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2 hours ago, ComfortablyNumb said:


That's some ridiculously good value on Shenault (1.11 in my league) and Claypool (I took him at 3.4).

yeah. No kidding!  I was considering both of them at 3.1 but went QB instead (due to only having Stafford) and was shocked that Shenault dropped to me, and then to have Claypool drop as well was nuts. I’ll post the full draft when it ends in a day or so. 

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On 5/1/2020 at 7:49 AM, Andy Dufresne said:

PPR IDP Zealots league

https://www64.myfantasyleague.com/2020/options?L=32192&O=17

I'm Denver...because I know you care. Five of the first 13 picks are mine. Let's go!

Finished (well, one pick left).

So I ended up with: Taylor, CEH, Jefferson, Ruggs, Chase Y, Shenault, Duvernay, DJ Dallas, Winfield, Davis-Gaither, and I Coulter...plus a dude gave me a 2021 3rd for two sixths.

I'm pleased with the results.

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11 hours ago, joey said:

yeah. No kidding!  I was considering both of them at 3.1 but went QB instead (due to only having Stafford) and was shocked that Shenault dropped to me, and then to have Claypool drop as well was nuts. I’ll post the full draft when it ends in a day or so. 

I passed on Shenault in one league at 2.04 solely because I wanted one share of Burrow :)  But I already drafted both Lamb and Jeudy at 1.04 and 1.05 respectively and got CEH at 1.02 and Pittman at 2.02.  Shenault went with the next pick at 2.05.

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17 minutes ago, Andy Dufresne said:

Finished (well, one pick left).

So I ended up with: Taylor, CEH, Jefferson, Ruggs, Chase Y, Shenault, Duvernay, DJ Dallas, Winfield, Davis-Gaither, and I Coulter...plus a dude gave me a 2021 3rd for two sixths.

I'm pleased with the results.

Love those 1st two picks. Hopefully they carry you for a couple years. 

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2 minutes ago, Andy Dufresne said:

Fair point. Probably better said that it's terrible to be looking for a RB outside the top 6 picks in rookie drafts this year. Usually you can count on at least one top guy getting into the second half.

I like AJ Dillon, especially at that price point. This is a WR draft. Sure, if your team was bad last year you can get one of each. But for a contender I think he presents a good risk/reward at the end of round 2 after the WR drop-off hits. 

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12 team PPR Flex, Flex

1.01  Taylor, Jonathan IND RB (R)

1.02  Edwards-Helaire, Clyde KCC RB (R)

1.03  Swift, D'Andre DET RB (R)

1.04  Dobbins, J.K. BAL RB (R)

1.05  Jeudy, Jerry DEN WR (R)

1.06  Akers, Cam LAR RB (R)

1.07  Lamb, CeeDee DAL WR (R)

1.08  Jefferson, Justin MIN WR (R)

1.09  Reagor, Jalen PHI WR (R)

1.10  Ruggs, Henry LVR WR (R)

1.11  Vaughn, Ke'Shawn TBB RB (R)

1.12  Higgins, Tee CIN WR (R)

 

2.01  Pittman, Michael IND WR (R)

2.02  Mims, Denzel NYJ WR (R)

2.03  Aiyuk, Brandon SFO WR (R)

2.04  Claypool, Chase PIT WR (R)

2.05  Shenault, Laviska JAC WR (R)

2.06  Burrow, Joe CIN QB (R)

2.07  Edwards, Bryan LVR WR (R)

2.08  Moss, Zack BUF RB (R)

2.09  Tagovailoa, Tua MIA QB (R) 

2.10  Dillon, AJ GBP RB (R) 

2.11  McFarland, Anthony PIT RB (R) 

2.12  Gibson, Antonio WAS RB (R) 

 

