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Trent Williams...now I've heard everything (1 Viewer)
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fatness
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Ministry of Pain
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Dorsey was reckless? It seems like he made Cleveland the talk of the NFL inside of a couple years. KC won a Super Bowl after he left town, at least some of that work was set in motion by Dorsey. I believe he traces back to New England if I'm not mistaken.
kittenmittens
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This does not sense. The Jets are a bunch of stupids who should have their team taken away for being unable to come anywhere close to fielding a competitive team. Trade some desperately needed future draft capital for a 32 year old tackle, you bozos.
You're totally going to win this year with Adam Gase
I suppose these jokers would just waste the draft capital on bad picks anyhow, but they should at least try drafting young lineman. Who cares if Darnold gets pressured slightly less for a few years, build your team. Maybe try to learn from the last decade of failed short term thinking?
You're totally going to win this year with Adam Gase
I suppose these jokers would just waste the draft capital on bad picks anyhow, but they should at least try drafting young lineman. Who cares if Darnold gets pressured slightly less for a few years, build your team. Maybe try to learn from the last decade of failed short term thinking?
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Brunell4MVP
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Really Schefter? No ####? Aren't you a smart one?
The problem isn't that they don't want to trade him. It's that his agent's salary demands are ludicrous for an aged LT that has barely played in 2 years, had a medical issue, and is 1 toke away from a season long suspension.
Drop those salary demans to $16M and maybe your player would be tradable.
Every time Vincent Taylor opens his mouth, his client looks the worse for it. He overplayed his hand and is trying to find a way to save his own job. It'll get done, eventually.
The problem isn't that they don't want to trade him. It's that his agent's salary demands are ludicrous for an aged LT that has barely played in 2 years, had a medical issue, and is 1 toke away from a season long suspension.
Drop those salary demans to $16M and maybe your player would be tradable.
Every time Vincent Taylor opens his mouth, his client looks the worse for it. He overplayed his hand and is trying to find a way to save his own job. It'll get done, eventually.
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Dr. Octopus
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All Schefter reported was what Taylor told him. Maybe you misread it, because going off on Schefter seems misplaced.
BoltBacker
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I think you're right in that he's expressing frustration with the situation, but it's also fine to criticize Schefter in this situation. In this report Schefter is more or less conveying that his breaking news is..... nothing has changed. For almost a year..... Trent Williams is unwilling to play for the Redskins and wants to leave. Nobody seems willing to give up anything of value for Williams so the Redskins are in no hurry to release him or trade him for nothing. Again, nothing has changed. Sometimes no news is just that. NO NEWS. There isn't an asteroid hurtling to destroy the planet tomorrow. Megatron isn't coming out of retirement. There is no real need to report on the news that isn't happening.
There is a difference between reporting actual news and being a microphone for an agent throwing a tantrum. I used to think the Redskins should just move on from Williams to let the franchise get a fresh start but if no NFL team is even willing to give up a day 2 pick in the draft(shrug) I would just let him sit out his 30's. Schefter can go on "reporting" on the updates to the exact same situation every week when Taylor pulls his string but as a franchise WAS shouldn't comment on the situation UNLESS SOMETHING CHANGES. If Trent Williams doesn't want to play football he doesn't have to. He certainly didn't have to sign the contract that he chose to sign. If he hadn't he would be a FA. And just like Clowney, and Melvin Gordon, and Winston I'm sure he'd get exactly as much money as he and his agent have decided that he deserves.
Dr. Octopus
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This is all Schefter "reported", LT Trent Williams' agent, Vincent Taylor, told the Redskins it's in the "best interest" to trade or release him.
It's the offseason. There isn't much going on. If that upsets you. It's you.
BoltBacker
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You think that it upsets me that it's the offseason and there isn't much going on?
Dr. Octopus
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daveR
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FWIW, I think it's significant that his agent is allowed to seek a trade. In that framework, they can tell teams that the $20M contract demand was only for WAS, to get him out of there. He may well be available for less. The second part is trade compensation itself which might be a 2nd round pick or might be a 2nd day pick, which is likely if the contract is workable.
Brunell4MVP
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Boys boys boys. It's all good. Dr Oct is right. Schefter didn't necessarily say anything. He just reported what the agent said. I was off base.
Albeit I think Schefter is kind of providing an assist in making the new Skins management look bad by the angles he takes in his reporting. He could at least let them play a game before he gets back on the bandwagon of backhanded jabs at them. His last sentence in his tweet about the 5th rounder for Dunbar may be factual, but it's a jab that's overly simplifies what the Skins accomplished getting Dunbar's soon to be contract issue (and what would have been a holdout) out the door when they don't need distractions.
Trent will be out of here too. But the longer they hold onto him the more likely TB, CLE, SD, MIA, and others will finally come around on trade value and Trents agent will finally drop on contract demands. With Dunbar that wasn't the issue. Everyone knows he's not close to the #2 CB in the league per PFF. He's probably not in the top 30 CBs. His value was limited IMO.
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Biabreakable
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Vikings Interested in LT Trent Williams
According to this article the contract Williams is seeking is less than what has been reported.
The artcle also floats the possibility of the Vikings trading Riley Reiff for Trent Williams. I assume the Vikings would need to add something a bit more to get that done than just Reiff, but maybe not that much more?
According to this article the contract Williams is seeking is less than what has been reported.
