 2/3rds of the gun deaths in this country is due to suicide. I don't know of many suicide victims that shoot themselves multiple times. Usually, it's one round. 

But, if you're wanting to reduce body count as a result of mass shootings. Then your ideas may very well work. I would agree to these if you were willing to impose very severe penalties for anyone caught in possession of a weapon that does not fit your description. I will not comply while criminals continue to break the laws with minimal repercussions. 

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13 hours ago, KCitons said:

A revolver fits your description for handguns. A tube fed semi automatic fits your description for a rifle. 

So, you don't have an issue with firing rate. Since you state that it's loading time and magazine capacity that are the concern. 

I will again point out that 2/3rds of the gun deaths in this country is due to suicide. I don't know of many suicide victims that shoot themselves multiple times. Usually, it's one round. 

But, if you're wanting to reduce body count as a result of mass shootings. Then your ideas may very well work. I would agree to these if you were willing to impose very severe penalties for anyone caught in possession of a weapon that does not fit your description. I will not comply while criminals continue to break the laws with minimal repercussions. 

Exactly. The cop shooter in Philly? Convicted felon. He cannot legally possess a fire arm or even ammunition and yet six cops got shot. 

If we make all semi auto guns illegal, and go door to door and confiscate every one we can find, they will be about as prevalent in our society those illegal drugs are. 

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On ‎8‎/‎14‎/‎2019 at 2:35 PM, Statorama said:

You're dancing around a great point.  Most regular/hardworking/non-violent people know to stay out of the "bad" neighborhoods, since violence is rampant and unchecked there.  It's when someone invades a "good" neighborhood (or an otherwise previously believed "safe" space) that people freak out at the randomness of it ("dang, I did everything I could to be away from the war zone, yet the war zone found me").  I know what neighborhoods in Chicago not to wander around in.  There are neighborhoods that I drive through in Milwaukee that I pray that I don't break down in.  If I start strutting around those neighborhoods like I own the place (unarmed) I'm going to get what I deserve.  If 20 people get shot in Chicago, it's a one line sentence on the news.  But if a nice lady in Naperville gets shot on her way to bingo, we get interviews with the neighbors and a comment from the cops.  Long story short, people have written off the expectation of human decency within inner cities, so it's not shocking or disturbing when reports of senseless violence come out of there.  

It's kind of like when you go to an all-inclusive resort.  A mass shooting there would be weird since there's an underlying expectation of safety.  You figure they've paid off the gangs to not shoot up the tourists and it's baked into the price.  But if you wander off the resort without an escort, you have to kind of acknowledge that there's a likelihood you might get your head chopped off.

As a teen, pre-driving, I use to ride my bike from the suburbs into Milwaukee to party with a friend who lived on Lake Drive.  The most direct route was straight down North Avenue.  Mid-afternoon it was not too bad.  Returning at night it was dangerous.  I had bottles flung at me, shots ring out, and folks chase after me. I never stopped at any light, no matter what.   Often I'd ride the extra distance to get to Capital Drive.   I got so I could make that ride from Lake Drive to 124th in under a half and hour. No sense lingering around down there.

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