3.01  Jefferson, Van LAR WR (R)  

3.02  Hamler, KJ DEN WR (R) 

3.03  Evans, Darrynton TEN RB (R) 

3.04  Kmet, Cole CHI TE (R) 

3.05  Gandy-Golden, Antonio WAS WR (R) 

3.06  Benjamin, Eno ARI RB (R) 

3.07  Kelley, Joshua LAC RB (R) 

3.08  Johnson, Tyler TBB WR (R) 

3.09  Duvernay, Devin BAL WR (R) 

3.10  Herbert, Justin LAC QB (R) 

3.11  Love, Jordan GBP QB (R) 

3.12  Bowden, Lynn LVR RB (R) 

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On 5/3/2020 at 12:07 PM, mcintyre1 said:

Have one going (late 2nd round right now), several more starting in the next week:

PPR 1QB 2RB 3WR 1TE 1FLEX
https://www55.myfantasyleague.com/2020/options?L=39244&O=17

^ That one just finished up this morning

Another one starting up now, same format:
https://www55.myfantasyleague.com/2020/options?L=46557&O=17

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3 hours ago, MAC_32 said:

2008 and 2017 were exceptional with 10 and 9 guys who arguably produced at least RB2 seasons at some point in careers.  Most years seem to have 4-5.  

2017 only had 4 taken on the first day but all four produced.  Three of the four 3rd picks produced. A 4th, 5th and 7th all went on to start for their teams at some point.

Odds are about 10% that 2020 has 8-10 who will produce like that. I would guess that it will be more like five.

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FFPC Superflex - my picks in bold

1.01CEH

1.02BURROWS

1.03TAYLOR

1.04TUA

1.05DOBBINS

1.06LAMB

1.07JEUDY

1.08SWIFT

1.09AKERS

1.10RUGGS

1.11JEFFERSON

1.12VAUGHN

2.01REAGOR

2.02MIMS

2.03MOSS

2.04HERBERT

2.05PITTMAN JR

2.06GESICKI

2.07HIGGINS

2.08DILLON

2.09GIBSON

2.10AIYUK

2.11SHENAULT

2.12MCFARLAND

3.01EDWARDS

3.02LOVE

3.03HILL

3.04STIDHAM

3.05CLAYPOOL

3.06HURST

3.07GRONK

3.08J WHITE

3.09DAMIEN

3.10MARVIN

3.11KELLEY

3.12EVANS

4.01BENJAMIN

4.02ARMSTEAD

4.03JACE

4.04TYROD

4.05JARWIN

4.06LEGATRON

4.07BOWDEN

4.08TRAUTMAN

4.09KMET

4.10DEEJAY

4.11EASON

4.12HAMLER

5.01TYLER

5.02HURTS

5.03EBRON

5.04DAMIEN WILLIAMS

5.05ASIASI

5.06BUFFALO

5.07PERINE

5.08TRUBISKY

5.09VAN

5.10SHEPARD

5.11RENFROW

5.12LAZARD

6.01DUVARNAY

6.02REYNOLDS

6.03BOSTON

6.04OKWU

6.05SNELL

6.06HINES

6.07JAMAAL

6.08GOLDENGANDY

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12 team, start 2qb, 2rb, 4wr, 2te, 1 def, 1 k PPR

1.01Wildcatz Burrow, Joe CIN QB

1.02Husky Howlers Edwards-Helaire, Clyde KCC RB

1.03Geaux Tigers Tagovailoa, Tua MIA QB

1.04Runnin Rebels Taylor, Jonathan IND RB

1.05Footballaholics Herbert, Justin LAC QB

1.06Naraku's Poisonous Insects Dobbins, J.K. BAL RB

1.07Phantom Bees Jeudy, Jerry DEN WR

1.08Wildcatz Lamb, CeeDee DAL WR

1.09Phantom Bees Swift, D'Andre DET RB

1.1Runnin Rebels Akers, Cam LAR RB

1.11Washington Rednecks Ruggs, Henry LVR WR

1.12Wildcatz Trautman, Adam NOS TE

2.01Runnin Rebels Reagor, Jalen PHI WR

2.02Washington Rednecks Jefferson, Justin MIN WR

2.03Husky Howlers Love, Jordan GBP QB

2.04Geaux Tigers Higgins, Tee CIN WR

2.05Washington Rednecks Pittman, Michael IND WR

2.06Naraku's Poisonous Insects Vaughn, Ke'Shawn TBB RB

2.07GodFather Moss, Zack BUF RB

2.08Runnin Rebels Hurts, Jalen PHI QB

2.09Geaux Tigers Dillon, AJ GBP RB

2.1Runnin Rebels Mims, Denzel NYJ WR

2.11Phantom Bees Aiyuk, Brandon SFO WR (Q)

