Henry Ford
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To be fair, it’s hard to care. Discerning reality from falsehood is really hard now. Everything is a manipulatable set of pixels.
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GoBirds
Footballguy
Agree, I think people are numb to it after all the time wasted on Russia and there probably isn’t a political price going forward. Not good in general but that’s where we are at.
Henry Ford
Footballguy
GoBirds
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GoBirds
Footballguy
Many would say your track record in here is unpatriotic and it’s clear you don’t understand why.
SaintsInDome2006
Footballguy
It's a full glass. I don't think there's a problem with acknowledging that Isis is still existing and that we are at war with them. It's a victory, not the victory.
sho nuff
Footballguy
GoBirds
Footballguy
Do you ever think “the victory” exists? I don’t see a religious war ever going away unfortunately.
timschochet
Footballguy
An extremely bad man, a force for evil in this world, is dead. It’s great news. Full stop.
The General
Footballguy
In a perfect world or with a more say conventional leader we wouldn’t have these implications that the opposing party would leak military plans to the press, that’s not a good thing to be saying. Could have also done without his spiel about OBL and how he knew it was going to happen and that this guy is a bigger target, etc.
Regardless a successful mission, glad this POS is dead.
Regardless a successful mission, glad this POS is dead.
SaintsInDome2006
Footballguy
Well we're still at war with Al Qaeda too. They exist. We found OBL hiding in the shadow of our ally there too and they fight on.
I don't know. When we got into this thing in 2001-03 we had to make a strategic decision whether to go full on war across the globe for as long as it took or continue the precision strike and response strategy that we had done in the 90s. From Bush Sr to Trump I don't envy the men who make the call. I know I criticize Trump all the time but like other presidents he carries the burden of those decisions and my hat is off to him for that. Good luck to us all on him making the right calls (as we did with other presidents).
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GoBirds
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Juxtatarot
Footballguy
I don't understand this speculation of a "deal" involving America pulling out. A deal with whom?
Ghost Rider
Footballguy
Exactly.
Unfortunately, the usual suspects who are worried more about who does or who doesn't get credit are polluting this thread with their usual nonsense. When you wonder in the next week or so why this subforum no longer exists, those are the people you can blame.
HellToupee
Footballguy
timschochet
Footballguy
I won’t blame anyone.Exactly.
Unfortunately, the usual suspects who are worried more about who does or who doesn't get credit are polluting this thread with their usual nonsense. When you wonder in the next week or so why this subforum no longer exists, those are the people you can blame.
But let me say that, while I disagree with a few of the comments here, this thread is absolutely nothing like the thread that followed the death of Osama bin Laden. That was in the FFA, I wonder if it still exists. Not that I’d want to read it again. I remember it clearly, it was truly ugly. The Obama haters went from claiming it was a hoax, to arguing that Obama had nothing to do with it, to repeating a conspiracy theory that Obama tried to stop it. It was really awful, not like this at all.
SHIZNITTTT
Footballguy
sho nuff
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SHIZNITTTT
Footballguy
This is really sad. Suggesting that the 3rd in line for the President would leak information to harm American troops and allies.
Ghost Rider
Footballguy
I have zero recollection of that thread, but it wouldn't surprise me if it was just like you described.
squistion
Footballguy
Yes, it is and suggesting that Pelosi or Schiff would leak this and endanger the troops is appalling.
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The General
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Ilov80s
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I wasn’t trying to be half empty. A deal isn’t necessarily bad- depends on the value of the target, etc.
squistion
Footballguy
Mr. Pickles
Footballguy
I thought Obama founded ISIS.
The General
Footballguy
It is possible to be supportive of what happened today, praise the mission, the planning and yes the President for a successful mission in killing this turd and at the same time you can be critical of the words he chose in describing leaks and attributing them to Dem leaders. That is the type of stuff that fuels division and is very dangerous and honestly should be shocking to everyone IMO.
What is the president implying with this?
This is just a discussion on that. It’s not an attempt at ruining the thread, praising a job well done, a successful mission that the president was a part of, etc.
It can be discussed in a reasonable way without people getting angry, right?
What is the president implying with this?
This is just a discussion on that. It’s not an attempt at ruining the thread, praising a job well done, a successful mission that the president was a part of, etc.
It can be discussed in a reasonable way without people getting angry, right?
JohnnyU
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JohnnyU
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It's a good thing that Pelosi wasn't informed. She has no business being in her position and I wouldn't trust her keeping her mouth shut.
Ghost Rider
Footballguy
Using that logic, we can then say that Trump should never be informed of anything since he has no business being in his position, right? And we know he can't keep his mouth shut.
JohnnyU
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JohnnyU
Footballguy
The President makes those kinds of decisions, so he's a hell of lot more invested than Nancy Pelosi.
BigJim®
Footballguy
squistion
Footballguy
:(
Geebus.
Can you point to one single thing she has ever done in her entire legislative career that would indicate that she would leak intelligence?
The General
Footballguy
You honestly think the Speaker of the House would leak details of a military operation to kill an ISIS leader?
Come on man.
JohnnyU
Footballguy
I always thought the fewer people know about a mission the better chance of success. Only those that have to know should know.
JohnnyU
Footballguy
Her hatred for Trump is too risky to chance American lives. Besides, the way she is conducting business and treating Trump, she should be left out in the cold on most things.
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Trump has a chance to try and bridge the divide here - instead he can't resist a partisan jab or two (down-playing the Bin Laden raid).
Just be happy you got a bad guy, and the world is a little safer today than it was yesterday.
Its difficult to comprehend - given my low opinion of the president already - but my opinion might have gotten lower with his remarks.
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squistion
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Once again I ask you:
Can you point to one single thing she has ever done in her entire legislative career that would indicate that she would leak intelligence?
JohnnyU
Footballguy
the way she is conducting business and treating Trump, she should be left out in the cold on most things.
The General
Footballguy
And you leave it at that.
The President shouldn’t imply the person 3rd in line is some type of traitor to our nation.
It’s dangerous, anti-American, gross stuff.
Even if he believes this be a leader, shut your mouth for just a few moments. Enjoy the job that was just accomplished.
JohnnyU
Footballguy
I do enjoy what just happened, very much so. I just don't see the need to inform Nancy Pelosi, especially the way she's treating the POTUS. I don't see any advantage in notifying Nancy Pelosi on military matters.
BigJim®
Footballguy
JohnnyU
Footballguy
Even if he had notified Pelosi, do you think for one second she would change her agenda? I see absolutely no harm in leaving her on the outside.
The General
Footballguy
I honestly don’t even know what the process is hear, if the speaker is let in on this things.
He injected this into the conversation by saying something either very dumb (and dangerous IMO) because he is impulsive and doesn’t understand the implications in the moment or purposefully injecting this into the conversation for political reasons.
I think it’s the former but who knows.
Both would be bad and worthy of criticism and discussion.
The General
Footballguy
Yeah I’m not sure what the normal protocol is here. What I do know is that the President shouldn’t imply that telling the Speaker this type of thing would mean it will be leaked to the press.
JohnnyU
Footballguy
Why take a chance? I believe it's more about her agenda and to needle her because of it. Childish? Yes, probably, but if I were the POTUS and was treated the way she is treating Trump, I would only tell her what I absolutely had to tell her. This isn't one of them.
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