The artcle also floats the possibility of the Vikings trading Riley Reiff for Trent Williams. I assume the Vikings would need to add something a bit more to get that done than just Reiff, but maybe not that much more?
BoltBacker
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What a joke. Williams thinks he is worth $20mil/season but he's afraid to compete with the SEVENTH rookie OT drafted? I felt bad for Williams when he SAID it was all about his health, and getting dinked around by Bruce Allen, and he didn't trust the medical staff etc, etc. Turns out this was all about money the whole time. Just sit quietly in the corner Trent and leak to the "media" that you want to get traded every few months. It won't cost the Redskins a dime to unofficially retire you. Any thoughts of releasing this big baby should be squashed as soon as possible. There's really not a lot to spend the money on anyway at this point. Maybe they could sign Clowney as their 7th starting defensive lineman?
"TRENT WILLIAMST, WASHINGTON REDSKINS
NFL Network's Ian Rapoport reports Redskins LT Trent Williams declined the team's proposed trade to the Vikings.
Vikings added a first-round talent, Ezra Cleveland, to shore up Kirk Cousins' blindside in the second round of Saturday's festivities, leading Williams to reportedly nix any movement to Minnesota in the process. Whether the Vikings have done well in the draft (and they have through two nights) is a moot point as their organization was realistically one of the last remaining suitors for 31-year-old Williams to land with. At this point, it can't be completely thrown out that he steps away from football entirely in 2020. There's no conclusion to report as long as Williams refuses to play for Washington and, on the other end of the spectrum, other franchises refuse to give in to his lucrative demands. He remains up for grabs as one of the best left tackles in all of football."
"TRENT WILLIAMST, WASHINGTON REDSKINS
NFL Network's Ian Rapoport reports Redskins LT Trent Williams declined the team's proposed trade to the Vikings.
Vikings added a first-round talent, Ezra Cleveland, to shore up Kirk Cousins' blindside in the second round of Saturday's festivities, leading Williams to reportedly nix any movement to Minnesota in the process. Whether the Vikings have done well in the draft (and they have through two nights) is a moot point as their organization was realistically one of the last remaining suitors for 31-year-old Williams to land with. At this point, it can't be completely thrown out that he steps away from football entirely in 2020. There's no conclusion to report as long as Williams refuses to play for Washington and, on the other end of the spectrum, other franchises refuse to give in to his lucrative demands. He remains up for grabs as one of the best left tackles in all of football."
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Brunell4MVP
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At this point just trade him for any player. OL, LB, TE. Hell, get a 10th player to compete at RB or DL. It doesn't matter how old or young or what their contract is. End this mess and get something back. It's $12.5M of cap space freed up. Could snatch up Ryan Logan or Amukamara for that.
BoltBacker
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But they have enough to sign Logan Ryan right now. They don't even need Trents money. I think the new CBA gives the Redskins more power than ever against holdouts. If Trent doesn't want to play anymore I respect his decision. He shouldn't play anymore. But someone should inform his agent that he's not a FA just as @ffmail4me says. If they aren't going to get anything for him, they are losing nothing by letting him sit.
He's already pissed away $12+Mil, why not sit another year and make it an even $25Mil? That's a lot of weed he could have bought. His career is just slipping down through the hourglass. The way he and his agent are handling this whole thing make Melvin Gordon look like a rocket scientist.
Bruce Allen wasn't fair to me! Fired
The Skins medical staff wasn't fair! Fired
The new WAS regime isn't being fair!
MIN drafted the 7th OT in the draft class!
Waaaaaaaaaaaa!
At least Rotoworld believes everything Vincent Taylor says as gospel.
Mister CIA
Footballguy
Traded to the 49ers for a 3rd and a 5th.
Pipes
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BoltBacker
Footballguy
Keep in mind several Skins fans acted like extra 2nd and 3rd round picks from ATL were close to worthless.
Skins should have just dared him to sit out another year.
Ilov80s
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Due to the virus, we should play it safe for the next season and just skip ahead to the Conference Championship games of San Fran vs New Orleans and KC vs Baltimore. All the other games seem non-essential.
I am sure he would have sat out another year. After one year, why not do it again? He has already made $95 million and got paid $600,000 last year to not play. I think he's fine either way.
BoltBacker
Footballguy
I would have been fine with him sitting. They should have traded #2 and all the picks they would have gotten from ATL would have made these picks seem like nothing.
Brunell4MVP
Footballguy
Nah. It's fine. Sure they got fleeced on WIlliams. At least this won't linger into the season. Plus it was the last year of his deal. If it wasn't I would be tougher and probably keep him.
FACT: They lost their negotiating strength in the matter last season. Bruce had to move him immediately for them to get value for him. This is just Bruce screwing us from his pad overlooking the Pacific one last time.
FACT: They lost their negotiating strength in the matter last season. Bruce had to move him immediately for them to get value for him. This is just Bruce screwing us from his pad overlooking the Pacific one last time.
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Ilov80s
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You don't think the Ravens are an elite team? They had a great season, lost almost nobody from it and have crushed the draft
He feels his Titans are being overlooked especially considering they won at Baltimore last playoffs.
-OZ-
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-OZ-
Footballguy
I wasn't really wanting to detail the thread. But it's cool, people can disrespect / overlook the Titans again.
BoltBacker
Footballguy
I don't wish him any ill will, I blame the "new" regime in WAS that seems to have rewarded a player under contract throwing a year long temper tantrum. It's a bad look for the team and under the new CBA Williams had NO leverage. NONE.
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