2.12Geaux Tigers Shenault, Laviska JAC WR

3.01GodFather McFarland, Anthony PIT RB

3.02Phantom Bees Eason, Jacob IND QB

3.03Washington Rednecks Claypool, Chase PIT WR

3.04GodFather Edwards, Bryan LVR WR (Q)

3.05Footballaholics Duvernay, Devin BAL WR

3.06Phantom Bees Kmet, Cole CHI TE

3.07Midway Monsters Gibson, Antonio WAS RB

3.08GodFather Evans, Darrynton TEN RB

3.09Naraku's Poisonous Insects Kelley, Joshua LAC RB

3.1Runnin Rebels Asiasi, Devin NEP TE

3.11Husky Howlers Jefferson, Van LAR WR (Q)

3.12GodFather Gandy-Golden, Antonio WAS WR

4.01Husky Howlers Perine, Lamical NYJ RB

4.02Husky Howlers Bowden, Lynn LVR RB

4.03Washington Rednecks Dallas, DeeJay SEA RB

4.04Wildcatz Moss, Thaddeus WAS TE (Q)

4.05Washington Rednecks Benjamin, Eno ARI RB

4.06Naraku's Poisonous Insects Johnson, Tyler TBB WR

4.07Phantom Bees Okwuegbunam, Albert DEN TE

4.08GodFather Cephus, Quintez DET WR

4.09GodFather Hamler, KJ DEN WR

4.1Midway Monsters Mooney, Darnell CHI WR

4.11Midway Monsters Taylor, J.J. NEP RB

4.12Footballaholics Robinson, James JAC RB

5.01Midway Monsters Morgan, James NYJ QB

5.02Midway Monsters Peoples-Jones, Donovan CLE WR

5.03Budmen Davis, Gabriel BUF WR

5.04Footballaholics Fromm, Jake BUF QB

5.05Phantom Bees Johnson, Collin JAC WR

5.06Naraku's Poisonous Insects Ahmed, Salvon SFO RB

5.07Washington Rednecks Keene, Dalton NEP TE

5.08Midway Monsters Pierce, Artavis CHI RB

5.09Phantom Bees Bryant, Harrison CLE TE

5.1Phantom Bees Hill, K.J. LAC WR

5.11Midway Monsters Calais, Raymond TBB RB

5.12Phantom Bees Stevens, Tommy NOS QB

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League 2, same rules: 12 team, start 2qb, 2rb, 4wr, 2te, 1 def, 1 k PPR

1.01WILDCATZ Burrow, Joe CIN QB

1.02PURPLSMURFS Tagovailoa, Tua MIA QB

1.03PHANTOM BEES Edwards-Helaire, Clyde KCC RB

1.04PURPLSMURFS Taylor, Jonathan IND RB

1.05MIDWAY MONSTERS Dobbins, J.K. BAL RB

1.06HUSKY HOWLERS Herbert, Justin LAC QB

1.07PURPLSMURFS Swift, D'Andre DET RB

1.08MAVERICK FFC Jeudy, Jerry DEN WR

1.09PURPLSMURFS Akers, Cam LAR RB

1.1REDNECKS Lamb, CeeDee DAL WR

1.11BASHERS Ruggs, Henry LVR WR

1.12REDNECKS Jefferson, Justin MIN WR

2.01WILDCATZ Trautman, Adam NOS TE

2.02HUSKY HOWLERS Reagor, Jalen PHI WR

2.03MIDWAY MONSTERS Vaughn, Ke'Shawn TBB RB

2.04REDNECKS Pittman, Michael IND WR

2.05WALLSTREET Kmet, Cole CHI TE

2.06BASHERS Higgins, Tee CIN WR

2.07MIDWAY MONSTERS Shenault, Laviska JAC WR

2.08MAVERICK FFC Dillon, AJ GBP RB

2.09PHANTOM BEES Love, Jordan GBP QB

2.1REDNECKS Mims, Denzel NYJ WR

2.11PHANTOM BEES Aiyuk, Brandon SFO WR (Q)

2.12BUDMEN Edwards, Bryan LVR WR (Q)

3.01REDNECKS Claypool, Chase PIT WR

3.02REBELS Hurts, Jalen PHI QB

3.03SILVERBACKS Moss, Zack BUF RB

3.04BUDMEN McFarland, Anthony PIT RB

3.05WALLSTREET Huntley, Jason DET RB

3.06WALLSTREET Cephus, Quintez DET WR

3.07BUDMEN Perine, Lamical NYJ RB

3.08PHANTOM BEES Kelley, Joshua LAC RB

3.09MIDWAY MONSTERS Eason, Jacob IND QB

3.1REDNECKS Gibson, Antonio WAS RB

3.11PHANTOM BEES Asiasi, Devin NEP TE

3.12BUDMEN Duvernay, Devin BAL WR

4.01HUSKY HOWLERS Benjamin, Eno ARI RB

4.02PHANTOM BEES Gandy-Golden, Antonio WAS WR

4.03HUSKY HOWLERS Jefferson, Van LAR WR (Q)

4.04REBELS Bowden, Lynn LVR RB

4.05MIDWAY MONSTERS Hamler, KJ DEN WR

4.06REDNECKS Evans, Darrynton TEN RB

4.07PHANTOM BEES Moss, Thaddeus WAS TE (Q)

4.08PHANTOM BEES Peoples-Jones, Donovan CLE WR

4.09MIDWAY MONSTERS Dallas, DeeJay SEA RB

4.1HUSKY HOWLERS Johnson, Tyler TBB WR

4.11REBELS Deguara, Josiah GBP TE

4.12REBELS Taylor, J.J. NEP RB

5.01HUSKY HOWLERS Bryant, Harrison CLE TE

5.02PHANTOM BEES Okwuegbunam, Albert DEN TE

5.03PHANTOM BEES Johnson, Collin JAC WR

5.04REBELS Stevens, Tommy NOS QB

5.05PHANTOM BEES Hill, K.J. LAC WR

5.06REDNECKS Keene, Dalton NEP TE

5.07MIDWAY MONSTERS Mooney, Darnell CHI WR

5.08MAVERICK FFC Robinson, James JAC RB

5.09PHANTOM BEES Fromm, Jake BUF QB

5.1HUSKY HOWLERS Warren, Michael PHI RB

5.11PHANTOM BEES Lewerke, Brian NEP QB

5.12MAVERICK FFC Hightower, John PHI WR

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5 hours ago, az_prof said:

2008 and 2017 were exceptional with 10 and 9 guys who arguably produced at least RB2 seasons at some point in careers.  Most years seem to have 4-5.  

2017 only had 4 taken on the first day but all four produced.  Three of the four 3rd picks produced. A 4th, 5th and 7th all went on to start for their teams at some point.

Odds are about 10% that 2020 has 8-10 who will produce like that. I would guess that it will be more like five.

How many people want those 2018 RB's just 2 years later ?

Barkley and Chubb check

Guice ?

Michel, Penny, Jones, Freeman, Kerryon, Ballage, ect no one wants these guys now.

Ironically one of the best to come from here was a late/undrafted guy in most rookie drafts Lindsay who was super the first 2 years but now gets crushed by Gordon signing.

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Surprised Coulter hasn’t been getting drafted in a lot of these.  

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11 hours ago, TheBottomLine said:

Surprised Coulter hasn’t been getting drafted in a lot of these.  

I took him with pick #89 of an IDP draft. He's my top flier once Tyler Johnson and Cephus go. He went undrafted in some of my others - if he's still out there when I start to get IR eligible's in Aug/Sep I'll add him there too.

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8 minutes ago, Spike said:

I have the 1 & 4. If it goes JT/CEH/JKD I have a real decision to make. I need all the RB help I can get but am not crazy about Akers or Swift. But do I submit to my man-crush and take Lamb at 4 in a standard league? I dunno.

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3 minutes ago, Andy Dufresne said:

I have the 1 & 4. If it goes JT/CEH/JKD I have a real decision to make. I need all the RB help I can get but am not crazy about Akers or Swift. But do I submit to my man-crush and take Lamb at 4 in a standard league? I dunno.

If nothing else, you could check your league mates at 1.05/1.06/1.07 and see if you could drop down and recoup something else of value. 

If you have to pick RB at 1.04, Patricia might not be long for Detroit so Swift might work out. 

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2 minutes ago, Spike said:

If nothing else, you could check your league mates at 1.05/1.06/1.07 and see if you could drop down and recoup something else of value. 

If you have to pick RB at 1.04, Patricia might not be long for Detroit so Swift might work out. 

I've tried offer upon offer. My league mates are risk averse and hold on to their picks with a death grip.

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31 minutes ago, Andy Dufresne said:

I have the 1 & 4. If it goes JT/CEH/JKD I have a real decision to make. I need all the RB help I can get but am not crazy about Akers or Swift. But do I submit to my man-crush and take Lamb at 4 in a standard league? I dunno.

You take the BPA on your board. 

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2 minutes ago, Milkman said:

You take the BPA on your board. 

I get that. But "best" changes due to scoring system. It just does.

OTOH, it would just be more fun having Lamb.

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1 hour ago, Andy Dufresne said:

I have the 1 & 4. If it goes JT/CEH/JKD I have a real decision to make. I need all the RB help I can get but am not crazy about Akers or Swift. But do I submit to my man-crush and take Lamb at 4 in a standard league? I dunno.

Yep, this is where I was all last week. Dr. Dan as well. I lost track of which way he went, but I ended up trading 2.03 (Gronk) to move back to 2.10 (Edwards) and move up from 1.04 to 1.03 to ensure I'd get Dobbins.

My backup plan was to trade back to 1.07 or 1.08 (and had deals lined up for either) and draft Jefferson. But as it worked out Jefferson fell to my 1.12 anyway.

Also, the guy that had 1.03 was being cagey about who he would take, but after I made the deal and took Dobbins, he ended up taking Akers over Swift, so I am pretty sure I would have missed out on Dobbins if I had stayed put, *and* the possibility exists the my tradeback options would have fizzled once Dobbins was selected. 

TLDR version is I would try hard to move up that one or two spots if you could, but if you wanna move back and stack receivers the option is probably there. The idea of making a pick at 1.04 seemed like lost value to me, unless you really believe in Jeudy or Lamb.

ETA mine was FFPC so PPR yours is standard, also I see you mentioned your leaguemates aren't biting on trading picks, so I think since you said you really like Lamb that is probably your best play if you can't swing a deal.

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Posted (edited)

12 Team Superflex .5 PPR

https://sleeper.app/draft/nfl/515583829273763841

 

My picks 

1.02 - Clyde Edwards-Helaire

1.06 - J.K. Dobbins

1.07 - CeeDee Lamb

1.11 - Justin Herbert

2.01 - Henry Ruggs III

2.11 - Laviska Shenault JR.

3.02 - Antonio Gibson

3.10 - Cole Kmet

4.05 - Jacob Eason

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On 5/4/2020 at 10:14 AM, ffmail4me said:

I guess so because people are reaching on Gibson WAY too early 

I love Gibson.  He has exceptional speed and elusiveness, great hands, and the size of a three down back. I've heard people compare him to Tarik Cohen, which is not all wrong, except Gibson weights 220 and Cohen 178.  And the situation isn't bad because ADP is 35 and Guice has yet to play more than a few games. 

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22 minutes ago, az_prof said:

I love Gibson.  He has exceptional speed and elusiveness, great hands, and the size of a three down back. I've heard people compare him to Tarik Cohen, which is not all wrong, except Gibson weights 220 and Cohen 178.  And the situation isn't bad because ADP is 35 and Guice has yet to play more than a few games. 

He has ok hands. He barely played RB in college so he has a ton to learn. I can understand getting excited about his size/speed combination but if I had to bet I'd def bet against him being much in the NFL. 

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On 5/5/2020 at 3:56 PM, Dez said:

How many people want those 2018 RB's just 2 years later ?

Barkley and Chubb check

Guice ?

Michel, Penny, Jones, Freeman, Kerryon, Ballage, ect no one wants these guys now.

Ironically one of the best to come from here was a late/undrafted guy in most rookie drafts Lindsay who was super the first 2 years but now gets crushed by Gordon signing.

I was talking about 2017:

Fournett, CMC, first round

Dalvin Cook, Joe Mixon, second round

Conner, Hunt, and Kamara, third round

Tarik Cohen, fourth round

Marlan Mack, fourth

Aaron Jones, fifth

Chris Carson, 7th

 

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6 minutes ago, az_prof said:

I was talking about 2017:

Fournett, CMC, first round

Dalvin Cook, Joe Mixon, second round

Conner, Hunt, and Kamara, third round

Tarik Cohen, fourth round

Marlan Mack, fourth

Aaron Jones, fifth

Chris Carson, 7th

 

Incredible...

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Why everyone seems to be underestimating Henry Ruggs?  Maybe I'm in minority but I see a talent WR with potential of 100+ targets.  True, Derek Carr doesn't have a cannon for arm but Ruggs is superb at YAC. 

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1 hour ago, Aznflyer14 said:

Why everyone seems to be underestimating Henry Ruggs?  Maybe I'm in minority but I see a talent WR with potential of 100+ targets.  True, Derek Carr doesn't have a cannon for arm but Ruggs is superb at YAC. 

Who knows what will happen but speaking for myself:

a. Carr is a short thrower not a strong arm deep thrower

b. Ruggs appears to mostly run deep routes

c. It would appear that Ruggs will be more of a hit and miss deep hit guy

 

So unless Ruggs tree route is more developed than apears from college or unless Carr is able to be more effective going deep, it would seem that Ruggs may not be in the best position.  Put him on Pittsburg with Roethlisberger or Houston or GB and he would be much more highly regarded.

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On 5/3/2020 at 9:45 PM, JohnnyU said:

12 Team PPR Build a Champion 2 Devy / Rookie Draft

Devy or Rookie players already on rosters before the draft started - Chubba Hubbard, John Emery, Trey Sanders, Trey Sermon,  Cam Akers, Rondale Moore, Demetris Robertson,  CeeDee Lamb, Tee Higgins, Donovan Peoples-Jones, Trevor Lawrence, Eno Benjamin, Justyn Ross,  Tyler Johnson, Amon-Ra St. Brown, Travis Etienne, Zamir White, DeAndre Swift, J K Dobbins, Jonathan Taylor, Najee Harris, A J Dillon, Laviska Shenaut, Henry Ruggs, Bryan Edwards, Jerry Jeudy

Can draft up to 15 devys for the entire league or draft rookies.

 

1.01 Edwards-Helaire, Clyde KCC RB

1.02 Ja'marr Chase, WR LSU - DEVY

1.03 Rashod Batemon WR Minnesota Golden Golphers.  - DEVY

1.04 Reagor, Jalen PHI WR

1.05 Jefferson, Justin MIN WR

1.06 George Pickens WR Georgia - DEVY

1.07Jaylen Waddle, WR (Alabama) - DEVY

1.08 Vaughn, Ke'Shawn TBB RB

1.09 Devonta Smith WR Alabama - DEVY

1.10 Mims, Denzel NYJ WR

1.11 Michael Pittman ND WR

1.12 Julian fleming, wr, Ohio state - DEVY

2.01 Aiyuk, Brandon SFO WR

2.02 - Max Borghi, RB Washington State - DEVY

2.03 - Breece Hall RB Iowa St - DEVY

2.04 - Justin Fields QB Ohio St - DEVY

2.05 - Tamorrian Terry WR FSU - DEVY

2.06 - Seth Williams Auburn WR - DEVY

2.07 - Master Teague, RB Ohio State - DEVY

2.08 - Antonio Gibson RB Wash

2.09 - Garrett Wilson WR Ohio St. - DEVY

2.10 - Burrow, Joe CIN QB

2.11 - Kyle Pitts TE Florida - DEVY

2.12 - Kylin Hill, RB Mississippi State - DEVY

3.01 - Gronkowski, Rob TBB TE

3.02 - Tagovailoa, Tua MIA QB

3.03 - Moss, Zack BUF RB

3.04 - Kelley, Joshua LAC RB

3.05 - Claypool, Chase PIT WR

3.06 - Herbert, Justin LAC QB

3.07 - McFarland, Anthony PIT RB

3.08 - Evans, Darrynton TEN RB

3.09 - Duvernay, Devin BAL WR

3.10 - Perine, Lamical NYJ RB

3.11 - Tautman, Adam NOS TE

3.12 - Hamler, KJ DEN WR

4.01 - Bowden, Lynn LVR RB

4.02 - Kmet, Cole CHI TE

4.03 - Dallas, DeeJay SEA RB

4.04 - Moss, Thaddeus WAS TE

4.05 - Asiasi, Devin NEP TE

4.06 - Jefferson, Van LAR WR 

4.07 - Gandy-Golden, Antonio WAS WR (R)

4.08 - Love, Jordan GBP QB (R)

4.09 - Burton, Trey IND TE (Q)

4.10 - Stidham, Jarrett NEP QB

4.11 - Hurts, Jalen PHI QB (R)

4.12 - Cephus, Quintez DET WR (R)

finished

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On 5/6/2020 at 12:20 PM, Andy Dufresne said:

I get that. But "best" changes due to scoring system. It just does.

OTOH, it would just be more fun having Lamb.

This is not a terrible tiebreaker criterion if it's otherwise close.

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12 hours ago, az_prof said:

Who knows what will happen but speaking for myself:

a. Carr is a short thrower not a strong arm deep thrower

b. Ruggs appears to mostly run deep routes

c. It would appear that Ruggs will be more of a hit and miss deep hit guy

 

So unless Ruggs tree route is more developed than apears from college or unless Carr is able to be more effective going deep, it would seem that Ruggs may not be in the best position.  Put him on Pittsburg with Roethlisberger or Houston or GB and he would be much more highly regarded.

I might be wrong, but I thought Ruggs actually did most of his work on underneath stuff? I'll have to look around for where I saw it, but I swear I read someone knocking him because (while he has a ton of speed) he didn't have all that many long TDs etc. 

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16 hours ago, mcintyre1 said:

I might be wrong, but I thought Ruggs actually did most of his work on underneath stuff? I'll have to look around for where I saw it, but I swear I read someone knocking him because (while he has a ton of speed) he didn't have all that many long TDs etc. 

Lots of crossers, screens, and sideline comebacks. 

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4 hours ago, Dr. BD said:

shouldn't be hard to check. should probably take someone 20 minutes to watch all 35 of his catches...

lol, that's certainly true. He's definitely a boom/bust pick more than the average player.

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On 5/7/2020 at 12:32 AM, az_prof said:

Who knows what will happen but speaking for myself:

a. Carr is a short thrower not a strong arm deep thrower

b. Ruggs appears to mostly run deep routes

c. It would appear that Ruggs will be more of a hit and miss deep hit guy

 

So unless Ruggs tree route is more developed than apears from college or unless Carr is able to be more effective going deep, it would seem that Ruggs may not be in the best position.  Put him on Pittsburg with Roethlisberger or Houston or GB and he would be much more highly regarded.

6 hours ago, mcintyre1 said:
10 hours ago, Dr. BD said:

shouldn't be hard to check. should probably take someone 20 minutes to watch all 35 of his catches...

lol, that's certainly true. He's definitely a boom/bust pick more than the average player.

I actually found this youtube video (complete with grainy quality and repeating generic rock music loop) that's about 9 minutes of touches/targets from 2019. I counted 6 targets past ~15 yards, everything else was hooks/crosses/outs etc no more than about 15 yards out with a lot of shorter stuff like bubble screens, slants, etc. For the limited sample size we got, I'd say he did do most of his work from close in rather than running go routes or deep posts. But I'm certainly no professional.

 

 

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The PFF draft guide breaks Ruggs's targets down into

20+ yards downfield: 4 catches on 11 targets for 169 yards
10-19 yards downfield: 14 catches on 18 targets
0-9 yards downfield: 10 catches on 14 targets
Screens: 9 catches

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24 minutes ago, Andy Dufresne said:

Hate to be That Guy but...There is a dedicated Ruggs thread.

Yeah my bad -- mea culpa, here's a couple finished-ish drafts I didn't post yet:

1QB 2RB 3WR 1TE 1FLEX PPR


https://www67.myfantasyleague.com/2020/options?L=26607&O=17

https://www55.myfantasyleague.com/2020/options?L=46557&O=17

The top 8 picks were the same:

  1. CEH
  2. Taylor
  3. Dobbins
  4. Swift
  5. Lamb
  6. Jeudy
  7. Akers
  8. Justin Jefferson
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Standard IDP Zealots - I'm the Vikings

QB TD passes 4 points each, QB first downs 0.2 points each, all other positions first downs 0.5 points each.

LBs  1.5 points per tackle and 0.75 points per assist. All positions other than DBs and LBs to 2 points per tackle and 1 point per assist.

https://www61.myfantasyleague.com/2020/options?L=40227&O=17

Fool already messed things up taking Burrow at 3.

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7 minutes ago, Dr. BD said:

you're killin' it

Thanks. Adding my acquisition of Mike Evans to the mix and I feel good about it. This set of rookies isn't nearly as exciting in non-ppr leagues.

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Here's our Zealots draft. I'm the New York Jets.

https://www68.myfantasyleague.com/2020/options?L=20392&O=17

1.06 Ruggs III - WR
2.01 Chase Young - DE
2.04 Denzel Mims - WR
2.07 Bryan Edwards - WR
3.01 A.J. Dillon - RB
3.06 Antonio Gandy-Golden - WR
4.01 Willie Gay - LB
4.07 Tyler Johnson - WR
5.06 Malik Harrison - LB
5.08 Quintez Cephus - WR
6.05 Davion Taylor - LB
6.10 Akeem Davis-Gaither - LB

I was short on linebackers to say the least, and this draft, according to Jene Bramel and others, was full of them to take, so I did. I tried to trade down from 1.06 again from 1.01 but got no takers. Got six WRs in a WR heavy class. Who knows who will make it? That's the dart throw. Also gave up a future 4th for the extra 4th this time and moved down in the 5th and 6th to pick up extras (didn't matter to me). Will probably get that 4th back this year when picks aren't as valued. I have an extra first in my pocket next year, so there's that, too.

eta* Really disappointed I couldn't score Pittman with 2.01. Some guy traded a future first and 2.09 to get that position to draft him. I was in no position to give up picks like that. 

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3 hours ago, JohnnyU said:

Why does a team get an extra first round pick at 1.13 ?

I always wondered why each of the 5 hyper/actives all start on different time frames some of them weeks apart.  They are all part of hyperactive family but have nothing to do with each other is what I came up with.

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20 minutes ago, Dez said:

Why does a team get an extra first round pick at 1.13 ?

 

"The Toilet Bowl champion will receive a compensatory pick between rounds one and two."

ETA:  Also, for other leagues it's a good way to attract new owners to take over a crappy team, adding in the 2.13, 3.13, and 4.13.

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34 minutes ago, JohnnyU said:

"The Toilet Bowl champion will receive a compensatory pick between rounds one and two."

ETA:  Also, for other leagues it's a good way to attract new owners to take over a crappy team, adding in the 2.13, 3.13, and 4.13.

Several of my leagues do this as well, I like it a lot. Keeps people who missed the playoffs engaged through the end of the season.

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2 hours ago, JohnnyU said:

"The Toilet Bowl champion will receive a compensatory pick between rounds one and two."

ETA:  Also, for other leagues it's a good way to attract new owners to take over a crappy team, adding in the 2.13, 3.13, and 4.13.

Seems like too much to give especially since the teams that barely miss the playoffs have a lot better chance to end up then with the 1.06 or 1.05 will likely end up with 1.13 as well.

 

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